Where will our farm rank come spring training?

[Chappy]

Since this is such a hot topic with everyone expecting AA to further gut the farm, where do we rank if one of Stroman/Sanchez and Nolin are traded? Seems like those are obvious players names that will come up in trade discussions as well as a few others.

 

Do we fall to bottom 5?

[GD]

I'm gonna guess 15-20.

[Angrioter]

12-15

[John_Havok]

Since this is such a hot topic with everyone expecting AA to further gut the farm, where do we rank if one of Stroman/Sanchez and Nolin are traded? Seems like those are obvious players names that will come up in trade discussions as well as a few others.

 

Do we fall to bottom 5?

 

With further gutting, bottom 7 for sure. If he doesn't trade Sanchez or Stroman, maybe 15-18.

[Angrioter]

12-15 if Sanchez and Stroman and Nolin are traded?

 

ouchhhhhhhhh

 

17-20

[Angrioter]

Our farm system sucks right now

 

Ask this question again November 2014 when Norris, Robson, Dawson, DeJong, Labourt, Tirado, Dragmire, Hollon, Castro, Cardona, Lugo, Barreto, Nay, Dean, Davis among others establish themselves

 

Dj Davis, Alford, Jake Anderson, Tellez, Brentz, Urena, Tyler Gonzales

[Angrioter]

Smoral, D Barreto, P Murphy + 2014 draft picks

 

Smoral was overrated (No heat). He could be the next Mark Hendrickson. lol

[theblujay]

Does this include the prospects we get for Bautista?

[Angrioter]

I'm going to have to take the wait and see approach on this one

 

What's Smorals velo?

 

Chris King

"Smoral first outing was really bad. No life on FB and was sitting 89-91. Didn't throw the slider but maybe twice"

"Last 3 outings his velo is back up around 91-93 touched 94. Slider was sharp and he was locating it well. Swing & misses"

[John_Havok]

Our farm system sucks right now

 

Ask this question again November 2014 when Norris, Robson, Dawson, DeJong, Labourt, Tirado, Dragmire, Hollon, Castro, Cardona, Lugo, Barreto, Nay, Dean, Davis among others establish themselves

 

There's a lot of potential there, but no real blue chippers and nobody on that list that will play above Low A with the exception of Norris. There's a lot of depth in the low minors, but that's not really translatable to a high ranking system without top end talent

[GD]

Osuna deserves to be in that list

[GD]

TJ surgery

 

puts him on pace to be in Dunedin in 2015

[GD]

Barring no setbacks

 

How many months is 2015 after his surgery? He should have ample time.

[Abomination]

I think he had surgery in July 2013.

 

What's the estimate recovery time for Tommy john? 15-18 months?

 

Think it's closer to a year now.

[GD]

12-18 months would have him ready in plenty of time.

[Abomination]

12-15 then?

 

He'll probably be back next year for the final month, then some extra action in the fall.

[GD]

Yup. But I think it also depends on how many innings he throws in 2014.

 

Do you think they'll start Osuna in Dunedin in 2015? He could be rusty and that would be a big promotion for a guy trying to get back into it after Tommy john. He's only had 10 starts in Lansing thus far.

 

I figure like Abom said he'll get in a month of starts in Lansing and maybe AFL or something.

[John_Havok]

November 2014, I said. Most of these guys will have finished there first season in A ball and headed to Dunedin for 2015.

 

Assuming they all deserve it. Remember that OF of Marisnick, Crouse and Knecht that was looking good a few years ago, now two of which are repeating levels and are pretty much in bust category with the other still lacking a legit hit tool for the Marlins. Full season ball has a way of weeding guys out pretty quick.

[kgm1]

Since this is such a hot topic with everyone expecting AA to further gut the farm, where do we rank if one of Stroman/Sanchez and Nolin are traded? Seems like those are obvious players names that will come up in trade discussions as well as a few others.

 

Do we fall to bottom 5?

 

If he trades Sanchez then some where in the 25 range . Trade both Sanchez and Stroman and we are heading for the cellar . Just have to start developing some of this talent in tyhe lower minors , something we just don't do well IMO

[o2cui2i]

Just have to start developing some of this talent in the lower minors , something we just don't do well IMO

 

cant get value right in trades, cant draft or teach... makes for a last place team, oh wait... we were.

[ElNik2013]

If the team has been as bad at drafting/developing over AA's tenure, then why are we so upset at the gutting of the farm system last year? And don't get me wrong, I've lost my trust in AA, but if they were so bad at drafting and developing, they wouldn't have had such a highly ranked system. I would've been perfectly content with keeping the prospects they traded away and wait for the horrible farm system to start graduating guys. Guys like d'Arnaud, Syndergaard, Nicolino, to name a few, were doing just fine while in the Blue Jays system, it's not like they were struggling and finally put it all together once they joined the Marlins and Mets orgs. How about Lawrie? Lawrie didn't struggle in the Jays system, in fact, his defense was supposed to be his weakness and he developed that just fine.

 

I'm not saying the Jays are the Rays or Cards, but I think there's some exaggerating going on.