Time to fire Gibbons!

[Daniel Labude]

It is time to fire Gibbons. He obviously can not manage a team to a winning record. He should never have been hired in the first place. We fired him before and its time to fire him again. Someone needs to be held accountable for this crap on the field and he is a part of the problem.

[Buster]

Meh. fire him, dont fire him, makes no difference to me. Play without a manager, for all I care.

[Daniel Labude]

The manager is not the problem. Our team sucks at baseball.

 

So this team is so much worse than last year why. We upgraded the pitching staff and SS. We changed managers. That is the main problem. Gibbons sucked 5 years ago and he sucks now and will continue to suck into the future.

[Boxcar]

It is time to fire Gibbons. He obviously can not manage a team to a winning record. He should never have been hired in the first place. We fired him before and its time to fire him again. Someone needs to be held accountable for this crap on the field and he is a part of the problem.

 

You're an idiot with the analytical skills of a fence.

[Daniel Labude]

You're an idiot with the analytical skills of a fence.

 

At least I know to never rehire a guy you already fired.

[Daniel Labude]

You really f***ing think the reason this team is losing is because of Gibbons? Gibbons doesn't play on the field.

 

Hell yes. He does not know how to motive the players, manage the bullpen, or instill the basic fundamentals of baseball that is nonexistent on this team.

[Boxcar]

At least I know to never rehire a guy you already fired.

 

WOW! Good job! Someone hand this guy control of a Major League team!

[Anemic0ffense]

Relax everyone... I recall saying right before the 2nd half began that an 11 game losing streak (or something close to it) to start the 2nd half is best for the future of this team... They will have no choice but to start firing people now... Maybe the team just gave up on purpose... Who knows?

[Boxcar]

Nice trade today.

 

I'm near the bottom in dingers and RBI anyway and that's Bruce's main selling point. Indeed, good trade.

[Boxcar]

Relax everyone... I recall saying right before the 2nd half began that an 11 game losing streak (or something close to it) to start the 2nd half is best for the future of this team... They will have no choice but to start firing people now... Maybe the team just gave up on purpose... Who knows?

 

Of course they have a choice. They SHOULD fire AA, but they will, at worst, fire the coaching staff. Too bad, they are not the root of the problem.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

The manager is not the problem. Our team sucks at baseball.

 

Not only does the manager share in the blame for that, the fact that Gibbons has never had a team that DOESN'T suck at baseball (besides maybe the extremely mediocre '06 team) says it all about him. Again, nobody else wanted him, and his hiring was 100% an arrogant show-off move by Fat Alice. "This team is so stacked, they can win even with Gibbons as the manager! I'm a genius!" was probably his thought process. Totally blew up in his face, they both need to go.

[fatcowxlive]

It is time to fire Gibbons. He obviously can not manage a team to a winning record. He should never have been hired in the first place. We fired him before and its time to fire him again. Someone needs to be held accountable for this crap on the field and he is a part of the problem.

 

Oh he'll be fired, like he did the first time, only to buy AA one more year before he's tired.

 

Trying to blame him for anything is stupid at this point. AA took our future, the franchise's hope, and put it in 5 aging players with backloaded contracts

[Boxcar]

Not only does the manager share in the blame for that, the fact that Gibbons has never had a team that DOESN'T suck at baseball (besides maybe the extremely mediocre '06 team) says it all about him. Again, nobody else wanted him, and his hiring was 100% an arrogant show-off move by Fat Alice. "This team is so stacked, they can win even with Gibbons as the manager! I'm a genius!" was probably his thought process. Totally blew up in his face, they both need to go.

 

'06 and '08 were playoff teams in any other division.

[Anemic0ffense]

Of course they have a choice. They SHOULD fire AA, but they will, at worst, fire the coaching staff. Too bad, they are not the root of the problem.

 

I only said they have no choice because if they want money (and of course they do), they will have no choice because the ticket sales they have gotten this year, will not be there next year if they stand pat

[Angrioter]

This team could lose 90 games, they'll have to bring someone else in even if Gibby's not at fault. This is one of the biggest trainwrecks in baseball history.

 

Gibbons is here 'cause AA brought him. Gibbons will go along with AA.

[Clojojo]

This is 100% on AA

I have no problem with a new GM coming in and showing Gibbons the door

but i have an issue with a guy going on his 4th manager showcasing a losing formula

If Rogers has any sense they go after a guy with PROVEN skills before increasing the payroll anymore

We needed an Epstein

We got a Clown

[fapaholic]

I don't think this is all on Gibby, feel kind of bad for him now actually.

 

Anyway, this is a joke of a team right now and not just on the field.

 

If there's any house cleaning to be done it should start at the highest levels starting with Beeston, AA and whomever else is upstairs with any influence.

 

This organization needs new leadership everywhere and someone who's dedicated to changing the organizations culture or whatever you want to call it.

 

I'd do it asap, but that's probably not going to happen.

[OtisNixonFan]

Sal Fasano to GM.

[Deadpool]

It is time to fire Gibbons. He obviously can not manage a team to a winning record. He should never have been hired in the first place. We fired him before and its time to fire him again. Someone needs to be held accountable for this crap on the field and he is a part of the problem.

