Reports on Top 10 Blue Jays Prospects for 2014 (Baseball Prospectus)

[TwistedLogic]

Posting this again as reference for the ongoing prospect polls, since it was buried in a dead thread. I only formatted the post, full credits go to Dr. Dinger for obtaining the information and TheHurl for originally posting it. Written by Jason Parks of Baseball Prospectus.

 

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The Top 10

1|Marcus Stroman

2|Aaron Sanchez

3|Alberto Tirado

4|Daniel Norris

5|Sean Nolin

6|AJ Jimenez

7|Franklin Barreto

8|DJ Davis

9|Chase DeJong

10|Jairo Labourt

 

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(1) Marcus Stroman (RHP)

 

DOB: 05/01/1991

Height/Weight: 5’9” 185 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: 1st round, 2012 draft, Duke University (Durham, NC)

Previous Ranking: #8 (Org)

 

2013 Stats: 3.30 ERA (111.2 IP, 99 H, 129 K, 27 BB) at Double-A New Hampshire

The Tools: 7 FB; 7 CT; 7 potential SL; 6 potential CH

 

What Happened in 2013: Stroman made 20 starts at the Double-A level, showing bat-missing ability and sharp command, doing everything in his power to convince the doubters that he can be a starting pitcher.

 

Strengths: Strong and athletic; generates power in his delivery with lower half; impressive arm strength; fastball works low/mid-90s; can sit mid-90s in bursts; slider is true wipeout pitch; easy 7 grade; mid-80s with sharp tilt; changeup flashes plus; projects to play at that grade; excellent action and deception from fastball; shows plus-plus cutter in the 91-93 range; nasty and late glove-side slice; plus command profile; big-time competitor.

 

Weaknesses: Short; has to work down to create plane; fastball can arrive flat/lack movement; if he works up, becomes hittable; changeup can get too firm/overthrown.

 

Overall Future Potential: High 6; no. 2 starter

 

Realistic Role: 6; elite late-innings reliever (closer)

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; ready for major leagues

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Stroman is that perfect combination of high fantasy potential in the rotation and a high fantasy floor in the bullpen. As a starter, he can rack up the strikeouts with multiple pitches and has the control/command to have a very strong WHIP—though his ERA may lag behind due to potential troubles with the long ball. As a reliever, he could be one of the top fantasy closers in baseball, but like any relief prospect, just because he’s awesome doesn't mean he’ll get saves when you want him to.

 

The Year Ahead: Stroman might be even shorter than his listed height (5’9’’), and normally I would be the first person to put him into the reliever box—especially given the fact that he could be an elite closer in that role. But I think Stroman is a starter all the way, with more than enough strength and athleticism for the workload and a deep arsenal that he can command. He’s atypical and unorthodox, but Stroman is going to be an impact starter at the major-league level. The stuff is well above average, the delivery and arm work very well and should be able to handle a starter’s workload, and the aggressiveness and poise fit the mold of a frontline starter just as much as it does a late-innings arm. If you focus too much on the height you are going to miss the realities of the overall profile. This is a starting pitcher.

 

Major league ETA: 2014

 

 

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(2) Aaron Sanchez (RHP)

 

DOB: 07/01/1992

Height/Weight: 6’4” 190 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: 1st round, 2010 draft, Barstow HS (Barstow, CA)

Previous Ranking: #3 (Org), #32 (Top 101)

 

2013 Stats: 3.34 ERA (86.1 IP, 63 H, 75 K, 40 BB) at High-A Dunedin

The Tools: 7 FB; 6+ potential CB; 6 potential CH

 

What Happened in 2013: Top-shelf stuff, but a frustrating year that included some minor injury setbacks and on-the-field performances that failed to match the hype.

 

Strengths: Elite arm action; ball explodes out of his; fastball routinely works in the mid-90s; heavy life; hard curveball in the low 80s shows plus potential; changeup flashes plus; late arm-side action; frontline stuff.

 

Weaknesses: Below-average command; can get stiff and upright in the delivery; can struggle to stay over the ball; loses movement and flattens out; curveball can lack snap/get slurvy; changeup too firm; some sources question the passivity in his approach; pitchability needs work.

 

Overall Future Potential: 7; no. 2 starter

 

Realistic Role: 6; no. 3 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; yet to pitch at Double-A level; some minor injury concerns.

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Sanchez has the higher fantasy upside as a starting pitcher, but he’s unlikely to take enough of a step forward with his control to be a strong contributor in WHIP—making him likely a three-category guy at peak. His ability to keep the ball on the ground (58 percent groundball rate during the past two seasons) may help neutralize some of the Rogers Centre’s home run-inducing tendencies.

 

The Year Ahead: Sanchez has some of the best arm action you will see, a lightning fast arm that allows the ball to just explode out of his hand. His mechanics can get out of whack, and he struggles to stay over the ball and finish his pitches. This causes his fastball to elevate and lose life, and his power curveball to get too slurvy and lose its bite. If you are optimistic about his command and refinement of the secondary stuff, Sanchez is a legit frontline no. 2 starter, but there is still a sizeable gap between the present and future.

 

Major league ETA: 2015

 

 

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(3) Alberto Tirado (RHP)

 

DOB: 12/10/1994

Height/Weight: 6’1” 177 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: International free agent, 2011, Dominican Republic

Previous Ranking: #10 (Org)

 

2013 Stats: 1.68 ERA (48.1 IP, 41 H, 44 K, 20 BB) at rookie level Bluefield

The Tools: 7 potential FB; 6+ potential CH; 6 potential SL

 

What Happened in 2013: Another start in extended spring training and another pass through the Appalachian League, Tirado proved to be ready for a bigger challenge in his 48 innings of short-season work.

 

Strengths: Loose, easy arm; good release; fastball is plus offering; works 91-95; good arm-side life; changeup is advanced for age; good fastball disguise and late action; slider also looks like future plus offering; 82-84 with sharp tilt; more to project in the body.

 

Weaknesses: Inconsistent mechanics; arm is whippy and release points vary; command is below average (present); slider is behind changeup; can saucer the pitch; body is underdeveloped/immature; needs to add strength.

