leaffie Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 If the Blue Jays shop Jose Reyes... October, 14, 2013 Oct 14 11:19 AM ET By Doug Mittler | ESPN.com Recommend48 Tweet10 Comments16 Email Print The Toronto Blue Jays pushed all their chips to the center of the table last offseason and came away empty-handed. The Blue Jays were never a serious contender and finished last in the AL East for the first time since 2004. So do the Blue Jays need only minor tinkering or another roster overhaul? One rival executive told Bill Madden of the New York Daily News that the Blue Jays “as presently constituted, can't possibly contend next year” and that this winter represents their last opportunity to get a reasonable return for shortstop Jose Reyes. Reyes has four years and $82 remaining left on a $106 million deal he signed with the Marlins. The 2011 National League batting champion is just 30 years old, but there are concerns about his ability to stay healthy. Limited to 93 games last season, Reyes put up a good slash line - .296/.353/.427 – but attempted just 21 steals, raising the question of whether he also could be losing a step. Recent history says GM Alex Anthopoulos tends to do most of his work through trades rather than the free agent market, so trading Reyes should not be out of the question. Here are some teams that might be interested: •New York Mets: Reyes made his mark in Queens and still has plenty of ties to the New York area. Ruben Tejada has failed as the successor to Reyes, and Omar Quintanilla is not viewed as a long-term solution at shortstop. Even with the fences moved in, Citi Field's big dimensions are a perfect fit for Reyes' game. •New York Yankees: This may be a reach, but the Yankees do need to find a successor for the aging Derek Jeter at some point. •Boston Red Sox: Stephen Drew is a free agent after the season, and the Red Sox might be unwilling to overpay for the Scott Boras client. But they might be willing to offer a premium for Reyes. Drew’s market value, however, could be reduced if the Red Sox make him a qualifying offer. •Seattle Mariners: Brad Miller may be the shortstop of the future in the Pacific Northwest, but this could be a position where the Mariners look to make a big splash.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah, I saw that article yesterday. That is one writer that needs to be looking for a new line of work.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I don't see it He's not trading him now If 2014 is a failure too then he'd be on the list of guys/contracts to move
leaffie Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Author Posted October 15, 2013 Yeah, I saw that article yesterday. That is one writer that needs to be looking for a new line of work. No kidding.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I would doubt we see Reyes being traded. AA is going to have to try and fix what he started. If he blows up the team he basically tells everyone that he f***ed (although most people know) up and he looses his job. He is likely to throw more money at the problem and try to fix what he broke and hope to god they make the playoffs which if he doesn't would likely be his last season. Just the way I see it although I may be wrong.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I would doubt we see Reyes being traded. AA is going to have to try and fix what he started. If he blows up the team he basically tells everyone that he f***ed (although most people know) up and he looses his job. He is likely to throw more money at the problem and try to fix what he broke and hope to god they make the playoffs which if he doesn't would likely be his last season. Just the way I see it although I may be wrong. You're not wrong. This is just a lame writer making stuff up.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Alex should let the contracts we're tied into run their course. Why trade players we have for future assets.
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I was actually curious about how less frequently Reyes attempted steals after coming back from his injury. I don't necessarily buy this argument of "losing a step" but I thought it would be interesting to see how much he was possibly taking it easy on his leg. I decided to look at the rate at which he attempted steals. To do this properly, I would have to not only count the number of times a player gets on base, but also how many times he advanced a base (e.g., he would have two opportunities if he singled, then the next batter walked), and I would also have to consider the situation. Since I don't want to go through the box score of every game he's played (I'm bored, but not that bored), I'm just going to do this the dumb way, and count up the number of times he reached base, not including home runs and call that the chances. Then I'll add up stolen bases and caught stealing, which will give me the attempts. By dividing the attempts by the chances, we get an attempt rate. So, SBA% = (SB + CS) / (H + BB + HBP + ROE - HR) The left panel is his SBA% since 2005. His 2013 numbers only include his 83 games after he returned (there's only a 0.02 change). The right panel is the month-by-month breakdown of 2013. Since he only played five games in June, I lumped that in with July. While the (binomial) errors are pretty large, you can see that in the ~30 games right after coming back, he was back to roughly the SBA% as he had for 2010 through 2012. The next two months, he attempted fewer and fewer SBs, which I'd attribute to him taking it easy, especially since the team was utterly and completely out of contention. Granted, you could just as easily draw a straight horizontal line through the last three points and say that, within the noise, it's likely his attempt rate was pretty constant.
The_DH Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 No he would net something. He has a bat.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I think he could net something of value. The Marlins could use an SS, maybe we could land that Marisnick ki- s***.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Injury history is a real concern if Reyes was to be traded... but other than that whats wrong with his contract?
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 If the Blue Jays shop Jose Reyes... October, 14, 2013 Oct 14 11:19 AM ET By Doug Mittler | ESPN.com Recommend48 Tweet10 Comments16 Email Print The Toronto Blue Jays pushed all their chips to the center of the table last offseason and came away empty-handed. The Blue Jays were never a serious contender and finished last in the AL East for the first time since 2004. So do the Blue Jays need only minor tinkering or another roster overhaul? One rival executive told Bill Madden of the New York Daily News that the Blue Jays “as presently constituted, can't possibly contend next year” and that this winter represents their last opportunity to get a reasonable return for shortstop Jose Reyes. Reyes has four years and $82 remaining left on a $106 million deal he signed with the Marlins. The 2011 National League batting champion is just 30 years old, but there are concerns about his ability to stay healthy. Limited to 93 games last season, Reyes put up a good slash line - .296/.353/.427 – but attempted just 21 steals, raising the question of whether he also could be losing a step. Recent history says GM Alex Anthopoulos tends to do most of his work through trades rather than the free agent market, so trading Reyes should not be out of the question. Here are some teams that might be interested: •New York Mets: Reyes made his mark in Queens and still has plenty of ties to the New York area. Ruben Tejada has failed as the successor to Reyes, and Omar Quintanilla is not viewed as a long-term solution at shortstop. Even with the fences moved in, Citi Field's big dimensions are a perfect fit for Reyes' game. •New York Yankees: This may be a reach, but the Yankees do need to find a successor for the aging Derek Jeter at some point. •Boston Red Sox: Stephen Drew is a free agent after the season, and the Red Sox might be unwilling to overpay for the Scott Boras client. But they might be willing to offer a premium for Reyes. Drew’s market value, however, could be reduced if the Red Sox make him a qualifying offer. •Seattle Mariners: Brad Miller may be the shortstop of the future in the Pacific Northwest, but this could be a position where the Mariners look to make a big splash. The only one that makes sense IMO is the Mariners and it would still take multiple moves and a reinvestment of the financial commitment in FA to be worthwhile. Something along the lines of; Reyes --> SEA for Franklin + Paxton (maybe more?) Bautista --> TEX for Profar + some pitching, I'd ask for Holland but it would likely take more to land him Sign McCann and Choo
kgm1 Verified Member Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Wow these guys get PAID to write this s*** . Where do I sign on .
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