Delmon Young working out at 1B

[Angrioter]

[KingKat]

 

ftfy?

[Angrioter]

Do it Alex. Here we all know you love Delmon

[Abomination]

 

Well, Delmon does hit lefties well. He can't possibly be any worse at 1st as he is in the outfield, can he? In all seriousness, we could probably do worse than him as a motivated bench platoon guy with some pop.

[Angrioter]

Well, Delmon does hit lefties well. He can't possibly be any worse at 1st as he is in the outfield, can he? In all seriousness, we could probably do worse than him as a motivated bench platoon guy with some pop.

 

maybe....................................Worst ballplayer after Yuniesky Betancourt?

[Angrioter]

Delmon Vs LHP

.348 wOBA, 115 wRC+

 

No Alex, no ps

[Jays]

Delmon Vs LHP

.348 wOBA, 115 wRC+

 

No Alex, no ps

 

I think we found Lind's platoon partner... and part time LF'er to give Melky a break.

[Angrioter]

I think we found Lind's platoon partner... and part time LF'er to give Melky a break.

 

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[TwistedLogic]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bakerje03&year=Career&t=b#plato

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=2073&position=2B&season=0#advanced

 

Going to post this over and over until I stop seeing people suggest moronic options like Delmon Young.

 

370 game sample, 128 wRC+, .875 OPS. Anthopoulos is a complete f***tard if he doesn't see this fit.

[Angrioter]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bakerje03&year=Career&t=b#plato

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=2073&position=2B&season=0#advanced

 

Going to post this over and over until I stop seeing people suggest moronic options like Delmon Young.

 

370 game sample, 128 wRC+, .875 OPS. Anthopoulos is a complete f***tard if he doesn't see this fit.

 

Jeff Baker is German, I don't think that the Jews-Canadian be happy with him in the team.

[Jays]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bakerje03&year=Career&t=b#plato

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=2073&position=2B&season=0#advanced

 

Going to post this over and over until I stop seeing people suggest moronic options like Delmon Young.

 

370 game sample, 128 wRC+, .875 OPS. Anthopoulos is a complete f***tard if he doesn't see this fit.

 

Baker is a Boras client, unfortunately.

[fatcowxlive]

Baker is a Boras client, unfortunately.

 

f***.

[Jays]

I think Chris Young is a free agent. He's younger than Baker. Hits lefties almost as well, can play CF and provide better defence.

[DwightDM]

I think Chris Young is a free agent. He's younger than Baker. Hits lefties almost as well, can play CF and provide better defence.

 

He signed with the Mets last week.

 

Sign Baker to a 2/10ish deal and be done with it.

[Jays]

He signed with the Mets last week.

 

He would have been nice.

[bzapple]

Maybe he can be like Michael Young and learn to play every position poorly.

[TwistedLogic]

Baker is a Boras client, unfortunately.

 

Who cares? The guy is 33. It's not going to matter who his agent is based on the salary he's expected to make.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

He signed with the Mets last week.

 

Sign Baker to a 2/10ish deal and be done with it.

 

5M a year for Baker? The guy has only had 300 PA one time. Definitely an intriguing guy though.

[DwightDM]

5M a year for Baker? The guy has only had 300 PA one time. Definitely an intriguing guy though.

 

Ideally its much less.. my point was more just sign the friggen deal and get it done. It's so obvious we need this type of player on our bench. If it takes 3,4 or 5M a year to get it done I don't think its a big deal... lets just get a platoon for Lind already.

[TwistedLogic]

5M a year for Baker? The guy has only had 300 PA one time. Definitely an intriguing guy though.

 

Doesn't matter because he's fed on lefties everytime he's seem them. The fact that he's only had 300 PA one time is exactly why you pick him up. He's an under-the-radar, buy-low guy that people won't immediately think to look at. And it is this point in the offseason you pick him up.

 

As I've said several times before though, if you can't get Baker (which hinges on if AA is truly dumn) or you don't like him because of age (again, AA being dumn, since we brought in DeRosa last year) or Boras (just always a stupid reason) then you have two other good alternatives:

 

- Trade the Marlins for Justin Ruggiano (hits lefties well, lots of team control, 3.5 WAR over the past two seasons in 219 games)

- Convince Rajai Davis to come back. He wants a starting job, tell him we can make a compromise. Everytime we face a lefty pitcher he'll start in left, Melky will DH and Lind will sit.

vs Righties, Lind will DH, Melky in LF, Rajai still comes into the game in the event of a pinch running situation.

 

These, of course, are just three possibilities. There's always another guy out there when it comes to looking for platoon players. DeRosa was a good example of that, he was one of the best lefty-hitters in the majors last year.

[TwistedLogic]

Sign Baker to 5-8M over 2 years with an option for another 1 or 2 years. Have it so that his contract gives us control parallel to Lind's, and is still expendable in the case that you no longer need him, or he's no longer good at his job.

[Jays]

Who cares? The guy is 33. It's not going to matter who his agent is based on the salary he's expected to make.

 

The Blue Jays just will not deal with Boras.

[TwistedLogic]

The Blue Jays just will not deal with Boras.

 

I feel like this has to be a myth, at least to some extent. I get not going after someone like Fielder or Ellsbury (at least I think they were Boras guys) but writing off the biggest sports agent in the world and his entire client-base just because you don't like how effective he is, is the most stupid f***ing way to run a front office.

[Jays]

is the most stupid f***ing way to run a front office.