 

Overall Future Potential: High 6; no. 2 starter

 

Realistic Role: 5; no. 3/4 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; short-season resume

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: There may not be a more interesting pitching prospect for fantasy purposes who hasn't yet reached full-season ball than Tirado. He could be a lot of things at this point, but if you judge it off his raw stuff, the fantasy potential is there across the board. If you can get in on the ground floor now, he’s a candidate to see a huge spike in dynasty league value during the 2014 season.

 

The Year Ahead: Tirado is a beast in the making, with three pitches that could end as plus offerings. The delivery is inconsistent at present, and the body needs to add strength to hold stuff and log innings. Despite the iffy command at present, Tirado shows pitchability and aptitude, and with a slow and steady approach, has a good chance to develop into a top tier prospect in the coming years. His stock is going to soar when he shoves in full-season ball, and when the command starts to refine, look out. This is an impact prospect that could develop into an impact major-league starter.

 

Major league ETA: 2017

 

 

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(4) Daniel Norris (LHP)

 

DOB: 04/25/1993

Height/Weight: 6’2” 180 lbs

Bats/Throws: L/L

Acquired: 2nd round, 2011 draft, Science Hill HS (Johnson City, TN)

Previous Ranking: #7 (Org)

 

2013 Stats: 0.00 ERA (5 IP, 1 H, 1 K, 2 BB) at High-A Dunedin, 4.20 ERA (85.2 IP, 84 H, 99 K, 44 BB) at Low-A Lansing

The Tools: 6 FB; 6 potential SL; 5+ potential CH

 

What Happened in 2013: In his full-season debut, Norris showed the stuff that made him a second round pick back in 2011; a four-pitch mix that can miss bats and force weak contact.

 

Strengths: Athletic; excellent arm strength; fastball works 92-95; can touch 97; some arm-side wiggle; slider is bat-missing pitch; 82-84 and sharp; turns over a promising changeup; good velocity separation and some late action; shows a mid-70s curve that he can locate.

 

Weaknesses: Command is below average; can lose his delivery; changeup still a work in progress; curveball is more show-me than showcase.

 

Overall Future Potential: 6; no. 3 starter

 

Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; only one start above the Low-A level; minor injury concerns.

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: After being dropped in many leagues after his brutal 2012 season, Norris showed again this year why he’s worth investing in. He may lack the fantasy upside of a Stroman or Sanchez, but he’s capable of racking up strikeouts at any level. So check and see if he’s available in your league prior to the start of your draft—you may be surprised.

 

The Year Ahead: While its foolish to suggest a 20-year-old pitcher is a safe bet to develop, Norris has the type of arsenal, body, and approach to minimize some of the risk normally associated with the developmental process. He’s not a finished product—the command needs a full-grade jump and the secondary stuff needs more consistency—but the profile is advanced and he could move fast in 2014 if it continues to click. I think he reaches Double-A at some point in 2014, and could set himself up for a late-season debut in 2015, assuming the command takes a step forward.

 

Major league ETA: Late 2015

 

 

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(5) Sean Nolin (LHP)

 

DOB: 12/26/1989

Height/Weight: 6’5” 235 lbs

Bats/Throws: L/L

Acquired: 6th round, 2010 draft, San Jacinto Junior College (Pasadena, TX)

Previous Ranking: #4 (Org), #97 (Top 101)

 

2013 Stats:

The Tools: 5 FB; 6 CH; 5 SL; 5 CB

 

What Happened in 2013: Nolin was solid across two minor-league stops, showing good control and strikeout ability, and even made a not-so-memorable appearance at the major-league level.

 

Strengths: Good size/strength; clean delivery; creates steep plane to the plate; fastball is setup pitch; can work all quadrants; some arm-side life; changeup plays well off fastball; good deception and action in the low 80s; shows both average slider and curveball; mixes well; changes sight lines and planes; good command profile.

 

Weaknesses: Fastball is pedestrian and average at best, often working 89-90 range; command has to be sharp; has to keep hitters off-balance; breaking balls lack plus projections; small margin of error.

 

Overall Future Potential: High 5; no. 3/4 starter

 

Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: Low risk; achieved major-league level

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Even if Nolin hits his ceiling, he will not be in a perfect environment for his skill set at the major-league level in Toronto. For a left-hander who is very fly-ball heavy, Rogers Centre (and most other AL East parks) may diminish some of his fantasy numbers—leaving him looking better in the context of neutralized stats. He can be a bulk contributor in wins and strikeouts, while not destroying your ratios.

 

The Year Ahead: Nolin is a very low risk major-league starter, with average stuff but good pitchability and command profile. He can move the ball around, changing sight lines and planes by backing up his fastball with a good changeup with arm-side fade, a loopier curveball in the low-mid-70s, and a hard slider in the mid-80s. He missed bats in the minors but might be more of a weak contact arm at the highest level, keeping hitters off balance and behind in counts. I think he develops into a solid number four starter with a chance for a little more if the fastball plays up.

 

Major league ETA: Debuted in 2013

 

 

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(6) A.J. Jimenez ©

 

DOB: 05/01/1990

Height/Weight: 6’0” 210 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: 9th round, 2008 draft, Academia Discipulos de Cristo (Bayamon, PR)

Previous Ranking: NR

 

2013 Stats: .233/.258/.267 at Triple-A Buffalo (8 games), .276/.327/.394 at Double-A New Hampshire (50 games), .429/.448/.643 at High-A Dunedin (9 games)

The Tools: 6 arm; 6 potential glove; 5 raw power

 

What Happened in 2013: In his return to action after Tommy John surgery, Jimenez still managed to throw out close to 50 percent of would-be basestealers in Double-A.

 

Strengths: Excellent catch-and-throw skills; arm is plus; footwork is excellent; slow runner but quick feet; good receiver; intangibles for position; good swing at the plate; has some pop; average raw power.

 

Weaknesses: Assorted injuries throughout his career; defense-first catcher; hit tool likely to play below average; game power likely to play below average; well below-average run.

 

Overall Future Potential: 5; major-league regular

 

Realistic Role: High 4; backup catcher; below-average major leaguer

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: Moderate risk; numerous injuries on resume; TJ surgery in 2012.

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: The least interesting player on this list for fantasy purposes, Jimenez shows up here mostly due to his defensive prowess. He’s really only worth picking up on spec if you’re in a simulation league.

