Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 This. He was overrated before and didn't have much power even with the roids. Here's hoping he's Rajai Davis going forward. Lol he wasn't overrated at all
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Seems like somewhat a fair deal on both sides. But I also had an offer in on Marte.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 So FTD gets screwed out of his waiver spot? Nice.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 So FTD gets screwed out of his waiver spot? Nice. Aren't you supposed to clear up a spot as soon as you make a trade? He actually picked him up after he cleared waivers. So no, he didn't lose his spot.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Aren't you supposed to clear up a spot as soon as you make a trade? He actually picked him up after he cleared waivers. So no, he didn't lose his spot. The same thing just happened in BORED too. People make trades without making sure that their roster is legal and ready to accommodate the pieces they're adding. It's very annoying.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 The same thing just happened in BORED too. People make trades without making sure that their roster is legal and ready to accommodate the pieces they're adding. It's very annoying. Commissioners should not process trades that way. All trades involving MLB players can be processed through Yahoo, players should never be dropped to waivers during a trade unless a commissioner is immediately adding them to a roster via the Roster Management function. I'm of the opinion that FTD should get to keep Parker in this scenario, the onus is on pretty much anybody except him to make sure that Parker found his proper home. It didn't happen, not just for a day but for the entire waiver period. It's not FTD's responsibility to comb through transaction records to see if Parker is dangling in transaction purgatory. I'm sorry, but this should be a TS moment.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Commissioners should not process trades that way. All trades involving MLB players can be processed through Yahoo, players should never be dropped to waivers during a trade unless a commissioner is immediately adding them to a roster via the Roster Management function. I'm of the opinion that FTD should get to keep Parker in this scenario, the onus is on pretty much anybody except him to make sure that Parker found his proper home. It didn't happen, not just for a day but for the entire waiver period. It's not FTD's responsibility to comb through transaction records to see if Parker is dangling in transaction purgatory. I'm sorry, but this should be a TS moment. The problem was that I dropped the players from SG, added his players, then went to add them to JF's roster and couldn't because Semien was injured and on the DL. That kind of thing seems to happen like half the time a trade is made.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 What? I fixed my roster right when the trade was made and couldnt add Parker because he got put on waivers. Why would I create a waiver claim for a player I just traded for. FTD added him the day he cleared
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 The original issue is I had an active player on the DL, and because Yahoo is crude it would require me to drop a player despite freeing up a spot in the same trade. You're a rule-skirter.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 The original issue is I had an active player on the DL, and because Yahoo is crude it would require me to drop a player despite freeing up a spot in the same trade. The precedent for doing that kind of thing is well established, and when I pointed out it could be done legally in multiple steps NJH tried to bite me. There was no issue with the way it was processed for you. It would have went smoothly if Semien were active, but I couldn't add parker or Williams to JF's roster when I tried because he was on the DL but not DL eligible.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Also, I'm salty about this because it happened like 3 hours after an issue in BORED where Orgfiller made a trade, didn't have room for the player he acquired, responded to me like 27 hours after I asked who he was dropping (at which point I had obviously forgotten about the whole thing), didn't say anything else for a week, and then had the audacity to blame me when someone added the player he had acquired.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 I kind of regret trading Tatis. He's looking like a pimp. I feel pretty comfortable slapping a 60 FV on him right now. Still lots of risk, but he has the tools.