2013 draft

[cornelius woodenfeet]

who are you hoping the jays take come this draft? im crossing my balls that they get a shot at frazier. i heard they they had a lot of interest in austin wilson, and jp crawford could draw their interest as well. although, we met our jp quota already so thats out. anybody mind if i swear a little here???...f***ing beede is 12-0 prick head, shoulda signed him, damn!!!!

[kcjaysfan]

im crossing my balls

 

Be careful you don't suffer testicular torsion.

[TO1]

Please no Wilson. Another toolsy kid with hit tool questions. I already had enough of that s***. The Jays farm is riddled with guys like that. Maybe not as much power, but the power will never play up unless he hits anyways.

Frazier will be long gone by 10. Isn't happening.

 

At #10 pick:

Dominic Smith (best HS hitter)

Johnathan Denney (best hitting Catcher in draft)

JP Crawford (best overall SS in draft)

 

 

Beede is going top 3 from College in 2014, by everything I've seen lately. Cole Wiper (RHP) was a 14th round pick in 2011 by the Jays that's also expected to go in the 1st round in 2014. Kris Bryant was the Jays 18th pick in 2010 and will go top 10 this year. s*** happens. If guys don't want to sign then their really isn't a thing you can't do about it.

Beede had no intention of signing. He wanted 3mil before the draft. Jays offered 1.9 mil (about slot). Then with a week remaining to sign the kid they upped their offer to 2.5 mil and Beede instantly upped what he wanted to 3.5 mil according to Baseball America. So fuk him.

[Clomero]

does it really matter at this point

AA has proven he cannot evaluate minor league talent. I can't name one superstar he has groomed and or traded for through the minors. Deck? Beede? Norris? Stroman aka Pedman?

We need a new scouting department and fast

[Captain Adama]

Please no Wilson. Another toolsy kid with hit tool questions. I already had enough of that s***. The Jays farm is riddled with guys like that. Maybe not as much power, but the power will never play up unless he hits anyways.

Frazier will be long gone by 10. Isn't happening.

 

At #10 pick:

Dominic Smith (best HS hitter)

Johnathan Denney (best hitting Catcher in draft)

JP Crawford (best overall SS in draft)

 

 

Beede is going top 3 from College in 2014, by everything I've seen lately. Cole Wiper (RHP) was a 14th round pick in 2011 by the Jays that's also expected to go in the 1st round in 2014. Kris Bryant was the Jays 18th pick in 2010 and will go top 10 this year. s*** happens. If guys don't want to sign then their really isn't a thing you can't do about it.

Beede had no intention of signing. He wanted 3mil before the draft. Jays offered 1.9 mil (about slot). Then with a week remaining to sign the kid they upped their offer to 2.5 mil and Beede instantly upped what he wanted to 3.5 mil according to Baseball America. So fuk him.

 

If I had to choose from those 3, Denney is my choice. Can hit (with some power) and field at a premieum position.

 

I know lots of scouts are in doubt about how much power smith would.develop. You kinda want that at an offensive position.

[GD]

I swear that I already started this thread.

 

I want Denney, Bryant, McGuire, Manea, JP Crawford, etc. With our second rounder, Martinez and/or Covey would be GREAT.

[TO1]

If I had to choose from those 3, Denney is my choice. Can hit (with some power) and field at a premieum position.

 

I know lots of scouts are in doubt about how much power smith would.develop. You kinda want that at an offensive position.

 

Smith did a lot better at the showcase HR competitions last year than Meadows did.

Perfect game USA says his power is already plus, especially to left center field. He is almost impossible to strike out in HS. At the end of the day hit the gym over the next 2 years put on another 15 lbs and there's another 20-30 ft average on fly balls. You can somewhat teach power through workouts over time. But natural hitters are not made, their born. You either have it or you don't. And there is no HS hitter more pure than Smith this year. Perfect game USA and a few others I saw keep stating batting title type hitting skills. That's a lot more rare than power prospects that are a dime a dozen every year and almost none go anywhere b/c they can't make contact to begin with.

 

I like Denney as well, but his game calling and receiving skills are not as advanced as some of the other HS catchers this year, so there is no guarantee he sticks at catcher long term. Right now his glowing reports on defence come on his arm strength (1.8-2.0s pop times to 2nd) more than anything else. Denney's bat is not pure either. He's a huge power guy, with plus bat speed, a short stroke and a good hit tool for a catcher.