 

The Year Ahead: Jimenez is a very good catcher, a weapon in the running game and with the pitchers. The bat can show some promise, and I actually like his swing; good path to the ball and shows bat speed. I don’t see an impact bat, but with his defensive skill set, a down-the-lineup stick would still give him value as a starter. If he can actually stay on the field for a full season, Jimenez might take a step forward at the plate and emerge as a challenger to Navarro in 2015 or a good trade chip if he forces the issue sooner.

 

Major league ETA: 2014

 

 

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(7) Franklin Barreto (SS)

 

DOB: 02/27/1996

Height/Weight: 5’9” 174 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: International free agent, 2012, Venezuela

Previous Ranking: On The Rise

 

2013 Stats: .204/.259/.333 at rookie level Bluefield (15 games), .299/.368/.529 at complex level GCL (44 games)

The Tools: 5 potential hit; 5 potential power; 6 arm; 6 run

 

What Happened in 2013: In his professional debut, the seven-figure Latin American signing was dynamic in the Gulf Coast League and finished the season as a 17-year-old in the Appalachian League.

 

Strengths: Plus athlete; excellent hand-eye coordination; barrels the ball at the plate; hands are extremely impressive; good strength for present body; line drive stroke; hit tool could end up being plus; power could play to average; arm is plus; run is plus; impact potential talent.

 

Weaknesses: Still raw in all aspects on the game; reactive see-ball/hit-ball approach; will chase and lose his setup; arm is strong but wild; actions aren't smooth at short; glove unlikely to stick at short.

 

Overall Future Potential: High 6; first-division/all-star

 

Realistic Role: High 4; utility player/below-average regular

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; short-season resume

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: He’s forever away, but Barreto has the raw ingredients to be a strong fantasy middle infielder (assuming he stays there). In what categories that future upside materializes is yet to be determined, but he makes for an interesting flier regardless.

 

The Year Ahead: Barreto showed off his tools —especially his ability to put his bat on the ball—in his debut, and emerged as a legit professional y and not just an expensive amateur signing. Huge gap between present and future, and you will be hard pressed to find a source that likes his glove enough to project him at the position to the highest level. But he has more than enough arm for third and more than enough athleticism for the outfield, so the Jays have options should a move be required in the coming years. A return trip to the Appalachian League will be in order for Barreto, and given his precocious talent, this is must-see scouting in 2014.

 

Major league ETA: 2018

 

 

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(8) D.J. Davis (CF)

 

DOB: 07/25/1994

Height/Weight: 6’1” 180 lbs

Bats/Throws: L/R

Acquired: 1st round, 2012 draft, Stone County HS (Wiggins, MS)

Previous Ranking: #5 (Org)

 

2013 Stats: .240/.323/.418 at rookie level Bluefield (58 games)

The Tools: 8 run; 5 potential hit; 5 potential power; 5 arm; 6+ potential glove

 

What Happened in 2013: In his return trip to Bluefield, Davis had an up and down short-season, flashing the impact tools while wearing the inconsistency of a teenager.

 

Strengths: High-end athlete; can run with anybody; range for days; arm is solid; glove projects to plus; shows bat speed at the plate; can drive the baseball; power could be even better than projection (average).

 

Weaknesses: Still very raw on all sides of the ball; reads/routes need work; big swing-and-miss at the plate; struggles with velocity; struggles against spin; more of an athlete than a skill player at this stage.

 

Overall Future Potential: High 6; first-division/all-star

 

Realistic Role: High 4; bench outfielder/below-average regular

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; short-season resume

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: It’s not exaggeration to say that Davis has the highest fantasy ceiling of anyone in this system. He’s also pretty unlikely to reach it. The speed is tantalizing and unlike many other 80-grade runners, Davis actually has the potential to contribute some in the power categories. This is exactly the type of player who sees a value bump in shallower leagues with farm systems due to his extreme risk/reward.

 

The Year Ahead: Davis has a monster ceiling, a prototypical leadoff type with impact speed, enough thunder in the bat to keep pitchers honest, and a plus profile at a premium up-the-middle position. He has a very long way to go on all sides on the ball, and the raw tools are most certainly raw at this point, especially when it comes to game application/utility. But this is the type of developmental project that can pay huge dividends in a few years, as Davis has all-star level talent and five-tool potential.

 

Major league ETA: Late 2017

 

 

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(9) Chase DeJong (RHP)

 

DOB: 12/29/1993

Height/Weight: 6’4” 185 lbs

Bats/Throws: R/R

Acquired: 2nd round, 2012 draft, Woodrow Wilson HS (Long Beach, CA)

Previous Ranking: On The Rise

 

2013 Stats: 3.05 ERA (56 IP, 58 H, 66 K, 10 BB) at rookie level Bluefield

The Tools: 6 potential FB; 6 potential CB; 5+ potential CH

 

What Happened in 2013: In his professional debut, the former second-round pick made 13 appearances (including 10 starts), missing 66 bats in only 56 innings while walking only 10.

 

Strengths: Very projectable (physically); good pitchability; good arm action; fastball projects to be plus offering; curveball projects to plus; good depth/heavy vertical action; some feel for a changeup; projects to at least average; good command profile.

 

Weaknesses: Fastball is pedestrian at present; works 88-91; can flatten out; curveball can break too early out of the hand; start too high; changeup is below average at present; tendency to overthrow pitch.

 

Overall Future Potential: 6; no. 3 starter

 

Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; short-season resume

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: There’s a lot to like about DeJong, and there’s no shame in ranking behind the arms ahead of him here. Like most everyone else here, he’s a long way off, but he is a starter kit for someone who can have an above-average impact in all four starting pitching categories.

 

The Year Ahead: Several sources waxed poetic about Dejong’s arm action and arsenal projection, suggesting the fastball velocity is going to arrive and take the 19-year-old arm to the next prospect level. He has feel for craft, and the curveball already shows its plus potential. If he can take a step forward in full-season ball, Dejong has a chance to emerge as a top 101 prospect in the game. If the fastball starts to tick up, look out.

