Trade Deadline Thread

[Laika]

You guys need to relax. Think about it this way, if you were a team trying to win a World Series, would you really want Johnson, Oliver, Bonifacio, DeRosa, Melky, Juan Perez, etc? No, you probably wouldn't.

 

Sure, you might want a quality reliever like Janssen, Delabar, Loup, or Cecil, but the Jays are certainly going to try to win in 2014, and those guys are under control and will probably still be good next year.

 

There's only one guy that I could see competitive teams really wanting that Toronto should trade, and that's Rajai Davis. But so f***ing what. You might get a PTBNL for him.

 

If you want to get upset that they're trying to compete with this core, then that's warranted I guess. But it's nonsensical to get upset that the Blue Jays aren't making a deadline trade, given the context.

 

Blame AA for making the context, not for acting appropriately within it.

[Angrioter]

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[bzapple]

Lol, worst deadline ever. Almost nothing of interest.

 

Wasn't expecting anything from the Jays but usually there's at least a surprise or two around the league.

[Jimcanuck]

You guys need to relax. Think about it this way, if you were a team trying to win a World Series, would you really want Johnson, Oliver, Bonifacio, DeRosa, Melky, Juan Perez, etc? No, you probably wouldn't.

 

Sure, you might want a quality reliever like Janssen, Delabar, Loup, or Cecil, but the Jays are certainly going to try to win in 2014, and those guys are under control and will probably be still be good next year.

 

There's only one guy that I could see competitive teams really wanting that Toronto should trade, and that's Rajai Davis. But so f***ing what. You might get a PTBNL for him.

 

Completely off the mark

[Sammy225]

Expected this from the Jays but I am disappointed as a whole. I thought there would be more then 3 lousy trades. I would of liked to see a couple doooseys.

[KSaw]

Lets just let Stilson dominate Triple-A until he has to be put on the 40-man. K

 

Luis Perez will come off the DL and be ahead of Stilson. Weber, Wagner, Lincoln and (a healthy) Schwimmer are ahead of him too.

[theblujay]

You guys need to relax. Think about it this way, if you were a team trying to win a World Series, would you really want Johnson, Oliver, Bonifacio, DeRosa, Melky, Juan Perez, etc? No, you probably wouldn't.

 

Sure, you might want a quality reliever like Janssen, Delabar, Loup, or Cecil, but the Jays are certainly going to try to win in 2014, and those guys are under control and will probably be still be good next year.

 

There's only one guy that I could see competitive teams really wanting that Toronto should trade, and that's Rajai Davis. But so f***ing what. You might get a PTBNL for him.

 

Well now we get to watch 5-6 relievers rot in AAA next year.

 

Oh yeah and we didn't improve the team at all. This is the beginning of the end of Bautistas trade value

[TheHurl]

I have no problem trading Oliver. What's ridiculous is your take on asset management.

 

Oliver will still be dealt. He can be easily be a post waiver trade guy

[Jimcanuck]

Well now we get to watch 5-6 relievers rot in AAA next year.

 

Oh yeah and we didn't improve the team at all. This is the beginning of the end of Bautistas trade value

 

Exactly, except Bautista's trade value started declining last year.

[Laika]

Well now we get to watch 5-6 relievers rot in AAA next year.

 

Oh yeah and we didn't improve the team at all. This is the beginning of the end of Bautistas trade value

 

Is offseason/waiver trading illegal in the new CBA or something? If the right deal wasn't out there, then it wasn't out there.

 

Can't really blame AA for not wanting to part with his top BP arms. He'll want them next year.

 

It sucks that Oliver has been so crummy this year, he could've been a chip. Juan Perez has pitched well but you can totally see why nobody would want to trade for him.

 

Nobody is going to rot in AAA. The team has cycled through like, 20 f***ing relievers already this year. Guys will get their chances.

[JSFIP]

Are you kidding me aa?????/ no trades????? Wtf are you thinking????? Seasons over guys!!!!!!!!

[jays4life19]

Are you kidding me aa?????/ no trades????? Wtf are you thinking????? Seasons over guys!!!!!!!!

 

It was over a long time before today.

[JSFIP]

It was over a long time before today.

