Nox Verified Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Ruben Amaro - Bad at everything, including drafting players. http://tangotiger.com/index.php/site/comments/rise-and-fall-of-the-phillies-draft-empire?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 It's not entirely on Amaro though. From the original article that Tango is quoting: None of this coincides with a perfect narrative of the Phillies’ leadership. The Phillies were still managed by Ed Wade through the 2005 season, who had overseen the great drafts from 1998 through 2003. Gillick replaced Wade in 2006, and Amaro replaced Gillick in 2009. One of the great architects of the Phillies’ successful teams was Mike Arbuckle, but he did not depart for the Royals until after 2008. So, one of the people most often credited for the youth movement that eventually took over the NL East by 2007 was also in a leadership position during the worst of the draft failures.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 From the article: The Phillies’ total career WAR among all drafted players from 2004 through 2014 is only 27.8 compared to a league average of 100.0. This is not just league-worst, it is less than half of the second-worst Blue Jays at 60.5. http://www.hardballtimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/6a.jpg A quantification of JP Ricciardi's ineptness, mostly. Although a little bit of that is on Alex I suppose. He took over before 2010?
Nox Verified Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 It's not entirely on Amaro though. From the original article that Tango is quoting: Correct. The results are not solely on Amaro. He didn't help though and it's always fun to poke fun at that jackass.
xposbrad Verified Member Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 With the Miley trade most likely going to happen. Can someone give the projected WARs for Boston's rotation and Toronto's rotation? Is Estrada #5 or is Sanchez at this point? I'm not up to date what the team plans to do because I keep hearing Sanchez is starting in the pen.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Estrada. Norris hopefully next in line. I tried to find your posting for the entire season WAR per position can you repost.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Wade Miley deal's done. Red Sox get: Wade Miley D-Backs get: Rubby De La Rosa, Allen Webster, Raymel Flores(?)
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 This is a nice move by Lawrie, but it's only going to encourage people like this girl's parents to keep up that ******** YouTube crap... http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/lawrie-still-giving-back-to-blue-jays-fans/
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Minor trade by the Red Sox: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/red-sox-acquire-zeke-spruill.html No idea on this trade.. Zeke Spruill was garbage in AAA this past year.. this has to be Pawtucket depth.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Minor trade by the Red Sox: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/12/red-sox-acquire-zeke-spruill.html No idea on this trade.. Zeke Spruill was garbage in AAA this past year.. this has to be Pawtucket depth. Any time you can acquire a player named Zeke, you have to pull the trigger...
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Notification on my ipad says twins officially signed Ervin Santana
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Notification on my ipad says twins officially signed Ervin Santana lol
Muck Bartinez Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 The ol' Josh Johnson treatment
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 The ol' Josh Johnson treatment How'd that work out for them! lol f***... I own him in the DDL.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 melky wants MORE Id give him 4 years, but as a DH mainly
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 The ol' Josh Johnson treatment And we all know how it ended for SD.. TJS and never threw a pitch for them. BTW, Josh Johnson is still a free agent..
labadee Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 And we all know how it ended for SD.. TJS and never threw a pitch for them. BTW, Josh Johnson is still a free agent.. obviously the turf at the rogers centre destroyed his career...
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 obviously the turf at the rogers centre destroyed his career... No, he was wrecked by the Marlins.. he was already a mess when he was traded.
labadee Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 No, he was wrecked by the Marlins.. he was already a mess when he was traded. Didn't he have a good second half in the last season with the marlins?
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Steve Gilbert @SteveGilbertMLB 12m12 minutes ago #Dbacks Dave Stewart listed Collmenter, Hellickson,De La Rosa and Webster as penciled in. Competition for No. 5 spot. Ewwwwwwwwwww
GreekFatAss Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 That is one joke of a franchise now.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 BTW, Josh Johnson is still a free agent.. Minor league deal with an invite to spring training?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Diamondback starters in terms of being good (approx): Rotation is bolded. Corbin Cahill Anderson Hellickson Delgado Collmenter Nuno De La Rosa Webster Really like Delgado kid.
baseballsss Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Not sure if mentioned yet but Amaro was offering Byrd in a package that cotains howard and his 60 million over 2 years. How much you wanna bet that jackass is asking for the teams top prospects? How did Amaro ever get a GM job jesus
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Diamondback starters in terms of being good (approx): Rotation is bolded. Corbin Cahill Anderson Hellickson Delgado Collmenter Nuno De La Rosa Webster Well when the team is going nowhere record wise, having young guys in the rotation isn't the worst thing.
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Lawrie visits fan who was crying over the trade. Cool on him. https://twitter.com/blawrie13
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Lawrie visits fan who was crying over the trade. Cool on him. https://twitter.com/blawrie13 1 page back.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Looks like Buster's been in the whiskey all Sat night.
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