 

Major league ETA: 2017

 

 

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(10) Jairo Labourt (LHP)

 

DOB: 03/07/1994

Height/Weight: 6’4” 204 lbs

Bats/Throws: L/L

Acquired: International free agent, 2011, Dominican Republic

Previous Ranking: NR

 

2013 Stats: 1.92 ERA (51.2 IP, 39 H, 45 K, 14 BB) at rookie level Bluefield

The Tools: 6+ potential FB; 6 potential SL; 5 potential CH

 

What Happened in 2013: After 12 complex-level starts in 2012, the 19-year-old climbed a level to the Appalachian League, where the big-bodied Dominican allowed 39 hits in over 51 innings of work.

 

Strengths: Big frame; long legs; arm works well; fastball can sit 89-93; touches a little higher; projects to throw harder; slider has wipeout potential; mid-80s velocity and sharp slice; good pitchability.

 

Weaknesses: Body could be high-maintenance; fastball velocity has yet to regulate in plus range; slider can flatten out; changeup is underdeveloped; more control than command.

 

Overall Future Potential: 6; no. 3 starter

 

Realistic Role: 5; no. 4 starter

 

Risk Factor/Injury History: High risk; short-season resume

 

Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: The short-season levels of the Blue Jays system are like clown cars that fantasy-relevant pitchers keep climbing out of. As a left-hander who will need to develop a pitch to keep righties in check to remain a starter, Labourt is a slightly higher risk to end up in the pen than some of the other names on this list.

 

The Year Ahead: My sources absolutely love this arm, saying he has the potential to have three plus pitches to go along with good feel for craft. With a big, strong body and a clean arm, you can see a workhorse type as a floor, and if you really want to dream, Labourt could find a home in the middle of a major-league rotation (or perhaps higher if you think the fastball really ticks up during the developmental process). The Jays are ridiculously stacked at the short-season levels, and Labourt has the stuff and pitchability to stand out in a crowded prospect field.

 

Major league ETA: Late 2017

 

 

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Notable Omission (RHP Roberto Osuna): A healthy Osuna is a likely top-five player in this system, but thanks to Tommy John surgery, the 18-year-old pitcher is on the shelf for the 2014 season. While it’s quite common for arms to make a full-recovery after such a procedure, the ones that improve their chances are the ones with advanced makeup and work ethic, two things that some sources have questioned about Osuna in the past. I can’t speak to the specifics of such opinion, but I do have my own concerns about his already high-maintenance body, and how a prolonged recovery process could affect his physical form. This could either be viewed as an opportunity for Osuna to take a step forward with his physical work ethic or a substantial roadblock, as his approach could hinder his ability to fully recover.

 

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Prospects on the Rise

 

1. RHP Clinton Hollon: Athletic righty with big arm strength and feel for a deep arsenal, Hollon received several votes of confidence from scouts that encouraged me to include him in the top 10. He needs to stay healthy and stay on the field, but the profile is yet another impact rotation arm with projections in the two/three starter range. The Jays are growing these guys on trees in the lower minors.

 

2. 3B Mitch Nay: A supplemental first-round pick in 2012, Nay has legit above-average projections on the hit/power tools, but several questions about his athleticism and ultimate defensive profile pushed him off the top 10. If you really like the bat, the defensive limitations won’t bother you much, but if he has to eventually move to first base, the bat needs to be a heavy player for him to have value.

 

3. RHP Miguel Castro: Stop me when this gets old: yet another highly projectable arm at the short-season level, Castro looks the part in the uniform and shows off the live arm on the mound, already working in the low 90s and touching 95/96. No doubt scheduled for another short-season assignment in 2014, Castro is going to be a national prospect after more people get to see this kid on the hill. It wouldn't shock me if he’s securely in the top 10 at this time next season.

 

 

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Factors on the Farm (Prospects likely to contribute at the ML level in 2014)

 

1. RHP John Stilson: It’s most likely a 7th /8th inning profile rather than a closer, but former Texas A&M arm can bring the funk in short bursts, routinely working his heater in the 95+ range and mixing in a hard, biting slider and heavy changeup. He’s going to be a very good bullpen arm.

 

2. 3B Andy Burns: Burns turned heads with a strong offensive campaign in the Arizona Fall League, showing good bat-to-ball skills and a mature approach. Unless you really believe in the bat, Burns is probably not going to be a major-league regular, but with some defensive versatility and enough stick to keep pitchers honest, he could find a role as a bench bat or a second-division type if everything comes together at the plate.

 

3. RHP Deck McGuire: Taken 11th overall in the 2010 draft, McGuire has yet to reach the heights suggested and projected by his lofty draft placement. Stuck in a Double-A purgatory since the end of the 2011 season, the 24-year-old righty has made 57 starts and logged over 320 innings at that level without advancement. It’s a solid-average at best arsenal, but McGuire did show some signs of life in 2013, and if he’s actually allowed to pitch outside the Eastern League in 2014, he might find his way to the majors where his likely role is a backend starter or middle reliever.

 

 

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Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/88 or later)

 

1. Marcus Stroman

2. Brett Lawrie

3. Aaron Sanchez

4. Alberto Tirado

5. Daniel Norris

6. Anthony Gose

7. Sean Nolin

8. A.J. Jimenez

9. Franklin Baretto

10. D.J Davis

 

After making a splash with offseason acquisitions heading into the 2013 season, Toronto’s plans for immediate improvement failed to come to fruition and the club finished a distant last in the American League East. While pitching depth plagued the Blue Jays last year, this list is stacked with young, potential impact or supporting arms percolating toward the bigs. The system’s top prospect and pitcher Marcus Stroman also checks in at no. 1, edging out third baseman Brett Lawrie. Stroman’s electric arsenal of three potential plus-plus pitches and mentality on the mound point toward a player who can maintain a sustained career stretch as an above-average major leaguer, whether it comes from the rotation or back of the bullpen. That projection put him on top.

 

Lawrie and Sanchez are right there with Stroman in what’s a closely clustered trio at the top. Lawrie earned the nod at no. 2 based on presently being a bit clearer to project out. The feel is that 2014 will begin to show the progression toward being an above-average player at peak, provided a string of good health. Sanchez owns the higher ceiling, and in fact the highest in the system, along with the tools to be a bona fide front-line starter. He could end up headlining this list until ineligible. There is a large enough present gap, however, where it’s gazing at rather than being within arms length of that ceiling. The 21-year-old also has yet to break the 100-inning threshold in a season, and is likely to pass into those uncharted waters while also making the jump into Double-A this year.

