2013 draft

[Laika]

Yeah, that's right. He has Meadows - Frazier going 12-13

 

[Angrioter]

I'd definitely prefer JP Crawford or Dominic Smith.

 

Being said, I've never seen any of them play and I'm basically just a keyboard warrior who likes to think that he knows more than he actually does.

 

lol

[ace3113]

Frazier's not getting out of the top 10.

 

Oh man, as much as I respect Keith Law's opinion he must be smoking some good stuff today with his first mock draft. Who knows, maybe he's heard something we don't know, but until I know what that is wow. Jays take Reese McGuire at 10 and pass on Clint Frazier who falls to 13. If AA did that I would rage.

 

 

10

Reese McGuire

POS: C

B/T: L/R

HT: 6-1

WT: 190

School: Kentwood HS (Kent, Wash.)

Analysis: I've heard the Blue Jays could take Ball or Meadows with this pick. I would expect them to be opportunistic on any player who was supposed to go higher than this and falls, which could mean Frazier.

 

13

Clint Frazier

POS: OF

B/T: R/R

HT: 6-1

WT: 190

School: Loganville (Ga.) HS

Analysis: Frazier and Meadows falling this far seems odd to me, but there's a flight to safety in the top 10, with teams expressing stronger preferences for college players over prep kids. That could certainly change in the next three weeks after scouting departments get into their draft rooms. The Padres would also consider Hunter Renfroe with this pick or they might cut a deal with a prep arm, an approach that worked very well for them last year when they nabbed prep lefty Max Fried at No. 7 overall.

[KSaw]

Mock drafts are all over the place. I've seen many that have Stanek falling to the Jays at 10th. There are many that have Wilson in the top 15, while Law has him 26th. Every year we are all shocked when the draft takes place. It's so hard to predict.

[KSaw]

I would be surprised in Toronto didn't draft a college player though. The system is in need of some good talent that can reach New Hampshire quickly.

[Daniel Labude]

I would be surprised in Toronto didn't draft a college player though. The system is in need of some good talent that can reach New Hampshire quickly.

 

Frazier and Meadows should be the pick if they are still there at 10...if they skip Frazier I would be pissed.

[Captain Adama]

I would be surprised in Toronto didn't draft a college player though. The system is in need of some good talent that can reach New Hampshire quickly.

 

What the system needs, is a hitter who can actually hit.

[KSaw]

What the system needs, is a hitter who can actually hit.

 

Then you're hoping that Renfroe or Moran slip or that they go with Peterson who is projected a few picks later?

[KSaw]

Frazier and Meadows should be the pick if they are still there at 10...if they skip Frazier I would be pissed.

 

I don't see either being available but again, mocks are all off the map. Law has Stanek top 10, while Sickles has him 27th. That's just an example.

 

I think Moran might slip. Maybe Shipley or Stanek are available. AA loves his pitchers.

[Abomination]

Oh man, as much as I respect Keith Law's opinion he must be smoking some good stuff today with his first mock draft. Who knows, maybe he's heard something we don't know, but until I know what that is wow. Jays take Reese McGuire at 10 and pass on Clint Frazier who falls to 13. If AA did that I would rage.

 

I'm really digging what I've read so far about McGuire. He's supposed to have excellent defense and receiving skills, and a bat probably similar to Ruiz (my comparison based on what I've read, may be wrong). I wouldn't be at all upset with us taking him. With that said, it's hard to get a potential big bat like Frazier, especially when it combines some wheels on top of it. Can we really go wrong with either guy?

 

A few quick google scouting reports (that aren't behind subscriptions). Perhaps if anyone has any other good ones they can post them:

 

McGuire:

http://bigleaguefutures.net/1/2012/12/16/scouting-report-reese-mcguire/

http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/19/taking-a-look-at-the-top-catching-prospects-in-the-2013-mlb-draft-reese-mcguire/

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2013/5/16/4333946/2013-phillies-draft-preview-reese-mcguire

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/preps/2013/05/16/movin-on-up-could-mcguire-end-up-being-the-next-johnny-bench/

 

Frazier:

http://baseballprospectnation.com/2013/04/26/scouting-report-clint-frazier-of/

http://bigleaguefutures.net/1/2013/02/24/scouting-report-clint-frazier/

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20444

[GD]

1.) Frazier 2.) Meadows 3.) Smith 4.) Stanek 5.) Renfroe 6.) Crawford 7.) Moran 8.) Shipley 9.) McGuire 10.) Gonzalez 11.) Peterson 12.) Stewart

 

That's probably my draft board right now of people who I've seen fall to us in mock drafts.

[theblujay]

I haven't been following this very closely, but please AA, please draft someone who can hit.

[z3r0s]

1.) Frazier 2.) Meadows 3.) Smith 4.) Stanek 5.) Renfroe 6.) Crawford 7.) Moran 8.) Shipley 9.) McGuire 10.) Gonzalez 11.) Peterson 12.) Stewart

 

That's probably my draft board right now of people who I've seen fall to us in mock drafts.

 

Not a bad list, I think your a bit higher on Crawford that I am. Don't like some of the stuff I read about his bat.

[ace3113]

I don't see either being available but again, mocks are all off the map. Law has Stanek top 10, while Sickles has him 27th. That's just an example.

 

I think Moran might slip. Maybe Shipley or Stanek are available. AA loves his pitchers.

 

Law has said however that his mock picks are not projections but based on info he's heard surrounding each of those teams.

[GD]

Not a bad list, I think your a bit higher on Crawford that I am. Don't like some of the stuff I read about his bat.