[cornelius woodenfeet]

im not too worried about that, i took some vitain C a few years back.....thanks though.

[TheHurl]

Smith did a lot better at the showcase HR competitions last year than Meadows did.

Perfect game USA says his power is already plus, especially to left center field. He is almost impossible to strike out in HS. At the end of the day hit the gym over the next 2 years put on another 15 lbs and there's another 20-30 ft average on fly balls. You can somewhat teach power through workouts over time. But natural hitters are not made, their born. You either have it or you don't. And there is no HS hitter more pure than Smith this year. Perfect game USA and a few others I saw keep stating batting title type hitting skills. That's a lot more rare than power prospects that are a dime a dozen every year and almost none go anywhere b/c they can't make contact to begin with.

 

I like Denney as well, but his game calling and receiving skills are not as advanced as some of the other HS catchers this year, so there is no guarantee he sticks at catcher long term. Right now his glowing reports on defence come on his arm strength (1.8-2.0s pop times to 2nd) more than anything else. Denney's bat is not pure either. He's a huge power guy, with plus bat speed, a short stroke and a good hit tool for a catcher.

 

Is this Ace from the old board. I really and trying to get him and Niko to post here. Two of the most knowledgeable draft posters.

[TO1]

2nd round I'd be happy with any of the following: Drew Ward, Robert Kaminsky, Travis Demeritte , Chris Okey, Jonah Wesely, Keegan Thompson, Dustin Peterson (DJ Peterson's younger brother), Hunter Harvey or Kyle Serrano.

Some would need to slip to get there, but what the heck.

[TO1]

I'm under the name TO1 now.

Niko10 was my last name from the MLB Jays forum that went to s***.

[TheHurl]

I'm under the name TO1 now.

Niko10 was my last name from the MLB Jays forum that went to s***.

 

Glad to see you here. I've sent a message to ACE as well.

[theblujay]

I just hope they pick someone who can hit.

[SpeedyGose]

I swear that I already started this thread.

 

I want Denney, Bryant, McGuire, Manea, JP Crawford, etc. With our second rounder, Martinez and/or Covey would be GREAT.

 

I read that Manaea's velo is way down right now, a little worrisome

[Captain Adama]

I read that Manaea's velo is way down right now, a little worrisome

 

If the results are there, then he's still gonna be gone long before the Jays have a chance to draft him.

[TO1]

If the results are there, then he's still gonna be gone long before the Jays have a chance to draft him.

 

He got all this buzz after the Cape going into this year. But he hasn't met expectations this year. Velo down a bit, command has been nothing like it was at the Cape. Some reports I read even question his velo due to some effort in his delivery.

I have my doubts on him, when his buzz is mostly based on a sample size of a couple of months over a time that happened a while ago. Not much before and not close after.

[GD]

It's probably due to overuse.

[ace3113]

I'm hoping that one of the college pitchers (Stanek, Shipley, Manaea) or the Georgia high school outfielders (Meadows, Frazier) fall, but beyond that I'm not sure who I want.

 

I've been hearing the Jays really heavily scouting two players in particular: Phil Bickford and Trey Ball.

 

Bickford is a big projectable high school righty (6'4 200+) with a plus fastball and a big sweeping slider, who has been really rocketing up the draft boards. Right now he's throwing 92-94 steady, and touching 97 with a smooth delivery. Video of him striking out 16 guys by Bullpen Banter.

 

 

Trey Ball is almost guaranteed to be drafted as a pitcher now. I was really weary of taking him before because of his rawness, but recent reports and viewings have really impressed me about his potential on the mound. He's a legit 6'6 with easy projection and a free and easy delivery. His athleticism allows him to repeat his delivery perfectly (unlike many tall hs pitchers). He's already sitting 91-93 now, but figures to add a few ticks (93-95?) down the line. He also has an advanced changeup, a really good one in fact, considering he's a high schooler and the fact that he's split his time between the mound and the field. It's probably a 50-55 right now and projects for me to be a 60. His curve is kind of slurvy but it works for him, it's probably a 45 now and a future 55. This guy is a lefty with the chance for three above average to better pitches. I can definitely see now, why people like Law, Rawnsley, and Manuel, Callis think he's the first prep arm off the board.

 

[TO1]

Phil Bickford over Trey Ball, by a lot.

I'm not a fan of Trey. Too raw. Too much to develop for me (secondaries, command, weight).

Very thin bone structure, usually very hard to put on weight needed to add velo and hold it deep into games.