 

The fourth through sixth spots feature players with solid-average to above-average upside, but multiple developmental markers or adjustments ahead of them. While outfielder Anthony Gose has made it to the Show, the swing-and-miss in his offensive game leaves the impression the contact is going to be uneven and the identity as a hitter may not reach full establishment. Eighteen-year-old right-handed pitcher Alberto Tirado has the potential to quickly rise in recognizable status over the next couple of seasons as the physical development pushes the raw pitching tools up a notch. His placement represents the potential for considerable growth. Lefty Daniel Norris is sandwiched between them after showing signs of improvement last season.

 

The remainder of the list follows the aforementioned prospect order. Left-handed starter Sean Nolin doesn't have the ceiling of the arms in front of him, but offers the Jays potential stability and value in the back of the rotation. Catcher A.J. Jimenez has a shot to contribute during 2014 and beyond, while Franklin Barreto and D.J. Davis are toolsy, long-lead players in the infancy stages of their development. — Chris Mellen

 

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A Parting Thought: If you like tools and ceilings, this is one of the deepest and most attractive farms in baseball, despite using prospects as coupons for major-league talent in recent years.

 

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[GD]

Jimenez over Barreto. Ehh.

 

Stroman > Lawrie. Dayum.

[TwistedLogic]

Jimenez over Barreto. Ehh.

 

Stroman > Lawrie. Dayum.

 

Yeah lol. Parks has balls.

[Angrioter]

Keeping the distance, Labourt is a Sabathia kind of southpa; an intimidating presence on the mound but pitchability and great handling of his secondary stuff.

A lefty who can throw strikes at will worth gold.

 

f*** you Smoral, Brentz and...........Norris?; Labouert is here to break your asses.

[TheHurl]

May as well post the BA write-ups too

 

1. Aaron Sanchez, rhp

 

Aaron Sanchez

Aaron Sanchez (Photo by Mike Janes)

Born: July 1, 1992. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 190.

Drafted: HS—Barstow, Calif., 2010 (1st round supplemental). Signed by: Blake Crosby.

Background: One of the youngest players in the 2010 draft, Sanchez was the 34th overall pick and signed for a below-slot $775,000 bonus. He paid immediate dividends, as just months after the draft in instructional league, his velocity jumped from 93-94 mph to 97. An above-average athlete, the 6-foot-4, 190-pound Sanchez has long limbs and a wiry, angular build that will accommodate additional strength gains. Toronto has been careful with his workload, and Sanchez was limited to 22 games and 86 innings in 2013 after missing more than a month with shoulder discomfort. He started six times in the Arizona Fall League and had the second-highest strikeout rate (24 percent) of any pitcher with more than 20 innings, showcasing his immense potential.

Scouting Report: Sanchez has standout stuff and is lauded as an intelligent student of the game with a quiet aggression on the mound. His heavy fastball can sit 93-98 mph with plus life. It explodes out of his hand with smooth and effortless arm action. He throws a four-seamer with above-average cutting action to his glove side and increased the use of a two-seamer to his armside. Sanchez induces groundballs at a high rate, as his 2.34 groundout/flyout ratio was the second-best mark of any high Class A Florida State League pitcher with 80 or more innings. His curveball has plus potential with tilt and depth. TrackMan data from the AFL indicated his breaker’s spin rate is 21 percent higher than the major league average. Sanchez has a tendency to get on the side on the pitch, creating slider tilt and a large velocity discrepancy. His changeup is currently an average offering but has plus potential with late tumble and fade. Despite his easy arm action, Sanchez has posted below-average control numbers. His delivery underwent a transformation this season, as he had a tendency to miss up and armside, getting under his pitches. The organization shortened his stride length in order to have him work over the ball more with greater downhill plane. This made his arm action more compact and consistent. If he can maintain his plane to the plate, Sanchez could increase his stride length. He cut his walk rate (11.1 percent) in 2013, but it was still 31 percent higher than the FSL average. He walked more hitters (14.3 percent) out of the stretch than he struck out (13.6 percent) in 2013. In his 20 healthy regular season starts, he averaged just more than four innings per outing.

The Future: To reach his ceiling as a No. 2 starter, Sanchez will have to improve his control. But there are few pitchers in the minors with his ceiling and talent. If he can’t show the control to start, he has the stuff to become a high-end closer. He’s likely to start 2014 at Double-A.

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

Dunedin (HiA) 4 5 3.34 22 20 0 0 86 63 4 40 75 .200

Aaron Sanchez Player Card

 

2. Marcus Stroman, rhp

 

Marcus Stroman (Photo by Mike Janes)

Marcus Stroman (Photo by Mike Janes)

Born: May 1, 1991. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 5-9.

 

Wt: 185. Drafted: Duke, 2012 (1st round). Signed by: John Hendricks.

 

Background: A premium athlete, Stroman became the Duke’s first-ever first-round pick in 2012, signing for $1.8 million. He tested positive for an amphetamine in August 2012, and his 50-game suspension stretched into the 2013 season. He fell one out short of qualifying for the ERA title in the Double-A Eastern League, which he would have led in strikeout percentage (28.1 percent) while finishing second in strikeout-walk ratio (4.80).

 

Scouting Report: With a strong, compact build and quick-twitch athleticism, Stroman maintains plus stuff. He brandishes a heavy fastball at 92-95 mph with above-average movement. He has an out pitch in his upper-80s slider, a plus cutter that can touch the low 90s, and an average changeup that flashes plus potential. He varies the shape of his offspeed offerings. Staying on top of the baseball has been key, getting better downhill plane after softening his stride landing, getting over his front side better, staying on line longer and limiting his spinoffs. He shuts down the opposition’s running game and is an exceptional defender.

 

The Future: Stroman will likely begin 2014 in the Triple-A Buffalo rotation but could reach Toronto during the year. Since 1960, just two righthanders 5-foot-9 or shorter (Tom Phoebus and Tom Gordon) have more than 30 career major league starts. If Stroman does not defy the odds to start, he could be a high-end late-game reliever.