 

There was still hope

[SAAviour]

I'd be a lot angrier if other teams traded a lot of players, but not much actions at all. I would have thought with such few sellers that buyers would pay a premium but it doesn't appear that way.

I guess not much AA could do.

Still, #hatethisteam

[theblujay]

Is offseason/waiver trading illegal in the new CBA or something? If the right deal wasn't out there, then it wasn't out there.

 

Can't really blame AA for not wanting to part with his top BP arms. He'll want them next year.

 

It sucks that Oliver has been so crummy this year, he could've been a chip. Juan Perez has pitched well but you can totally see why nobody would want to trade for him.

 

Nobody is going to rot in AAA. The team has cycled through like, 20 f***ing relievers already this year. Guys will get their chances.

 

When are our top relievers values going to be higher than they are now? Never. We have a surplus that other teams want and we did nothing to preserve a bullpen.

[KSaw]

You guys need to relax. Think about it this way, if you were a team trying to win a World Series, would you really want Johnson, Oliver, Bonifacio, DeRosa, Melky, Juan Perez, etc? No, you probably wouldn't.

 

Sure, you might want a quality reliever like Janssen, Delabar, Loup, or Cecil, but the Jays are certainly going to try to win in 2014, and those guys are under control and will probably still be good next year.

 

There's only one guy that I could see competitive teams really wanting that Toronto should trade, and that's Rajai Davis. But so f***ing what. You might get a PTBNL for him.

 

If you want to get upset that they're trying to compete with this core, then that's warranted I guess. But it's nonsensical to get upset that the Blue Jays aren't making a deadline trade, given the context.

 

Blame AA for making the context, not for acting appropriately within it.

 

I mostly agree. I do think that there was a missed opportunity with Cleveland. The Cards jumped in. They have a glut of good young middle infielders and Cecil was a good chip to play. Other than that, I'm with you, though I do feel that Oliver, DeRosa and Bonifacio will all clear waivers and still be moved. The returns will be cash, a PTBNL or kids who would be rule 5 exposed at the Winter Meetings. Might find a diamond in the rough there but unlikely.

Edited July 31, 2013 by KSaw
Typos

[JSFIP]

AA is going to address the media in a few minutes

 

Can't wait

 

I can. I can't even look at the guy without wanting to throw up

[TheHurl]

AA is going to address the media in a few minutes

 

Can't wait

 

We took some calls, but no one offered us anything that we felt could bring this team to the next level whether that is this year or next. We still believe in this team moving forward...

 

You don't need to listen now

[theblujay]

AA is going to address the media in a few minutes

 

Can't wait

 

"Deals were on the table, but didn't work out"

 

"We didn't want to weaken our bullpen for our playoff run this year"

[vdartanian]

Oliver will still be dealt. He can be easily be a post waiver trade guy

 

As could Bonifacio, Rajai, Buehrle, Johnson (if he can ever get his s*** together) and a couple of our surplus RP's. No need to panic, although I'm not sure I believe anything significant will likely get done.

[Caper]

AA is going to address the media in a few minutes

 

Can't wait

 

Yes I guess we will all find out why he didn't bite on that Oliver for Profar deal.

[JSFIP]

 

Fire him NOW

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

I'd be a lot angrier if other teams traded a lot of players, but not much actions at all. I would have thought with such few sellers that buyers would pay a premium but it doesn't appear that way.

I guess not much AA could do.

Still, #hatethisteam

 

The rest of our division had no problems getting deals done. We had an excellent trade chip in Bautista which has now been wasted. We had plenty of tradeable assets in the bullpen.

 

There's no spinning this: AA f***ed up. Badly. End of story.

[theblujay]

 

Ugh I'm getting sick of this guy

[Captain Adama]

 

Aaron Sanchez, Roberto Osuna and AA's last Butterfinger for Jeff Locke and Russell Martin.

 

Jays didn't want Martin.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

 

AA's lying out his ass. Complete ******** and he knows it. He just didn't want to admit he screwed up and start the rebuild. PATHETIC.

[Jimcanuck]

come on someone ask him about texas

[Abomination]

 

Not surprising. 90% of the crap floating around out there is probably made up by journalists desperate to validate their salaries.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

 

Then why did he do the Marlins and Dickey trades? Those made the ballclub WORSE.

[theblujay]

 

I guess letting them walk helps the team more