I don't care about his bat. There are better options at #10 if you want a bat that's more advanced.

[Caper]

What happens if Appel refuses to sign again? What leverage does he have? Is he a free agent? How does that work?

[ace3113]

I swear that I already started this thread.

 

I want Denney, Bryant, McGuire, Manea, JP Crawford, etc. With our second rounder, Martinez and/or Covey would be GREAT.

 

Second round I want Riley Unroe (SS), Nick Longhi (1B) or Andrew Church (RHP). Three of my favorite players in the draft.

Riley Unroe

Position: SS

Height: 6-0

Weight: 180

Bats/Throws: B-L

Birthdate: Aug. 3, 1995

High School: Desert Ridge

City, State: Mesa, Ariz.

Commitment: Southern California

Projected Draft Round: 1S-2

 

A popular catch-all phrase that is prevalent in college football recruiting is “Athlete.” It simply means that the player’s future position is to be determined but that his athletic skills are good enough to play any number of skill positions. On a football field that usually means defensive back, wide receiver, running back, and even quarterback in the right systems. Baseball needs some similar catch-all phrase to describe players who have the athleticism to stay in the middle of the field (shortstop, second base, centerfield), but whose future position is still to be determined, perhaps not for many years. If for no other reason, it will make the annual scouting debates about whether high school shortstops can stay at shortstop in the long term less ubiquitous and predictable. I’ve often used the phrase “Premium Defensive Position” to describe middle of the field athletes, but that usually includes catcher as well, so that is less than ideal. Regardless, Arizona high school shortstop Riley Unroe, one of the fastest rising prospects in the country heading into the final six weeks prior to the draft, would be a perfect candidate for a new baseball “Athlete” category. It’s that athleticism, and improved power and bat speed at the plate, that gives Unroe a good chance to go among the top 50-60 picks in June. Unroe has a tightly wound, quick twitch 6-foot, 180-pound build, although he might be a bit shorter than his listed height. He’s a plus runner in the 60, having run anywhere from 6.40 at the Perfect Game National Showcase to plenty of 6.5s for area scouts to a 6.61 at the Tournament of Stars. He has the body type that is not going to lose speed as matures physically. Unroe graded out as a 10 defensively at the Perfect Game National Showcase while playing not only the middle infield but centerfield as well. He has a solid average to fringy plus arm from all positions and has touched 90 mph off the mound as a reliever. While Unroe doesn’t have the classic “Latin Style” infield actions that so many scouts seem to think are necessary to play shortstop at the highest levels, he is quick and athletic to the ball, with the hands and balance for the middle infield. I asked one area scout recently about Unroe’s defensive position and his answer was a perfect hedge in scout talk cliche: “I’m not sure he’s a shortstop, but he’s versatile and can play multiple positions. Some guys like him as a second baseman and others think centerfield is possible.” What has separated and elevated Unroe this spring has been his all-around improvement with the bat. A switch-hitter, Unroe struggled at times from the right side against quality pitching last summer as his swing lacked fluidity and timing, especially compared to his crisp, short and fast left-handed swing. Not only has Unroe improved his swing mechanics from the right side this spring, some scouts say that he might even have more natural power from the right side. He has consistently crushed the ball left-handed all spring, too, and is currently hitting .556-10-58 with 13 doubles, 5 triples and 20 stolen bases for the 22-5 Desert Ridge High School team. Unroe also has an impressive 13-to-4 walk-to-strikeout ratio in 121 plate appearances. As seems to be happening more and more frequently in the Arizona prospect ranks (which includes Cody Bellinger and Brantley Bell in the 2013 class), Unroe is the son of a former big leaguer. Tim Unroe was a 28th round senior sign pick out of Lewis College in Illinois in 1992 but rose quickly through the minors as a power hitting corner infielder and had five separate cups of coffee in the big leagues between 1995 and 2000.

[TheHurl]

I just started following Chris Crawford, he doesn't appear to actually get to many games but the site isn't horrible. He just updated a mock that I think looks somewhat realistic.