 

That's how the Jays are run :|

[jaysblue]

Trade for Justin Ruggiano - problem solved!

[TwistedLogic]

That's how the Jays are run :|

 

This is also sort of an over-exaggeration. They've made some very questionable calls, but so has everybody. Dombrowski is thought by a lot of people to be one of the best GMs in baseball. The Fister trade, I would argue, is as bad as the Dickey trade. Either can be worse or better than the other, but at the time they were made, they were just as bad. The players the Mets got for Dickey should have went to the Tigers for Fister, and the players the Tigers got for Fister should have went to the Mets for Dickey. Both of those trades would have made a million times more sense.

 

Anthopoulos has built a very strong farm system, played the f*** out of everyone in the old draft compensation policy, acquired Lawrie, Rasmus, Escobar, Morrow, etc in very favourable trades, and people might disagree with me here, but I think he's got the absolute best track record for extensions since he became a general manager. It's f***ing ridiculous how favourable his extensions are.

 

Where has he really f***ed up? The Napoli trade, the Dickey trade and the way he managed JP Arencibia. Those are only the real big marks against him (I could have left something out?)

 

It's easy to s*** on someone in retrospect but these guys don't have crystal balls. None of us know how many of the 30 GMs wouldn't have traded Gomes for Rogers in the same situation. How does anyone know that his success this season could have been seen coming? He isn't a guy who went straight from the minors, he was someone who actually received playing time.

 

How many GMs would have picked to keep Napoli when he had both JP and TDA in the system, guys that were both highly regarded as prospects?

 

AA pisses the f*** out of me sometimes, but he gets far too much s*** than he deserves.

[John_Havok]

This is also sort of an over-exaggeration. They've made some very questionable calls, but so has everybody. Dombrowski is thought by a lot of people to be one of the best GMs in baseball. The Fister trade, I would argue, is as bad as the Dickey trade. Either can be worse or better than the other, but at the time they were made, they were just as bad. The players the Mets got for Dickey should have went to the Tigers for Fister, and the players the Tigers got for Fister should have went to the Mets for Dickey. Both of those trades would have made a million times more sense.

 

Anthopoulos has built a very strong farm system, played the f*** out of everyone in the old draft compensation policy, acquired Lawrie, Rasmus, Escobar, Morrow, etc in very favourable trades, and people might disagree with me here, but I think he's got the absolute best track record for extensions since he became a general manager. It's f***ing ridiculous how favourable his extensions are.

 

Where has he really f***ed up? The Napoli trade, the Dickey trade and the way he managed JP Arencibia. Those are only the real big marks against him (I could have left something out?)

 

It's easy to s*** on someone in retrospect but these guys don't have crystal balls. None of us know how many of the 30 GMs would have traded Gomes for Rogers in the same situation. How does anyone know that his success this season could have been seen coming? He isn't a guy who went straight from the minors, he was someone who actually received playing time.

 

How many GMs would have picked to keep Napoli when he had both JP and TDA in the system, guys that were both highly regarded as prospects?

 

AA pisses the f*** out of my sometimes, but he gets far too much s*** than he deserves.

 

The Happ trade was also dumn.

[TwistedLogic]

It was dumn but I didn't include it because it's not something that can make or break a team. Nobody really major traded hands there (the biggest quarrel I had with that was losing Musgrove and Comer after using high draft picks on them the year prior). The Dickey and Napoli ones had immediate repercussions and immediate implications. If you're going to talk about trades that are just generally dumn, then yes the Happ one was retarded, and I've always thought the Lincoln one was real stupid as well. But trades like that won't affect my opinion about a GM.

[John_Havok]

It wasn't about the assets traded so much, but that Happ was clearly nothing more than a 5th starter, which are readily available every year in the offseason via free agency, there was no need to give up anything to acquire a SP of Happ's calibre. It's an example of AA fixating on a player(Happ was known to be coveted as a target in the Halladay trade) and having his judgement clouded as a result

[bronson44]

This is also sort of an over-exaggeration. They've made some very questionable calls, but so has everybody. Dombrowski is thought by a lot of people to be one of the best GMs in baseball. The Fister trade, I would argue, is as bad as the Dickey trade. Either can be worse or better than the other, but at the time they were made, they were just as bad. The players the Mets got for Dickey should have went to the Tigers for Fister, and the players the Tigers got for Fister should have went to the Mets for Dickey. Both of those trades would have made a million times more sense.

 

Anthopoulos has built a very strong farm system, played the f*** out of everyone in the old draft compensation policy, acquired Lawrie, Rasmus, Escobar, Morrow, etc in very favourable trades, and people might disagree with me here, but I think he's got the absolute best track record for extensions since he became a general manager. It's f***ing ridiculous how favourable his extensions are.

 

Where has he really f***ed up? The Napoli trade, the Dickey trade and the way he managed JP Arencibia. Those are only the real big marks against him (I could have left something out?)

 

It's easy to s*** on someone in retrospect but these guys don't have crystal balls. None of us know how many of the 30 GMs wouldn't have traded Gomes for Rogers in the same situation. How does anyone know that his success this season could have been seen coming? He isn't a guy who went straight from the minors, he was someone who actually received playing time.

 

How many GMs would have picked to keep Napoli when he had both JP and TDA in the system, guys that were both highly regarded as prospects?

 

AA pisses the f*** out of me sometimes, but he gets far too much s*** than he deserves.

 

He also dumped one of the worst contracts in sports at the time and only had to eat what, 5M? I'm still amazed that actually happened.