 

 

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

New Hampshire (AA) 9 5 3.30 20 20 0 0 111.2 99 13 27 129 .234

Marcus Stroman Player Card

 

3. D.J. Davis, of

 

D.J. Davis

D.J. Davis (Photo by Mike Janes)

Born: July 25, 1994. B-T: L-R. Ht.: 6-1.

Wt: 180. Drafted: HS—Wiggins, Miss., 2012 (1st round). Signed by: Brian Johnston.

 

Background: One of the youngest players in the 2012 draft, Davis was the first of five picks the Jays made before the second round. His father Wayne played in the organization from 1985-88. Davis has the highest ceiling of any position player in the system, offering impact potential at a premium position.

 

Scouting Report: Davis has a lean, wiry build with good strength in his hands and forearms, quick-twitch athleticism and top-of-the-scale speed. He has plus range in center and could become a plus defender. He has natural strength and leverage in his swing, producing plus raw power. He above-average bat speed and led all up-the-middle Appalachian League players in isolated slugging (.178). Davis could hit 15-20 home runs at his peak. His hit tool and overall game remain raw, however, and he has struggled to make consistent contact. His aggressive approach and limited breaking ball recognition led to him striking out in nearly 30 percent of his plate appearances. Davis, who has a below-average arm, will need to improve his outfield reads and game awareness, and learn to use his speed on the bases more efficiently, as stole bases at a below-average rate of 62 percent.

 

The Future: Davis is a high-ceiling talent who will take time to develop. He should get his first taste of full-season ball in 2014.

 

2013 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB

Bluefield ® .240 .323 .418 225 35 54 8 7 6 25 26 76 13

D.J. Davis Player Card

 

4. Mitch Nay, 3B

 

Mitch NayBorn: Sept. 20, 1993. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-3. Wt: 195. Drafted: HS—Chandler, Ariz., 2012 (1st round supplemental). Signed by: Blake Crosby.

 

Background: The grandson of Lou Klimchock, who played in the big leagues over parts of 12 seasons, Nay signed for $1 million in 2012 but broke his foot before playing that summer. He showed above-average hitting and power potential in 2013 and was MVP of the short-season Northwest League playoffs as he pushed Vancouver to its third consecutive title.

 

Scouting Report: With a large frame and strong build, the physical Nay has the potential to a middle-of-the-order hitter with power and on-base ability. In extended spring training, Nay raised his hitting load, got rid of his bat waggle and shortened his stride, shortening his swing path. He has bat speed and quick hands and makes hard contact to all fields. Scouts praise his contact ability, up-the-middle approach and ability to drive the ball to right field. He could be an above-average hitter to go with his 70-grade raw power. He has an advanced approach and should get on base at an above-average clip. Nay, who has a plus arm, is a below-average runner with adequate range but good hands at third. He led Appy League third basemen with 17 errors, and improving his lateral quickness and pre-pitch setup will be key for him to remain at the position.

 

The Future: Nay’s advanced approach should earn him a spot at low Class A Lansing for 2014. If he moves off third, he moves well enough to play right field.

 

2013 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB

Bluefield ® .300 .364 .426 230 41 69 11 0 6 42 25 35 0

Mitch Nay Player Card

 

5. Franklin Barreto, ss

 

Franklin Barreto

 

Born: Feb. 27, 1996. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 5-9. Wt: 175. Drafted: Venezuela, 2012. Signed by: Ismael Cruz/Luis Marquez.

 

Background: With a track record of performance in international tournaments, Barreto was one of the most decorated Venezuelan players ever and one of the top international talents available in 2012. He signed for $1.45 million and made his stateside debut in 2013, earning a promotion to the Rookie-level Appalachian League for 15 games.

 

Scouting Report: Barreto has the tools to be an above-average hitter, with above-average bat speed, quick hands and a line-drive stroke. He is an aggressive hitter with good pitch recognition and drives the ball to right field well. He has natural strength, a physical upper body and good natural leverage in his swing that could allow him to hit double-digit home runs and plenty of doubles. With athleticism, plus speed and a plus arm, Barreto is an up-the-middle player, though his long-term defensive destination is not determined. Currently a shortstop, he lacks elite defensive actions and footwork, but he will be given every opportunity to stay at short.

 

The Future: Barreto has the potential to hit at the top of a lineup. He likely will start 2014 in extended spring training, then return to the Appy League as an 18-year-old. He may wind up at second base or in center field if he moves out of the infield.

 

2013 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB

Blue Jays ® .299 .368 .529 174 30 52 16 6 4 19 13 42 10

Bluefield ® .204 .259 .333 54 4 11 5 1 0 7 2 14 0

Franklin Barreto Player Card

 

6. Daniel Norris, lhp

 

Daniel Norris

Daniel Norris (Photo by Paul Gierhart)

Born: April, 25 1993. B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-2. Wt: 180. Drafted: HS—Johnson City, Tenn., 2011 (2nd round). Signed by: Nate Murrie.

 

Background: The Jays had seven of the first seven of the first 78 picks in the 2011 draft, and while Norris was the sixth selection, he got the largest signing bonus in the class at $2 million, the most of any prep lefthander in the ’11 draft. He has moved slowly due to mechanical alterations and missed much of June with forearm tightness, then was substantially better after his return as the changes took hold.

 

Scouting Report: Norris’ strong second half is a testament to his plus athleticism. He implemented several alterations involving his stride that made his arm slot more consistent and improved his direction to the plate after throwing severely across his body. The differences were dramatic to scouts and his stat line, as he doubled his strikeout-walk ratio (3.4) in the second half. His release point became more consistent and his 91-95 mph fastball with above-average movement got greater downhill plane. His changeup became a more consistent plus offering to complement his plus mid-80s slider. His curveball, which had a large velocity separation, added power, flashing above-average. He still throws across his body some, and his command will have to improve.

 

The Future: Norris, who should open 2014 at high Class A Dunedin, needs to show he can go deeper into games with imroved strike-throwing ability to reach his No. 3 starter ceiling.

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

Lansing (LoA) 1 7 4.20 23 22 0 0 86 84 6 44 99 .255

Dunedin (HiA) 1 0 0.00 1 1 0 0 5 1 0 2 1 .063

Daniel Norris Player Card

 

7. Roberto Osuna, rhp

 

roberto-osuna-2013-abr

Roberto Osuna (Photo by Alyson Boyer Rode)

Born: Feb. 7, 1995. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-2. Wt: 230. Drafted: Mexico, 2011. Signed by: Marco Paddy.

