Bourjos traded to STL Cards

[Angrioter]

[Angrioter]

Jon Jay relegated

Can we invade the Cards board?

[Dr. Dinger]

I wonder what this means for Taveras, with Holliday and Craig cemented in the corners.

[Jays]

Well there goes my choice for Jays starting CF. Good job by the Cards yet again.

[Nox]

I wonder what this means for Taveras, with Holliday and Craig cemented in the corners.

 

Traded for Price...

[Angrioter]

He better be playing over Jay!!

 

If the Cards keep Adams then Jay-Bourjos will fight for the CF spot (Holliday LF, Craig RF, Taveras AAA)

[Angrioter]

I wonder what this means for Taveras, with Holliday and Craig cemented in the corners.

 

Taveras need more playing time in the minors (Injury issues).

 

With Craig and Holliday in the corners, the Cards need a good CF.

[Dr. Dinger]

Traded for Price...

 

Price

Waino

Miller

Lynn

Wacha

Kelly

Martinez

Garcia

 

That would be a little overkill.

[Randy The Robot]

If the Cards keep Adams then Jay-Bourjos will fight for the CF spot (Holliday LF, Craig RF, Taveras AAA)

There is no completion. Bourjos is much better than Jay. Jay probably gets traded. Phenomenal trade by the Cards.

[Captain Adama]

Well this leaves Sir Trout free to run his reign of terror to any stray baseballs that may come his way in centrefield.

 

I like this for the Cards too, Bourjous is just swell. I wonder who the Angels are getting back.

[Nox]

Price

Waino

Miller

Lynn

Wacha

Kelly

Martinez

Garcia

 

That would be a little overkill.

 

I'm not sure you can ever have too much starting pitching depth. Plus they could easily move one of them young studs for something else shiny, new and useful.

[Dr. Dinger]

Apparently its Freese.

[Abomination]

Maybe it's just me, but Jay seems very underrated.

[Dr. Dinger]

I'm not sure you can ever have too much starting pitching depth. Plus they could easily move one of them young studs for something else shiny, new and useful.

 

The crazy thing is they could probably get Price without trading OT. Wacha/Martinez is probably close.

[Dr. Dinger]

Wait a second, Nox advocating trading the top hitting prospect in baseball for a pitcher? Theres something very weong with this picture, I'm going to contact the authorities.

[Angrioter]

Freese and Salas for Bourjos and Grichuk.

[Captain Adama]

Pretty good deal for the Angels. I like it.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Classic Cardinals.

 

Keep re-tooling on the fly. They'll win 90+ easily again next year.

[Nox]

Wait a second, Nox advocating trading the top hitting prospect in baseball for a pitcher? Theres something very weong with this picture, I'm going to contact the authorities.

 

 

Lol I'm not advocating it. I'd def take the OT side of that trade.

[KingKat]

Maybe it's just me, but Jay seems very underrated.

 

Not really. He did a great job 2012 but that was the only year he was a positive fielder and he really looked out of place in CF this year. They probably would have been o.k. with Jay holding the job for Taveras but when your as deep as the Cardinals, you can afford to address whatever small question marks you have. This is a huge defensive upgrade over Jay and a more viable alternative to Taveras if needed. As Nox mentionned, it also opens up the possiblity of a Taveras trade (to the Rockies for a ss?).

[z3r0s]

Not really. He did a great job 2012 but that was the only year he was a positive fielder and he really looked out of place in CF this year. They probably would have been o.k. with Jay holding the job for Taveras but when your as deep as the Cardinals, you can afford to address whatever small question marks you have. This is a huge defensive upgrade over Jay and a more viable alternative to Taveras if needed. As Nox mentionned, it also opens up the possiblity of a Taveras trade (to the Rockies for a ss?).

 

Oh man, please trade OT to the Rockies. Would make me happy in the DDL

[KingKat]

Oh man, please trade OT to the Rockies. Would make me happy in the DDL

 

Works for me too if it clears every day work for Rutledge.

[jaysblue]

I like this deal for the Cards. Bourjos is very underrated and I think he's the type of player that can thrive in St. Louis.

[jaysblue]

Oh man, please trade OT to the Rockies. Would make me happy in the DDL

 

I think if the Cards were to trade OT, it would be in a package for Tulo, not a pitcher like Price. So you never know. At least the offseason is now heating up!

[Abomination]

Not really. He did a great job 2012 but that was the only year he was a positive fielder and he really looked out of place in CF this year. They probably would have been o.k. with Jay holding the job for Taveras but when your as deep as the Cardinals, you can afford to address whatever small question marks you have. This is a huge defensive upgrade over Jay and a more viable alternative to Taveras if needed. As Nox mentionned, it also opens up the possiblity of a Taveras trade (to the Rockies for a ss?).

 

I meant that I think Jay is underrated as a player, not specifically as a center fielder or with the Cards. Someone will trade for him and move him into left field and get a very nice player out of the deal.

[Angrioter]

His speed doesn't translate into steals, so Bourjos still isn't fantasy relevant in any 3OF leagues. Steamer projects .250/.310/.397 w/ 11 HR, 13 SB in 493 PA.

 

I don't thing so. The Scioscia's static game affected him .

 

He's free to run now

[Angrioter]

Steamer

Jay 3,6 (+100 PA)

Bourjos 2,6

[Angrioter]

Last three seasons by stolen bases:

Angels - 351 (8th in MLB)

Cardinals - 193 (29th in MLB)

 

You're just making s*** up.

 

You're ignoring the configuration of the teams in question and managers.

Holliday, Beltran, Molina, Craig, Carpenter can't run

[Laika]

Bourjos' Steamer projection seems kind of bunk though.

 

He's been worth 9 wins in basically 2 seasons worth of playing time. He's still pre-prime. 2.6 wins seems pretty light.

[Angrioter]

I don't think most of them have backgrounds in math/statistics. Isn't it more or less a hobby for most them? Something to do for fun on the side and make a bit of cash. The real value of fangraphs for me is the stats that are available, not the articles. I rarely read the articles.

 

The articles bear no relation to their stats (Most of the time) ............ It's like if aliens provide the stats.