 

In John Gibbons' first stint with the Jays he managed 3 full seasons (and parts of 2 more). Of the 3 full seasons he managed, he had winning records in 2 of them (.537 and .512).

 

So, y'know. Maybe you're full of s***?

[Daniel Labude]

In John Gibbons' first stint with the Jays he managed 3 full seasons (and parts of 2 more). Of the 3 full seasons he managed, he had winning records in 2 of them (.537 and .512).

 

So, y'know. Maybe you're full of s***?

 

What about our stacked team this year. Oh yeah thats right he f***ing sucks. Hell Cito at age 90 is better than Gibbons at anytime.

[Boxcar]

This all brings me back to listening to PTS on the way home from work during the Farrell saga and hearing those clowns clamoring for Joe Torre. Obviously they never saw the end of his managing career where he was making awful decision after awful decision in LA, or how he never had a season of more than 90 wins prior to 1996 (first year with the Yankees.)

 

Terry Francona is another guy people were clamoring for, and he lost 90 games twice in four seasons with Philly, and never had a winning record. He was out of managing from 2001-2003, then becomes a sensation when he's in charge of a very good team. Bunch of nonsense. I like Gibbons because I feel he doesn't take s***, he's laid back and doesn't panic, manages bullpens and platoons players properly, and isn't a big fan of the bunt. I fail to see how any of this is on him. He's not playing the games.

[Boxcar]

What about our stacked team this year. Oh yeah thats right he f***ing sucks. Hell Cito at age 90 is better than Gibbons at anytime.

 

Can we report someone for being offensively stupid?

[Dr Negative]

How is it Gibbons's fault that our best starting pitcher is Esmil Rogers?

[Angrioter]

This all brings me back to listening to PTS on the way home from work during the Farrell saga and hearing those clowns clamoring for Joe Torre. Obviously they never saw the end of his managing career where he was making awful decision after awful decision in LA, or how he never had a season of more than 90 wins prior to 1996 (first year with the Yankees.)

 

Terry Francona is another guy people were clamoring for, and he lost 90 games twice in four seasons with Philly, and never had a winning record. He was out of managing from 2001-2003, then becomes a sensation when he's in charge of a very good team. Bunch of nonsense. I like Gibbons because I feel he doesn't take s***, he's laid back and doesn't panic, manages bullpens and platoons players properly, and isn't a big fan of the bunt. I fail to see how any of this is on him. He's not playing the games.

 

respect in the dugout

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[jaysblue]

Gibbons is here 'cause AA brought him. Gibbons will go along with AA.

 

+1

 

I don't think AA fires Gibbons, because that proves that he was at fault to begin with by bringing him in to manage the team. It's not Gibbon's fault at all - he's supposed to have a good team to work with and really a lot of those players have underachieved greatly this season. If AA gets fired, then I could see a new GM bringing in his own guy to manage.

[Angrioter]

Remember the game in Cleveland earlier this year when legendary manager Terry Francona left a clearly gassed Masterson out to issue 2 consecutive walks and then a 2-run single on his 120th pitch of the game in the 7th inning, losing the game?

 

The managers decisions haven't so much weight to the end of a 162-game season.

This team suck, his GM suck. end of the story.

[Angrioter]

+1

 

I don't think AA fires Gibbons, because that proves that he was at fault to begin with by bringing him in to manage the team. It's not Gibbon's fault at all - he's supposed to have a good team to work with and really a lot of those players have underachieved greatly this season. If AA gets fired, then I could see a new GM bringing in his own guy to manage.

 

Omar Minaya + Manny Acta? lol

A damn Nightmare

[jaysblue]

Hell yes. He does not know how to motive the players, manage the bullpen, or instill the basic fundamentals of baseball that is nonexistent on this team.

 

Gibbons has managed the bullpen fine - other than yesterday but considering how bad the rotation has been and how overworked the BP has been, I can't fault him for the entire season. As for motivating the players, I don't know the type of impact that would have. Pulling a Tim Johnson won't have an impact and with the group the Jays have and the vets, I don't think Gibbons needs to motivate anyone. He has always been a laid back manager and he has always shown faith in his players by giving them ample opportunities to prove themselves and to get back on track.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

It is time to fire Gibbons. He obviously can not manage a team to a winning record. He should never have been hired in the first place. We fired him before and its time to fire him again. Someone needs to be held accountable for this crap on the field and he is a part of the problem.

 

If AA was on top of things he'd have fired him in May. This is the common theme though, AA doesn't deal with his mistakes very well ( eg Gibbons, Bonofocio, Johnson ). So the way this plays out is AA gets fired end of season. His replacement will drop Gibbons and Johnson immediately. And given that the new GM has a fresh start to change the team, I think Arencebia will be released as well. AA is pretty much forcing managements hand by refusing to address trouble spots as they occur.

 

The only way this doesn't play out is if AA makes decisive moves NOW. His job is on the line this month.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Yeah, let's all not blame Gibbons for his role in failing to motivate the team and cut down on the stupid mistakes, and enabling the cancerous environment of the clubhouse. Awesome.

 

If a manager mattered as little as some of you claim, no team would ever waste the money hiring one, and the players could just manage themselves.