G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 There really are some remarkable stats (and funny comments) here Hey, it's a slow news MONTH http://oldtimefamilybaseball.com/post/73935637744/25-greatest-barry-bonds-facts
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 My favorite is 49.1% of his hits were extra base Incredible. He wasn't exactly a singles hitter.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 I like this one: 9. Intentional walk leaders, 2001-2004: 1. Barry Bonds: 284 2. St. Louis Cardinals: 260 3. Montreal Expos: 252 4. Philadelphia Phillies: 237 5. Arizona Diamondbacks: 232 Unlike Fact #19, this is the top of the leaderboard. Sure, Bonds drew more intentional walks over a span 14 years than eight different teams. But from 2001-2004, Bonds drew more walks than EVERY TEAM.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Or 4. Barry Bonds is the only member of the 500 home runs/500 steals club. He’s also the only member of the 400 home runs/400 steals club.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Collusion 101. Coming off a 2007 season of wRC+ 146 (456 OBP) Not a single AL team wanted to sign him as a DH? lol Selig really hates those PED's guys.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 My favorite is 49.1% of his hits were extra base JPA was at almost 45% ... of course Bonds in 2004 had more than 3 times as many walks that year as JPA has had in his entire career.
Anemic0ffense Verified Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah. Roids or no roids, his stats were still INSANE.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah. Roids or no roids, his stats were still INSANE. add into the mix that most of the pitchers he faced during his career were juiced as well. pete rose barry bonds HOF is a joke if those 2 guys dont get put into the front room. baseball has been run by self righteous *******s for too long. too bad things probably wont change in our lifetimes. question is if future generations will right the wrongs on the last ones.
Brenner Verified Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Likely a HoFer without the juice, averaged 7 war per year for his first 7 years in Pitt. The juice just pushed his numbers into legendary territory.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Likely a HoFer without the juice, averaged 7 war per year for his first 7 years in Pitt. The juice just pushed his numbers into legendary territory. the holier than though butt heads who vote need to see a proctologist.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Just starting to work on framing his jersey up.
havok24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 add into the mix that most of the pitchers he faced during his career were juiced as well. pete rose barry bonds HOF is a joke if those 2 guys dont get put into the front room. baseball has been run by self righteous *******s for too long. too bad things probably wont change in our lifetimes. question is if future generations will right the wrongs on the last ones. Bonds is a top 2 player in baseball history. The thought of Bonds not being in the HOF is beyond a joke.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Bonds' plate discipline stats are ridiculous. In 2004, a 8.3 O-Swing% and 4.0 SwStr%. This is what made him such a great hitter: an insane natural ability to discern balls from strikes and to make contact. And he had prodigious natural power, 40+ SB speed in his early years and was a vacuum on D. The best player in baseball over a 25 year period.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Lmao, listen to that crowd in NY in the video. Boy, they sure loved their steroid fueled home runs back then! Seems like being anti-steroid zealots wasn't the cool thing to be at the time.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Bonds shouldn't be denied in the HOF because of roids. He was still an amazing player without them. If a ridiculous number of guys were juicing, how come none of them came close to touching Bonds? That's what I want to know. They didn't make Bonds what he was, he's as close to a one man team that we are ever going to see.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Likely a HoFer without the juice, averaged 7 war per year for his first 7 years in Pitt. The juice just pushed his numbers into legendary territory. I dunno, I'm sure he'd be legendary regardless. Maybe legendary-er.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Sorry for multiple posts, but Barry Bonds escapes election while THIS GUY: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wanerll01.shtml is enshrined. Pretty sure Bonds had 2 seasons where they combined eclipsed Waner's entire career.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Its really fun looking back at Bond's stats. I do it often and wish I could have watched him play during his prime. Crazy in just about every facet of the game. Juice can't make you understand the zone so completely.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Collusion 101. Coming off a 2007 season of wRC+ 146 (456 OBP) Not a single AL team wanted to sign him as a DH? lol Selig really hates those PED's guys. He had an OBP of .480 that year, not .456! He probably could've had one of the best offensive seasons of alltime in 2008 if he was a fulltime DH in the AL.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 He had an OBP of .480 that year, not .456! He probably could've had one of the best offensive seasons of alltime in 2008 if he was a fulltime DH in the AL. Woops, i was looking at 2006. Pretty ridiculous that someone like Billy Beane who gets boners for OBP guys didn't give him a look on a 1 year deal.
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 He certainly belongs in the CHEATERS HOF!
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Woops, i was looking at 2006. Pretty ridiculous that someone like Billy Beane who gets boners for OBP guys didn't give him a look on a 1 year deal. It's a good question. There were reports on interest there as it seemed like a good fit in many ways. Who know if it was collusion on the part of mlb or a case where Oak offered a deal BB snorted at. Like say $5m/1 year. Neither would surprise me.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 He certainly belongs in the CHEATERS HOF! You should get a gold star from your mommy for this post. Well done
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Collusion 101. Coming off a 2007 season of wRC+ 146 (456 OBP) Not a single AL team wanted to sign him as a DH? lol Selig really hates those PED's guys. Should have been a Blue Jay. Team would have made the playoffs.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Its really fun looking back at Bond's stats. I do it often and wish I could have watched him play during his prime. Crazy in just about every facet of the game. Juice can't make you understand the zone so completely. Even if you watched him, you still can't wrap your head around it. That whole period in baseball seems like a weird dream. It doesn't seem like it actually happened. Back then new offensive standards seemed to constantly be set. You don't realize your seeing baseball's offensive peak until there's a downturn in offense and you look back and you're like holy s***! Did I actually witness that?
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I don't understand the people who are in awe and admiring records set by players using performance-enhancing drugs. I only see them as cheating the system. I respect the records that were set without the use of them. Seems like I am of the exception on this forum. That's just the way I feel.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Even if you watched him, you still can't wrap your head around it. That whole period in baseball seems like a weird dream. It doesn't seem like it actually happened. Back then new offensive standards seemed to constantly be set. You don't realize your seeing baseball's offensive peak until there's a downturn in offense and you look back and you're like holy s***! Did I actually witness that? Yep. Barry's insane years and the Sosa/McGuire home run battles may well never be duplicated. It was surreal. And fun to watch, I'll admit.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 I don't understand the people who are in awe and admiring records set by players using performance-enhancing drugs. I only see them as cheating the system. I respect the records that were set without the use of them. Seems like I am of the exception on this forum. That's just the way I feel. All of his competitors were using PED's too. And he was STILL that much better than everybody else. That's why.
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