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Yep, he wouldn't because the inning ends once the force out occurs. From the rules "... such hit entitles the batter to a home run when he shall have touched all bases legally." The batter can't complete the bases if the inning is over.

 

A home run consists of more than hitting the ball over the fence.

 

It's actually an appeal play and not a force out even though the runner was forced to second base. The batter is actually credited with a single and not a fielder's choice. On a force play it would be a FC.

 

And no, I didnt lie. Lol. I did notice that on my copy and paste the little green checks didn't show up. I have the link still, if that works??

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Also could a fielder come in..... stand 3 feet away from the batter, between the batter and the pitcher, as to obstruct the batters view of the pitch and then just jump out way as the pitch comes in, thus giving the batter almost no time to react?

 

9:01c. This would not be allowed. The umpire would call time, even if the batter didn't ask for it, which he would.

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I did this earlier today got 6/10. Was surprised at the ones I got wrong, interesting stuff.

 

LOL @ Michael Young getting 3/10, and Aaron Boone at 1/10. A monkey could get 5/10.

 

f*** you I only got 4 right!

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YOUR SCORE

100%

You answered 10 out of the 10 questions correctly (shown in bold).

Total Participants: 225091

Average Score: 0%

 

Nice work, kirksaw. I figured you'd get at least 8 or more right given your background.

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w00t! I managed 8/10. I was wrong on #7 and #8.

 

I won't lie; I guessed for a lot of those questions.

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Nice work, kirksaw. I figured you'd get at least 8 or more right given your background.

 

Thanks. Here's one for you and it is a total trick question. This one caused a rule change because of an accidental overthrow at the Wendlestedt Umpire School in the late 80s.

 

Runner on first is attempting to steal. Line drive is hit to right fielder who makes a diving catch. Runner from first has rounded second. The right fielder now tries to throw to first and fires the ball into the dugout.

 

Where is the runner placed?

 

Clue: runners get 2 bases from the time of the throw being released.

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Anything less than 10 for Kirksaw and I'd ask for his license back.

 

Lol. I'll give you another question. I'm looking for the pro baseball interpretation here. Ignore Baseball Canada...

 

Runner on first. Pitcher from the rubber balks as he is throwing to first base. The balk is called after the ball is released so time has not been called yet.

 

1. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner is at 3rd base when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

 

2. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner is a step away from 3rd base when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

 

3. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner has crossed home plate when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

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Nice work, kirksaw. I figured you'd get at least 8 or more right given your background.

Thanks. Here's one for you and it is a total trick question. This one caused a rule change because of an accidental overthrow at the Wendlestedt Umpire School in the late 80s.

 

Runner on first is attempting to steal. Line drive is hit to right fielder who makes a diving catch. Runner from first has rounded second. The right fielder now tries to throw to first and fires the ball into the dugout.

 

Where is the runner placed?

 

Clue: runners get 2 bases from the time of the throw being released.

 

Place him at third because he never had 2nd so he gets 2 bases from first

 

 

Lol. I'll give you another question. I'm looking for the pro baseball interpretation here. Ignore Baseball Canada...

 

Runner on first. Pitcher from the rubber balks as he is throwing to first base. The balk is called after the ball is released so time has not been called yet.

 

1. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner is at 3rd base when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

 

2. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner is a step away from 3rd base when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

 

3. The ball is overthrown and rolls down toward the outfield. The runner has crossed home plate when the right fielder picks up the ball. Place the runner.

 

2nd in all of them cuz the play is dead at the balk so he gets his one base

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The answer for the first one is tricky. He is actually awarded home even though his last legally touched base is 1b. However, if the player tags up at 1b during the dead ball, which he is still obligated to do, he is then re-awarded 3b. The reason for this is that umpires are not allowed to coach and by awarding 3b initially it is technically coaching the defense and letting them know that the runner is still in jeopardy.

 

On the balk you are correct but for the wrong reason. The ball is not dead until a fielder has possession of the ball. It is still live because the balk was called with the ball in flight. In pro baseball the ball becomes dead the moment a fielder picks up the ball and the award of 2b is given. In theory it is possible for a fielder to attempt to pick up the live ball and accidentally knock or kick the ball out of play, perhaps into the dugout. If this occurred the runner would receive the greater reward and could advance beyond 2b.

 

In international tournaments (international rules) the runner would get the base to which he had actually advanced to beyond 2b at time the ball is possessed by the defense.

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And idiotically the Baseball Canada interpretation is that the ball is alive if all runners have advanced at least a base at the time the ball is picked up. They don't want time called until all action has stopped on a continuing play. They would allow the RF to throw that runner out at 3b because he was trying to advance past his awarded base. It's really really stupid actually. It's like someone in Quebec translated the rules and didnt understand them.
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I thought people should get a kick out of this. This weekend at the tournament I worked at, in the Bantam (age 14/15) finals it was 2 out, man on third. Batter hits a soft dribbler short of the first base bag. The 1B waits for the runner and tags him for some reason. The out happens, the coach (while it's volunteer, this is still a AAA team most coaches have been around ball their whole lives) jumps out and screams that the runner crossed the plate before the tag was made. He argues with the Ump (we hired Level 3 umps and paid them extra) and they had to have a 4 man conference and didn't know the answer. They called the convener who made the correct call of the batter must reach first whether it's through a tag or force out. The coach played under protest (dropped when he realized the cost of the protest and his assistants told him he was wrong). I have the MLB rule book on my phone but didn't have my phone with me, someone else had an MLB rulebook in their car got it and I say "section 4, somewhere under how a team scores". Everyone was impressed when I was correct. Sad the s*** I can remember about baseball but forgot today was Thursday (seriously I missed an appointment today thinking it was Wednesday).
Posted
I thought people should get a kick out of this. This weekend at the tournament I worked at, in the Bantam (age 14/15) finals it was 2 out, man on third. Batter hits a soft dribbler short of the first base bag. The 1B waits for the runner and tags him for some reason. The out happens, the coach (while it's volunteer, this is still a AAA team most coaches have been around ball their whole lives) jumps out and screams that the runner crossed the plate before the tag was made. He argues with the Ump (we hired Level 3 umps and paid them extra) and they had to have a 4 man conference and didn't know the answer. They called the convener who made the correct call of the batter must reach first whether it's through a tag or force out. The coach played under protest (dropped when he realized the cost of the protest and his assistants told him he was wrong). I have the MLB rule book on my phone but didn't have my phone with me, someone else had an MLB rulebook in their car got it and I say "section 4, somewhere under how a team scores". Everyone was impressed when I was correct. Sad the s*** I can remember about baseball but forgot today was Thursday (seriously I missed an appointment today thinking it was Wednesday).

 

so (assuming there are 2 outs) beating the tag (like, getting tagged after the run scores) to score a run doesn't apply for the batter until he actually passes first, he must actually reach first in order for his team to score??

 

im pretty sure I botched this call in the past. is the rule different in softball? oh boy..

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so (assuming there are 2 outs) beating the tag (like, getting tagged after the run scores) to score a run doesn't apply for the batter until he actually passes first, he must actually reach first in order for his team to score??

 

im pretty sure I botched this call in the past. is the rule different in softball? oh boy..

 

that's correct. the batter isn't a runner until he reaches first.

 

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.

(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first,

second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.

EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a

play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first

base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is

declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases

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