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I think that's a great haul for Marte, who I hope sucks going forward. Lots of possible impact and Salazar alone is like 75% of the way there I'm reasonably happy with the return - lots of potential coming back. It gives me some serviceable roster pieces that are all possible keepers. I still like Salazar a fair bit, Vizcaino is a pretty good reliever, Joseph is an upgrade on some of the scrubs I was/am rostering (such a stars and scrubs roster). As for the prospects, Funkhouser looks like a dude. And I had previously written him off, but Chavis could actually be something, too.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Would anyone give a pick for Matt Bowman? He's got 15 holds, and the numbers are actually pretty good so far.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I have no idea what PECOTA's player similarity index is worth. I assume nothing. But Ronald Acuna's top-2 similar players is too fun not to post. 1. Mike Trout 2. Carlos Correa Also, Freddie Freeman at 7.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 For the record - commissioners shouldn't push trades through during the regular season in order to circumvent Yahoo rules like DL limitations. I feel like silvergums asks us to do this 5 times a year so that he doesn't have to drop a player and we normally accommodate him, for some retarded reason. No more! If you can't just do the MLB part on Yahoo then the trade is rotten. The exception is if you are trading an MLB player for purely MiLB assets, then maybe a commissioner will add him to the other team so the owner doesn't have to waiver claim the player. That's it though.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 No need to single me out sir, everyone that asked had this done for them every time! Also it really doesn't change anything in the way I do business, my deals all end in a legal roster so it's just multiple transactions now. If you want to enact the change you seem to be going for, it would require a mlb-for-mlb exchange in any deal, regardless if they'll be instantly dropped. Ahem, for the record I don't care for that idea... I don't understand any of this. It's like Donald Trump joined a fantasy baseball team and got caught colluding and then blew some hot air on Fox n Friends. Big league.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 No need to single me out sir, everyone that asked had this done for them every time! I'm singling you out mostly because you're the most recent pervert to do it. You know you're my favourite league member other than TCA.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 I'm just channeling my inner AA, whereas your apparent sundowning is very presidential imho, commander in chief! I outlined this scenario the other day and you threatened to fire me into the sun. Anyway I look forward to continuing to adhere to the rules, as always. Gentlemen! You need to be careful with your inner AA. Sometimes he's a good co-pilot but sometimes he takes control and then whoops you've gained 30 pounds and then whoops 50 and then whoops you've outsmarted yourself out of your dream job and then yikes you're creeping around playgrounds at the wrong time of day and you don't even know where you bought these khakis and all the kids say you smell like souvlaki and then WOW you invent Souvlakhis and die rich but lonely and empty inside except for all the spit roasted meats.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 It's pretty bad. The commentary is super lame... and I like GOT.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=32267 Boom. Prepare yourself for hilarity. Nick Williams at #13. Criminy.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 TIER 1: War of the Five Kings 1. Yoan Moncada, 2B, Chicago White Sox (PS Rank: 1) News from the Citadel: Striking out, reaching base and showcasing power/speed Oathkeeper: A five-tool, first-round fantasy stud Kingslayer: Ian Kinsler with a badonk Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2017 2. Brendan Rodgers, SS, Colorado Rockies (PS Rank: 6) News from the Citadel: Hitting .400 is damn impressive regardless of environment Oathkeeper: Troy Tulowitzki without the injuries Kingslayer: Still a freaking good hitter at Coors Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 3. Amed Rosario, SS, New York Mets (PS Rank: 5) News from the Citadel: Triple-A is not a challenge for him Oathkeeper: The good Jean Segura Kingslayer: Reinforcing Terry Collins’ bad habits Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 4. Victor Robles, OF, Washington Nationals (PS Rank: 4) News from the Citadel: Another level, but still no challenge Oathkeeper: A five-category stud Kingslayer: Maybe it’s only 15-homer power Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 5. Rafael Devers, 3B, Boston Red Sox (PS Rank: 8) News