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He ranks third in the American League in home runs with 36. He ranks third in RBI with 102. He ranks fifth with a .925 OPS. While it may be unrealistic to think that Edwin Encarnacion will ever win the Triple Crown, especially while Miguel Cabrera is still in a major league uniform, the Toronto Blue Jays slugger could certainly take two out of three of those categories in 2014.

 

In fact, looking ahead to 2014, Encarnacion could well be the top first baseman in the American League, if not all of baseball. Sure, Chris Davis is flirting with a .300 batting average and 50 home run season, but its hard to imagine that he'll be able to sustain a career-high 30.9 HR/FB percentage along with his low (for him) strikeout percentage of 28.8 percent.

 

Encarnacion, on the other hand, has seen his batting average remain consistently in the .270-.280 range for three seasons now while steadily improving his BB/K rate to 1.37. While Davis seems prime for regression, Encarnacion looks to be the "safer" player in terms of a repeat 2014 season. Fantasy players, especially, should make sure his name sits near the top of all of their 2014 wish lists.

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One of the few bright spots this year. He's really become one of the game's best rounded hitters. Thanks for the post.
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Man... did about 95% of jays fans want him gone in 2011. Now that he gots his money and his place in the game, he is all confidence..... and the effects are cumulative.
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One of the few bright spots this year. He's really become one of the game's best rounded hitters. Thanks for the post.

 

Yep

 

He is unquestionably our best hitter now. Probably has been for at least a year, maybe more.

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He's the team's best hitter. Really become one of the league's elite the last couple years.

 

Top 10 hitter in the game, no doubt.

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He ranks third in the American League in home runs with 36. He ranks third in RBI with 102. He ranks fifth with a .925 OPS. While it may be unrealistic to think that Edwin Encarnacion will ever win the Triple Crown, especially while Miguel Cabrera is still in a major league uniform, the Toronto Blue Jays slugger could certainly take two out of three of those categories in 2014.

 

In fact, looking ahead to 2014, Encarnacion could well be the top first baseman in the American League, if not all of baseball. Sure, Chris Davis is flirting with a .300 batting average and 50 home run season, but its hard to imagine that he'll be able to sustain a career-high 30.9 HR/FB percentage along with his low (for him) strikeout percentage of 28.8 percent.

 

Encarnacion, on the other hand, has seen his batting average remain consistently in the .270-.280 range for three seasons now while steadily improving his BB/K rate to 1.37. While Davis seems prime for regression, Encarnacion looks to be the "safer" player in terms of a repeat 2014 season. Fantasy players, especially, should make sure his name sits near the top of all of their 2014 wish lists.

 

The thing with EE is look at his K totals - they are amazing. For a profound power hitter like he is, he has really low strikeout totals which is surreal in comparison to guys like Davis etc.

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Only 58 strikeouts in 137 games. That is amazing.

 

That really, really is. Especially for a guy who can hit 40 home runs.

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In the last decade or so, can't really think of anyone - Gary Sheffield came close in 1992 with the Padres (32 HR, 40 K's).
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Bonds did as well

 

Yep, only once, 2004

 

Just looked it up out of curiosity

 

Bonds 2004 - 45 HR, 41 K, 232 BB (that's not a typo, 232 walks) and an OPS of 1.422

 

Oh, and a .609 OBP

 

FFS

 

I'm surprised he even managed to hit 45 HR that year - that's one of the seasons that essentially no one would pitch to him

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Yep, only once, 2004

 

Just looked it up out of curiosity

 

Bonds 2004 - 45 HR, 41 K, 232 BB (that's not a typo, 232 walks) and an OPS of 1.422

 

FFS

 

I'm surprised he even managed to hit 45 HR that year - that's one of the seasons that essentially no one would pitch to him

 

This is why Bonds needs to be in the HOF. I don't care if he did steroids or not. I'm sure half the people in the HOF cheated somehow and experimented with different drug cocktails.

 

He was close a couple other times too. 2002 - 46HR, 47SO. 1994 - 37HR, 43SO. He also had 18 straight seasons where he walked more then he struck out.

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This is why Bonds needs to be in the HOF. I don't care if he did steroids or not. I'm sure half the people in the HOF cheated somehow and experimented with different drug cocktails.

 

He was close a couple other times too. 2002 - 46HR, 47SO. 1994 - 37HR, 43SO. He also had 18 straight seasons where he walked more then he struck out.

 

Yep I'm 100% for Barry being in the Hall of Fame. It's a travesty if he's not in there.

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Yep I'm 100% for Barry being in the Hall of Fame. It's a travesty if he's not in there.

 

Same with Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, and A-Rod when he retires.

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This is why Bonds needs to be in the HOF. I don't care if he did steroids or not. I'm sure half the people in the HOF cheated somehow and experimented with different drug cocktails.

 

He was close a couple other times too. 2002 - 46HR, 47SO. 1994 - 37HR, 43SO. He also had 18 straight seasons where he walked more then he struck out.

 

You really can't keep Barry Bonds out of the hall of fame.

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tell that to Pete Rose

 

No offense to Pete Rose... he should be in the hall... but his career 80.4 WAR is not in the same league as Barry Bonds 164.1 (yes more than double)

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No offense to Pete Rose... he should be in the hall... but his career 80.4 WAR is not in the same league as Barry Bonds 164.1 (yes more than double)

 

Who cares - virtually nobody is in the same league as Bonds.

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How the f*** is Carter 2nd on that Pollack......the guy hits one memorable HR and the accolades continue to pour in.

 

Ya, ain't it. I went with Alomar. But I was also thinking about Delgado or Halladay

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How the f*** is Carter 2nd on that poll......the guy hits one memorable HR and the accolades continue to pour in.

 

In the early 90's we didn't have the same advanced metrics we do today (or at least regular people didn't really have access to them). Sluggers were primarily defined by home runs and rbi, and Carter basically average 30 home runs and 100 rbi while he was a Blue Jay. Today I would certainly rank quite a few people on that poll ahead of him, but I don't fault people who aren't knowledgeable in advanced statistics for voting the way they did. I know growing up he was one of my favorite players.

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I can understand why maybe players on the bubble would take steroids. But when you're already a great playe why risk it. Bonds obviously got much bigger but it actually took away from his fielding and speed. He was an all-around talent.

 

Sure, but he made up for everything with his bat. It's too bad he was an ******* and did PEDs because players of his calibre come around once a century. His career should have been celebrated, and now he's the face of everything that's wrong with baseball.

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