 

http://mlbdraftinsider.com/2013/05/the-mock-2013-volume-iv/

 

ick Team Name Pos. School

01 Houston Mark Appel RHP Stanford

02 Chicago-NL Jonathan Gray RHP Oklahoma

03 Colorado Kris Bryant 3B/RF San Diego

04 Minnesota Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS (GA)

05 Cleveland Colin Moran 3B UNC

06 Miami Reese McGuire C Lakewood HS (WA)

07 Boston Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS (GA)

08 Kansas City Sean Manaea LHP Indiana State

09 Pittsburgh Kohl Stewart RHP St. Pius X HS (TX)

10 Toronto Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS (IN)

11 New York-NL Austin Wilson OF Stanford

12 Seattle Hunter Renfroe OF Mississippi State

13 San Diego J.P. Crawford SS Lakewood HS (CA)

14 Pittsburgh Braden Shipley RHP Nevada

15 Arizona Ryan Eades RHP LSU

16 Philadelphia Jon Denney C Yukon HS (OK)

17 Chicago-AL Dominic Smith 1B Serra HS (CA)

18 Los Angeles-NL Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS (SC)

19 St. Louis Aaron Judge OF Fresno State

20 Detroit Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas

21 Tampa Bay Marco Gonzales LHP Gonzaga

22 Baltimore Alex Gonzalez RHP Oral Roberts

23 Texas Dustin Peterson IF Gilbert HS (AZ)

24 Oakland Andrew Thurman RHP UC Irvine

25 San Francisco Trevor Williams RHP Arizona State

26 New York-AL Ryan Boldt OF Red Wing HS (MN)

27 Cincinnati Hunter Harvey RHP Bandys HS (NC)

28 St. Louis Cody Reed LHP Northwest Mississippi CC

29 Tampa Bay Tim Anderson SS East Central CC (MS)

30 Texas Billy McKinney OF Plano West HS (TX)

31 Atlanta Travis Demeritte 3B Winder Barrow HS (GA)

32 New York-AL Jonathon Crawford RHP Florida

33 New York-AL Blake Taylor LHP Dana Hills HS (CA)

34 Kansas City Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame

35 Miami Connor Jones RHP Great Bridge HS (VA)

36 Arizona Josh Hart OF Parkview HS (GA)

37 Baltimore DJ Peterson 1B New Mexico

38 Cincinnati Michael Lorenzen OF/RHP Cal-State Fullerton

39 Detroit Phil Bickford RHP Oaks Christian HS (CA)

[ace3113]

Nick Longhi

Position: 1B/OF/LHP

Height: 6-2

Weight: 208

Bats/Throws: R-L

Birthdate: Aug. 16, 1995

High School: Venice Senior

City, State: Venice, Fla.

Commitment: Louisiana State

Projected Draft Round: 2-3

 