 

Background: A heralded amateur who starred at international tournaments and showed mid-90s velocity as a 15-year-old, Osuna signed with the Blue Jays for $1.5 million in 2011. The nephew of former big league reliever Antonio Osuna, he entered 2013 as the youngest player in the Midwest League and got off to a tremendous start, striking out 35 percent of hitters with a 7.8 strikeout-walk ratio, before missing a month with a torn ulnar collateral ligament. He returned to make five starts but had Tommy John surgery in July.

 

Scouting Report: Osuna showed a 92-96 mph fastball featuring plus life from a quick, loose arm action with minimal effort. He has feel for a plus changeup. His slider, which has heavy two-plane break, has been inconsistent but shows plus potential. He has an advanced feel for pitching and showed the potential for plus control. With a large frame and burly build, Osuna’s physique warrants monitoring, but he has responded well to instruction, shedding a significant amount of weight entering the 2013 season and getting significantly stronger in his lower half and core.

 

The Future: In the wake of Tommy John surgery, Osuna’s age buoys his prospect status. He could see some 2014 action, but it would be limited. Osuna, who profiles as a No. 3 starter, should be healthy for 2015, when he will be 20.

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

Lansing (LoA) 3 5 5.53 10 10 0 0 42.1 39 6 11 51 .242

Roberto Osuna Player Card

 

8. Alberto Tirado, rhp

 

Alberto Tirado

 

Born: Dec. 10, 1994. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-1. Wt: 177. Drafted: Dominican, 2011. Signed by: Marco Paddy/Domingo Toribio.

 

Background: The Jays signed Tirado for $300,000 in 2011 as part of a deep international crop. Tirado, who has the highest upside of any pitcher on a deep Rookie-level Appalachian League staff, helped pitch Bluefield to the Appalachian League playoffs in 2013.

 

Scouting Report: The athletic Tirado is an unrefined pitcher whom scouts can dream on because he has some of the most electric stuff in the lower minors. He has a thin, wiry build, long limbs and a loose arm that is lightning quick, and the ball explodes out his hand. His fastball sat 92-96 mph with late life and touched 98, and he is working a sinker into game action. Tirado has two sliders, the harder of which (high 80s) could become a true swing-and-miss offering. He can get around on his sliders, causing them to flatten. His changeup is ahead of his breaking ball, which some believe has the higher long-term ceiling and plus potential. Both offspeed pitches improved substantially in 2013. Tirado has below-average command, with a tendency to overthrow, and has trouble staying on line to the plate, rushing his delivery and lacking balance at release.

 

The Future: Tirado has No. 2 starter upside if he can maintain his electric stuff over extended innings and refine his delivery. He has a chance to earn a spot in the low Class A Lansing rotation in 2014, likely after starting in extended spring training.

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

Bluefield ® 3 0 1.68 12 8 0 0 48 41 1 20 44 .236

Alberto Tirado Player Card

 

9. Dawel Lugo, ss

 

Dawel Lugo

 

Born: Dec. 13, 1994. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-0. Wt: 188. Drafted: Dominican, 2011. Signed by: Marco Paddy/Hilario Soriano.

 

Background: The Jays had the second-largest expenditure ($7.57 million) during the 2011 international signing period, and Lugo was one of three seven-figure signings ($1.3 million). He led Rookie-level Bluefield in home runs, hitting .297/.317/.469 and earned a promotion to short-season Vancouver.

 

Scouting Report: An above-average athlete, Lugo is a natural, pure hitter with supreme hand-eye coordination, feel for the barrel and the ability to drive the ball to all fields. He had the third-lowest strikeout rate of any Appy League teenager (13.9), which leads scouts to project him to be an above-average hitter. Lugo has surprising power, plus raw power that could enable him to hit more than 20 home runs annually. His see ball-hit ball approach leaves him impatetient, walking in 2.2 percent of his plate appearances in 2013. He excels at driving balls on the inner half but has struggled at times with pitches on the plate’s outer half. Defensively, Lugo has good, dependable hands with smooth actions at shortstop. His arm is plus but he’s a fringy runner.

 

The Future: While he has worked diligently to improve his lateral quickness and range, Lugo may fit better at third base long-term than at short. He will compete for a spot at low Class A Lansing but could return to Vancouver in 2014.

 

2013 Club (Class) AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB

Bluefield ® .297 .317 .469 192 28 57 11 2 6 36 5 28 1

Vancourver (SS) .246 .257 .348 69 6 17 4 0 1 8 1 13 0

Dawel Lugo Player Card

 

10. Sean Nolin, lhp

 

sean-nolin-2013-cw

Sean Nolin (Photo by Cliff Welch)

Born: Dec. 26, 1989. B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-5.

Wt: 235. Drafted: San Jacinto (Texas) JC, 2010 (6th round). Signed by: Aaron Jersild.

 

Background: In the first draft for the current regime, Toronto got good value in the sixth round, signing Nolin for $175,000. He has lost bad weight, especially from his lower half and core, since signing and has moved quickly. After starting the season late with a groin injury, he made an unsuccessful spot start in the majors in May, returned to Double-A and earned a late promotion to Triple-A.

 

Scouting Report: Nolin offers a true-four pitch mix with above-average command, capable of locating to all quadrants of the zone. He pitches with average fastball velocity, although can he reach back for a 95 mph four-seamer. Nolin creates deception and gets downhill plane from a high three-quarters arm slot, and uses a two-seamer to get sink. His changeup with late tumble is a plus offering. He entered the system with a curveball, which is now an average offering, and picked up an average mid-80s slider with sharp bite. With his high arm slot, Nolin’s fastball can have below-average life and he is likely to be a fly-ball pitcher.

 

The Future: Nolin is close to a finished product, and his above-average command could allow him to contribute in Toronto if called upon in 2014. He fits a No. 4 starter profile.