 

You're most likely right, I just like the kid and we could probably use an SS prospect that can stick there. If we sign that Gudino kid though I probably wouldn't want him as much. It's more of a need pick.

[ace3113]

I'm really digging what I've read so far about McGuire. He's supposed to have excellent defense and receiving skills, and a bat probably similar to Ruiz (my comparison based on what I've read, may be wrong). I wouldn't be at all upset with us taking him. With that said, it's hard to get a potential big bat like Frazier, especially when it combines some wheels on top of it. Can we really go wrong with either guy?

 

A few quick google scouting reports (that aren't behind subscriptions). Perhaps if anyone has any other good ones they can post them:

 

McGuire:

http://bigleaguefutures.net/1/2012/12/16/scouting-report-reese-mcguire/

http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/19/taking-a-look-at-the-top-catching-prospects-in-the-2013-mlb-draft-reese-mcguire/

http://www.thegoodphight.com/2013/5/16/4333946/2013-phillies-draft-preview-reese-mcguire

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/preps/2013/05/16/movin-on-up-could-mcguire-end-up-being-the-next-johnny-bench/

 

Frazier:

http://baseballprospectnation.com/2013/04/26/scouting-report-clint-frazier-of/

http://bigleaguefutures.net/1/2013/02/24/scouting-report-clint-frazier/

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20444

 

I loved everything I've read about McGuire except for the bat, and from what I saw at the PG Classic (granted it's an old viewing), I was not that impressed. Then there's the history of high school catchers taken in the first round not really panning out, and the fact that this draft is deep in high school catches and I think we can get a pretty good guy in the 2nd or 3rd round. I'm also more confident in this front office's ability to identify pitchers than hitters given their early results. I wouldnt mind McGuire, but he wouldnt be my first choice personally.

[IronLadle]

I hope were not taking Smith with the 10th overall pick, seems like a waste.

[GD]

I hope were not taking Smith with the 10th overall pick, seems like a waste.

 

How is Smith a waste?

[Boxcar]

I'd be really happy with Smith @ 10.

[Boxcar]

Holy crap, for a college guy Moran looks so scrawny and awkward while hitting. Not a fan based on the short video I watched. Dom Smith looks a lot more polished.

[Caper]

I remember watching last years draft.... All the players had these ridiculous comps...like Barry Bonds, Pujols or Clemens... I forget who they were exactly, but all the comps were to these great MLB players. Then the Jays picked DJ Davis and his comp was Juan Pierre.

[Boxcar]

I remember watching last years draft.... All the players had these ridiculous comps...like Barry Bonds, Pujols or Clemens... I forget who they were exactly, but all the comps were to these great MLB players. Then the Jays picked DJ Davis and his comp was Juan Pierre.

 

Yeah, watching the draft while listening to a borderline retard like Harold Reynolds is pretty painful.

[GD]

Stewart's the top high school pitcher in the draft, I think you have to take him unless somebody else falls. I like Peterson too, he can really hit and has a good approach.

 

I agree with Frazier at #1, he can hit and has an idea at the plate. He's not going to fall though.

 

I've seen a couple drafts with Frazier dropping to us so I figured I might as well include him. My #1 option that I honestly believe will be there is Austin Meadows, I really like the kid, and Dom Smith is really great, too.

 

I remember watching last years draft.... All the players had these ridiculous comps...like Barry Bonds, Pujols or Clemens... I forget who they were exactly, but all the comps were to these great MLB players. Then the Jays picked DJ Davis and his comp was Juan Pierre.

 

You realize the comps are of player style and not caliber, right? Some of the comps are lazy but it's not an insult to Davis or anything.

[GD]

You're right on what comps are for, but he's referring to the MLB Network use of them.

 

You'd have a big power pitcher and they'd compare him to Randy Johnson, while a black high school outfielder with power was comped to Ken Griffey Jr. It was brutal and surely misled a lot of casual fans trying to get into the draft stuff.

 

This was Harold Reynolds doing it? Now I'm starting to get the picture lol. I wasn't watching last year, only following.

[IronLadle]

How is Smith a waste?

 

I don't think he's waste, just don't like the idea of a 6'0 ft, high school first basemen with questionable power at the 10 spot. Would much rather select a high ceiling, premium position player instead.

[GD]

I don't think he's waste, just don't like the idea of a 6'0 ft, high school first basemen with questionable power at the 10 spot. Would much rather select a high ceiling, premium position player instead.

 

A high ceiling premium position player available at #10 like....?

[Angrioter]

What the system needs, is a hitter who can actually hit.

 

Pillar? Christian Lopes?

[Captain Adama]

Pillar? Christian Lopes?

 

Sorry, somewhat skeptical on Pillar. He looked pretty good when I saw him, but I'd bet he doesn't hit his .330 average in the bigs.

 

Wow, one solid hitter with a good age/level ratio in the system and he's in Lo-A with a ghastly walk-to-K ratio so far.

 

Wow there's two, we need more hitters.

[theblujay]

What day is the draft?

[theblujay]

Sorry, somewhat skeptical on Pillar. He looked pretty good when I saw him, but I'd bet he doesn't hit his .330 average in the bigs.

 

Wow, one solid hitter with a good age/level ratio in the system and he's in Lo-A with a ghastly walk-to-K ratio so far.

 

Wow there's two, we need more hitters.

 

It is ridiculous that we have barely any good hitters in our system. You would think one of the position players we took high in the last few years (like Anderson, Thon, Smith Jr, ect.) would have turned out to be decent.