We don’t bat an eye in baseball, so to speak, when we see a right-handed thrower step into the left handed hitter’s batter’s box to swing. In fact, it’s seen as a very positive thing for any player at any level. Approximately 70-percent of the pitchers in Major League Baseball are right-handed, and most hitters perform their best off pitchers who are throwing with their opposite hand due to the direction the pitcher’s breaking ball is moving. The opposite, though, when a left-handed thrower hits right-handed, is extremely rare. According to one source, there have been only 57 bats right, throws left non-pitchers in Major League history. Surprisingly, there have probably been even fewer left-handed throwers who were switch-hitters. The most accomplished R/L player of all-time is unquestionably Hall of Famer Rickey Henderson. Henderson has been quoted as saying the reason he hit right handed instead of left handed was, “All my friends were right-handed and swung from the right side, so that’s just the way I thought it was supposed to be done.” Reds outfielder Ryan Ludwick is the most prominent active player who is a member of the R/L club. That brings us to Florida high school first base/outfielder Nick Longhi, potentially the next big league hitter belonging in the exclusive R/L club. Longhi’s story on how he came to hit “backwards” is closely tied to the game of golf. Many may recall the story of how golf great Phil Mickelson, who does everything in the world right handed except swing a golf club, learned how to swing a golf club as a small child by standing in front of his father, a golf instructor, and mirroring his swing. Longhi’s father, Tommy, is a former PGA professional who has worked in golf his entire life. Longhi’s mother, Debbie, also played golf on the Pro Futures Tour. However, Longhi’s story of learning to swing isn’t as fascinating as Mickelson’s. “I was just too cheap to buy him left-handed clubs when he was a little kid,” Tommy Longhi relates. “I had right-handed clubs sitting around all over the place for free and he was growing through clubs like he was clothes. When Nick started playing baseball, he went straight to hitting right-handed just like golf. I didn’t play baseball, it didn’t even occur to me that Nick would!” Swinging the bat right-handed is what Longhi does best on the baseball field and what could get him drafted inside the first 100 picks should scouts think he would give up a scholarship to Louisiana State. Longhi’s swing stands out for two things. The first is that it is one of the most mechanically fundamental and simple swings you are likely to find on a high school hitter. Because he is so strong in his hands and forearms, Longhi is able to get away with less weight shift in his lower half than most hitters while still generating outstanding raw bat speed from a short swing path. His hand load is similarly simple and understated. If Longhi were to spread out his stance a bit his approach would be very similar to another extra strong right handed hitter, Albert Pujols. Secondly, Longhi shows most of his game power from centerfield to the right field line and can probably drive the ball as hard and deep to right centerfield as any high school hitter in the 2013 class. He will turn and lift the ball frequently in batting practice and in workouts for scouts, but rarely in games. Most young hitters learn to pull and lift first and only later learn to stay behind the ball and drive it the other way. Longhi’s carrying tool with scouts is definitely his bat and offensive potential, but he is also an underrated athlete and versatile defensive player. He’s very slick around the first base bag and likely ranks only behind PG All-American Dominic Smith in the 2013 class defensively at first base among top prospects. However, Longhi has been playing more extensively in right field and even in centerfield this spring and shown a potential plus throwing arm and good instincts to the ball, though his running speed will definitely limit him to the corners at the next level. Although scouts are unlikely to have turned Longhi in as a left handed pitcher, and he has thrown less than 20 innings for Venice High School the past two springs, Louisiana State does plan on potentially using Longhi on the mound should he get to Baton Rouge. The southpaw has topped out at 91 mph this spring to go with a pretty good 73 mph curveball and a deceptive delivery that would work well as a reliever. One more thing that weighs in Longhi’s favor with the scouting community is his relative age to other high school players in the 2013 class. He is one of the youngest players in the 2013 class and won’t turn 18 until mid-August, something that more and more teams are paying attention to when considering a prospect’s entire package. It would be inappropriate not to tie Longhi’s story together without another golf reference. Before the season, Longhi and his father traveled to Orlando for Demo Day at the 2013 PGA Golf Show. Ken Griffey Jr., Fred McGriff and Ron Harper were hosting the Nike demo tent on the driving range and challenging all comers to try to top Griffey’s 298 yard drive (into a stiff wind) with the newest Nike Cobra driver. Harper even offered up a Chicago Bulls championship ring he was wearing to anyone who could outdrive Griffey. No one did until Longhi stepped up and knocked his second drive 306 yards, forcing Harper to quickly recant his offer of the ring. Hitting right-handed, of course.

 

 

Andrew Church

Position: RHP/OF

Height: 6-3

Weight: 199

Bats/Throws: R-R

Birthdate: Aug. 16, 1995

High School: Paolo Verde

City, State: Las Vegas, NV

Commitment: San Diego

Projected Draft Round: 1S-2

 

Having just been declared eligible for his senior season last week, Church hasn't been seen as much this spring as a legitimate Group 1 prospect would otherwise have been seen, yet. That is about to change, as he has reported seen his velocity climb into the mid-90s during bullpen sessions this spring. His hammer curveball that became a plus pitch for him as early as last summer and was a weapon for him when he locked up with Alabama's Kevin Davis in a great pitchers duel during the semifinals of the 17u PG World Series in Arizona last July. His changeup is also quite solid for a prep arm and he has an idea how to utilize and command his impressive arsenal. His stuff and ceiling is of the caliber that it could be argued he should be more of a 1a than the No. 2 prospect on this list, and would have been the top prospect had it not been for the impressive breakout of Shipley this spring. Keep an eye on Church over the final weeks leading up to the draft, as his late start to the season will give him limited opportunities to pitch in front of MLB decision makers this spring, but he has the stuff to make a strong impression during those opportunities, and he could make a late push into the top two rounds as a result. Church is one of the more well rounded pitching prospects you'll find in the high school ranks. He doesn't have a glaring weakness, as he commands his low 90s fastball well, throws both of his secondary pitches (a plus curveball and a solid-average changeup) for strikes consistently and shows some feel for pitching. He doesn't have any one area where he absolutely stands head and shoulders above his peers, but he's the staff ace on the Dream Team thanks to his combination of stuff and pitchability.

[Angrioter]

I'm under the name TO1 now.

Niko10 was my last name from the MLB Jays forum that went to s***.

 

Welcome bro, you're gold

[Angrioter]

I just started following Chris Crawford, he doesn't appear to actually get to many games but the site isn't horrible. He just updated a mock that I think looks somewhat realistic.