 

2013 Club (Class) W L ERA G GS CG SV IP H HR BB SO AVG

New Hampshire (AA) 8 3 3.01 17 17 1 0 93 89 6 25 103 .251

Toronto 0 1 40.50 1 1 0 0 1 7 1 1 0 .700

Buffalo (AAA) 1 1 1.52 3 3 0 0 18 13 1 10 13 .232

[Atothe]

. Ehh.

 

Stroman > Lawrie. Dayum.

 

Jimenez over Barreto, makes a ton of sense. Barreto is very much a long shot. Especially considering I don't think he starts in lansing this year.

[Grant77]

Yeah lol. Parks has balls.

 

There's a fine line between ballsy and stupid. Having Stroman ahead of Lawrie is stupid.

[Atothe]

There's a fine line between ballsy and stupid. Having Stroman ahead of Lawrie is stupid.

 

Why, what if Lawrie has plateaued already, what if he is what he is (3.5 war/year)? Stroman still represents hope.

[GD]

Why, what if Lawrie has plateaued already, what if he is what he is (3.5 war/year)? Stroman still represents hope.

 

Stroman (or Sanchez for that matter) eclipsing 3.5 WAR/year would be like a near best possible outcome.

[Grant77]

Why, what if Lawrie has plateaued already, what if he is what he is (3.5 war/year)? Stroman still represents hope.

 

Since when does Stroman have a 3.5 WAR floor?

[Atothe]

Since when does Stroman have a 3.5 WAR floor?

 

No one but it wouldn't surprised me. All I'm saying is without defense Lawrie is a AAAA player right now

[Atothe]

Since when does Stroman have a 3.5 WAR floor?

 

and thats a healthy 150 games a year Lawrie which he hasn't proved he is so far

[Atothe]

Stop man. Your straw man debate has fallen, the wind has already blown.

 

I will not Lawrie is really overrated on this board

[Angrioter]

Why, what if Lawrie has plateaued already, what if he is what he is (3.5 war/year)? Stroman still represents hope.

 

Stroman floor late inning guy = ~1,5 WAR (Nate Jones)

Stroman ceiling SP-3 = 3,5 WAR

[Grant77]

No one but it wouldn't surprised me. All I'm saying is without defense Lawrie is a AAAA player right now

 

So? He has defense...

[Angrioter]

Right now Lawrie is a great player without bat; When he can hit the ball then he'll be a stud (very soon)

[Atothe]

So? He has defense...

 

He is injury prone, if he has a great year I would trade him for a stud pitcher

[Grant77]

He is injury prone, if he has a great year I would trade him for a stud pitcher

 

That's nice. I'm still waiting for you to explain why Stroman has a 3.5 WAR floor when even Jason Parkes has him as a probable reliever (1-2 WAR).

[TheHurl]

I don't think this guy is all that wrong by saying Toronto over-rates him. He was well into negative defensive numbers in the second half last year (injury related I'm sure, he does seem to be a guy that will be playing injured a lot) and will never have the slugging percentage he's projected to have if he keeps hitting so many ground balls. Again it's going to take someone changing his approach, a year ago I would have said that he's not willing but last year he may have actually matured at the plate.

[TwistedLogic]

You just copy pasted this from the sub-forum, what exactly are you trying to prove?

Are you drunk again?

 

 

May as well post the BA write-ups too

Thank you! Was hoping someone had them.

[TwistedLogic]

Anyhow, this is a copy pasted info, that Dinger produced, and the Hurl represented. I mean atleast give them credit?!

 

Jokes!!

 

"Copy/pasted info" implies that I copied it and did nothing to it. The entire reason I reposted it was because it was a long unreadable blurb and I wanted to add formatting to it. I don't think you originally even read the first sentence of my post which is why you lashed out for no reason in the first place.

 

Also I don't think you know what Straw Man means lol.

[TheHurl]

Yeah, yeah...... everyone and their sister knows you never liked Lawrie.

 

I'd say I have always had tempered opinions of him. I never thought the pace he put up in 2011 was his true talent (which I think is pretty close to his 2012 batting numbers), so much of his success depends on where he ends up defensively.

[GD]

I will not Lawrie is really overrated on this board

 

You're talking about a 3.5 win/150 24 year old like it's a bad thing.

 

I don't think this guy is all that wrong by saying Toronto over-rates him. He was well into negative defensive numbers in the second half last year (injury related I'm sure, he does seem to be a guy that will be playing injured a lot)

 

Between injury problems, a large sample showing otherwise and the eye test, I'm gonna give Lawrie's defense last year a pass.

[Atothe]

That's nice. I'm still waiting for you to explain why Stroman has a 3.5 WAR floor when even Jason Parkes has him as a probable reliever (1-2 WAR).

 

I never said he was, I said I believe in his talent but with no track record I can't say what he is at the major league level. I think you mistook what i thought Lawrie's best case scenario is 3.5 war/year for stroman

[Atothe]

You're talking about a 3.5 win/150 24 year old like it's a bad thing.

 

 

 

Between injury problems, a large sample showing otherwise and the eye test, I'm gonna give Lawrie's defense last year a pass.

 

Remember when he came up, remember what baseball analysts taught us about player's primes and remember this year for Lawrie? Plus I didn't question his defense, he is a stud defensively. I question his health and his bat.

[TwistedLogic]

K.........................(hiccup)

Heh......

 

Two different responses to the same post, and neither of absolutely any substance. http://i.imgur.com/py2PxcN.gif

[Atothe]

It still means Stroman won't even comes close to his value this year or next.

 

depends all on Lawrie's health but I would agree with you because I don't believe stroman will see more then 50 innings

[TwistedLogic]

Why haven't you answered my real, remarks concerning ball?

 

What? It's incredibly hard to have any sort of conversation with you when your posts are often written in this incoherent, nonsensical manner.

I'm not sure if you do it on purpose, if it's because you post while drinking or if that's just how you type, but I can't "answer" or respond to your posts when they make no sense to me.

[GD]

Copy/Paste morning glory.

 

He made it a hell of a lot more readable, that counts for something.

[GD]

He still played it off as his morning glory. f*** that!

 

No, he didn't.

 

Posting this again as reference for the ongoing prospect polls, since it was buried in a dead thread. I only formatted the post, full credits go to Dr. Dinger for obtaining the information and TheHurl for originally posting it. Written by Jason Parks of Baseball Prospectus.