Josh Donaldson passed Miggy in WAR

[Angrioter]

The war against rWAR will begin in 5...4...3...2...1...

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2013&month=0&season1=2013&ind=0

[jays_fever]

Well in defense of Miggy, its not his fault the Tigers believe he's a 3rd baseman.

[admin]

What would Miggy's WAR be if he was an adequate defender? 11?

[G-Snarls]

What would Miggy's WAR be if he was an adequate defender? 11?

 

Off the chart

[G-Snarls]

Well in defense of Miggy, its not his fault the Tigers believe he's a 3rd baseman.

 

Hahaha. So true. They have 3 guys who should be nothing but 1B/DH

 

We should get Victor Martinez. If only we had a 3B to trade them...

[G-Snarls]

Plus then we'd have 3 guys who can only play 1B/DH and 4 unless Melky gets moving

[Angrioter]

Donaldson for MVP, He's a legit candidate but Miggy is the guy.

[Angrioter]

Trout is the guy.

 

Trout's contributions have not been converted into wins for the Angels....But yes, He's the best baseball player on earth

[Jays]

What would Miggy's WAR be if he was an adequate defender? 11?

 

Considering how bad of a defender he is, they could replace Miggy with Goins and only lose about 2 wins. hahaha

[Angrioter]

MostValuablePlayer. WAR is in terms of value. Making the post season has nothing to do with it.

 

WAR is about create and prevent runs, No win games.

 

MVP is a quasi-collective award lol

 

stats + playoff = MVP

[Jays]

WAR is about create and prevent runs, No win games.

 

You win games by creating and preventing runs.

[Angrioter]

You win games by creating and preventing runs.

 

Not necessarily. This is not tennis, it's baseball. It is a sport in which many men are involved.

[Jays]

Not necessarily.

 

How do you win games then? Kluch hitting and Vetrin's presents?

[theblujay]

How do you win games then? Kluch hitting and Vetrin's presents?

 

You win by scoring more than the opponent, which sometimes is a lot about situational hitting, pitching and defense.

[Jays]

You win by scoring more than the opponent

 

yes, which is done by creating and preventing runs

[Angrioter]

How do you win games then? Kluch hitting and Vetrin's presents?

 

You win games when all you team create and prevent runs.

 

Should be a difference between best player and most valuable player.

 

Last year Trout was the MVP. Trout's contributions made ​​the Angels a competitive team.

[Jays]

You win games when all you team create and prevent runs.

 

Should be a difference between best player and most valuable player.

 

Last year Trout was the MVP. Trout's contributions made ​​the Angels a competitive team.

 

It's not Trout's fault his team is exceptionally worse this year.

[Angrioter]

yes, which is done by creating and preventing runs

 

Trout's + Angels contributions only serve to make the Angels win 48% of their games.

McCutchen + Pirates 58%

[Angrioter]

It's not Trout's fault his team is exceptionally worse this year.

 

So I said, "He's the best player in 2013"

Valuable = win games, real games.

[Jays]

if Donaldson was on the Angels and Trout was an Athletic, would the Angels be better than what they are?

[Jays]

Valuable = win games, real games.

 

The angels have won 73 games this year. Those are real wins. They'd be a whole lot worse without Trout, he can't carry a bad team by himself, he's the best player in baseball and he still can't get them above .500.

[Angrioter]

your dumn

 

Enlighten me with your wisdom omnipotent.... bitch

[GeorgiaPeach]

Hahaha. So true. They have 3 guys who should be nothing but 1B/DH

 

We should get Victor Martinez. If only we had a 3B to trade them...

 

Old, broken, expensive, defensively limited......what more could a team ask for.

[GeorgiaPeach]

WAR is about create and prevent runs, No win games.

 

MVP is a quasi-collective award lol

 

stats + playoff = MVP

 

Andre Dawson & George Bell, 1987???

[GeorgiaPeach]

Not necessarily. This is not tennis, it's baseball. It is a sport in which many men are involved.

 

So essentially what you're saying is, the highest WAR player of his respective league whose team makes the playoffs.

 

So if the Pirates were to miss the playoffs by 1 game=Matt Carpenter MVP. If the Pirates slide into the playoffs by one game, McCutchen is the MVP.

 

Stupid f***ing thinking.

[GD]

Carpenter is a legit candidate. Cutch obviously blows him away, but he's not a bad candidate.

[Laika]

You win games when all you team create and prevent runs.

 

Should be a difference between best player and most valuable player.

 

Last year Trout was the MVP. Trout's contributions made ​​the Angels a competitive team.

 

So if the Houston Astros had a 20 WAR player, he wouldn't be in the running for the MVP award?

 

Individual awards shouldn't be dependent on team success. It's not Trout's fault that he plays for a stupid franchise that can't spend money properly.

[GeorgiaPeach]

if Donaldson was on the Angels and Trout was an Athletic, would the Angels be better than what they are?

 

Amazing to think based on Angrioter, or whoever he is, thought process. If Josh Donaldson was dealt at the deadline to a non-playoff team, Miguel Cabrera wins the MVP.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Carpenter is a legit candidate. Cutch obviously blows him away, but he's not a bad candidate.

 

I understand he's a good candidate.

 

My scenario was based more on the situation of missing or making the playoffs by one game. And crowning a less deserving player due to slightest of differences in team record.

[theblujay]

Some of you actually think Donaldson should win the MVP?!?!?