 

http://mlbdraftinsider.com/2013/05/the-mock-2013-volume-iv/

 

10 Toronto Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS (IN)

 

RAW, RAW, RAW 2 sport guy

[TheHurl]

What happens if Appel refuses to sign again? What leverage does he have? Is he a free agent? How does that work?

 

This is what BA had to say on the subject recently.

 

Appel and Oklahoma righthander Jonathan Gray have established themselves as the top two prospects in the 2012 draft. While Appel has less leverage than he did a year ago, his talent still gives him plenty of negotiating power. He should get much more than the $3.8 million he turned down from the Pirates after sliding to the No. 8 overall pick a year ago.

 

Appel’s situation isn’t really analogous to Correa’s. If Correa hadn’t gone No. 1 overall to the Astros, where the assigned pick value was $7.2 million, the perception was that he would have lasted until the Cubs at No. 6 ($3.25 million) or the Padres at No. 7 ($3 million). So it made sense for him to take a discount that still paid him more than he would have gotten otherwise, though I’ve since learned that had Houston taken Byron Buxton, the Twins might have chosen Correa at No. 2.

 

The best-case scenario for the Astros is a repeat of 2012, when they land a player worth of the No. 1 selection but save enough money to do a lot of damage in later rounds. This year, Houston’s assigned pick value is $7,790,400. If the Astros pass on Appel, he very well could be at the top of the Cubs’ draft board at No. 2, where the value is $6,708,400. The Rockies (No. 3, $5,626,400) and Twins (No. 4, $4,544,400) probably would be thrilled to have Appel and willing to move money around to add to their pick value. So he should clear well north of $4.8 million.

 

There are two good reasons that a team won’t take a hard line with Appel. First, he’s advised by the Boras Corp. Clubs legitimately fear that draftees, even college seniors, will walk away from a deal that Scott Boras doesn’t like.

 

Second, Appel could take a hard line with a club. Let’s say the Astros choose him and make him a take-it-or-leave-it $5 million offer. I agree, it would be silly to turn that much money down to re-enter the 2014 draft.

 

But Appel could decide not to sign until right before the July 13 signing deadline of 5 p.m. ET. Houston couldn’t risk spending the $2,790,400 they saved on his bonus to land other players until he was in the fold. (Update: Actually, as @jeremynygaard reminded me on Twitter, the signing deadline doesn’t apply to Appel, making it even easier for him to hold a team’s bonus pool hostage.) If the Astros spent the savings before Appel signed, they’d risk losing their next two first-round selections, including the possible No. 1 overall choice in 2014.

 

Ultimately, clubs give up leverage to draftees because they want to sign the best players available. If Houston rates Appel and Gray evenly, then it makes sense to select the guy who will accept a more team-friendly deal. But if the Astros like Appel more than any other 2013 draft prospect, I think they’ll take him and give him a bonus of $6 million or more.

[ace3113]

Phil Bickford over Trey Ball, by a lot.

I'm not a fan of Trey. Too raw. Too much to develop for me (secondaries, command, weight).

Very thin bone structure, usually very hard to put on weight needed to add velo and hold it deep into games.

I don't care about his bat. There are better options at #10 if you want a bat that's more advanced.

 

He's actually advanced a lot over the last 4 months. His velocity is steady low 90s, and he does not need to add much weight to add more velocity cause his delivery is so smooth and easy. Via natural maturation he's likely to add 3mph just because of that. His changeup is a legit plus pitch now, and his slurve is coming along very well. Pretty much all the draft pundits (PG, BA, Law, BP) agree his secondaries are very promising, and you can see even in this old video his change is very good and his slider/curve is effective. His natural athleticism also gives one confidence that whatever he learns he'll be able to translate to his game. As far as command, I've never heard anything negative about his command, and it would certainly not be uncommon compared to other high school players. I would not have a problem if the Jays drafted him, but like I said, I'm not really sure who I want at 10 beyond the vain hope that one of the top names drops.

[GD]

What's the deal on Shipley?

[Captain Adama]

What's the deal on Shipley?

 

He's pitching in Nevada right now. Stats are pretty good, averages 7 and a third inning per start.

 

http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/braden_shipley_756500.html

[GD]

He's pitching in Nevada right now. Stats are pretty good, averages 7 and a third inning per start.

 

http://www.nevadawolfpack.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/braden_shipley_756500.html

 

Meh, doesn't seem great or terrible.