from the Citadel: Should be headed to Fenway shortly Oathkeeper: A top-10 third baseman until his 30s Kingslayer: A top-15 first baseman by the time he’s 27 Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 TIER 2: The Second Sons 6. Ronald Acuna, OF, Atlanta Braves (PS Rank: 26) News from the Citadel: He’s raking and stealing in Double-A before his 20th birthday Oathkeeper: A potential first-round pick Kingslayer: Michael A. Taylor Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 7. Eloy Jimenez, OF, Chicago Cubs (PS Rank: 12) News from the Citadel: This counts as a thing he did Oathkeeper: A 30-homer slugger with the average Kingslayer: A 30-homer slugger without the average Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 8. Clint Frazier, OF, New York Yankees (PS Rank: 13) News from the Citadel: Already launching walk-offs in the majors Oathkeeper: Insane bat speed yields a .280 average and 25 homers Kingslayer: Insane bat speed yields 20 homers Fantasy Impact ETA: 2017 9. Gleyber Torres, SS, New York Yankees (PS Rank: 21) News from the Citadel: His recent Tommy John surgery was a success Oathkeeper: Xander Bogaerts, but not at shortstop Kingslayer: Josh Harrison, but also not at shortstop Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 10. Franklin Barreto, SS, Oakland Athletics (PS Rank: 27) News from the Citadel: That walk-off bomb was just the beginning Oathkeeper: The new Eduardo Nunez Kingslayer: Chris Owings Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 11. Kyle Tucker, OF, Houston Astros (PS Rank: 31) News from the Citadel: If it looks like a Hunter Pence and walks like a Hunter Pence ... Oathkeeper: Well, Prime Hunter Pence (without the speed) Kingslayer: 2016 Hunter Pence and/or a lazy Hunter Pence comparison Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 12. Nick Senzel, 3B, Cincinnati Reds (PS Rank: 16) News from the Citadel: The vanilla ice cream of top prospects continues to hit the spot Oathkeeper: A top-10 third baseman Kingslayer: A top-10 third baseman Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 13. Nick Williams, OF, Philadelphia Phillies (PS Rank: 19) News from the Citadel: Still doesn’t walk, which still doesn’t matter Oathkeeper: A better Steven Souza Jr. Kingslayer: The old Steven Souza Jr. Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 14. Lewis Brinson, OF, Milwaukee Brewers (PS Rank: 17) News from the Citadel: Crushed Triple-A, struggled in the majors Oathkeeper: A four-category monster with a tolerable average Kingslayer: Keon Broxton, pretty much Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2017 TIER 3: The Small Council 15. Vladimir Guerrero Jr., 3B/1B, Toronto Blue Jays (PS Rank: 61) News from the Citadel: Straight up crushing it Oathkeeper: Maybe he sticks at third for a while Kingslayer: Maybe he doesn’t Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 16. Francisco Mejia, C, Cleveland Indians (PS Rank: 54) News from the Citadel: He might have the best hit tool in the minors? Oathkeeper: The man who will dethrone Buster Posey Kingslayer: Loses catcher eligibility before he’s 30 Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 17. Austin Meadows, OF, Pittsburgh Pirates (PS Rank: 7) News from the Citadel: Tantalizes with tools, frustrates with health Oathkeeper: Healthy Kingslayer: Hurt Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 18. Alex Reyes, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals (PS Rank: 16) News from the Citadel: Elbows are stupid Oathkeeper: Worth the wait Kingslayer: A cautionary tale Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 19. Juan Soto, OF, Washington Nationals (PS Rank: 56) News from the Citadel: And you thought Vlad Jr. was straight up crushing it Oathkeeper: A .300 hitting, 30-homer outfielder Kingslayer: He’s had 86 full-season at-bats, so Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 20. Luis Robert, OF, Chicago White Sox (PS Rank: N/A) News from the Citadel: Big-money outfielder showing big-money tools Oathkeeper: A five-category OF1 Kingslayer: Yasiel Puig Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 TIER 4: The Last Hero’s 12 Companions 21. Francis Martes, RHP, Houston Astros (PS Rank: 32) News from the Citadel: Proved he can miss MLB bats, both by K and by BB Oathkeeper: Healthy Carlos Carrasco Kingslayer: An elite reliever Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 22. Ozzie Albies, 2B, Atlanta Braves (PS Rank: 36) News from the Citadel: Stupid young, in Triple-A and hitting for more power Oathkeeper: Prime Elvis Andrus Kingslayer: Jose Peraza Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 23. J.P. Crawford, SS, Philadelphia Phillies (PS Rank: 9) News from the Citadel: He’s young for Triple-A, but yikes ... Oathkeeper: Better Orlando Arcia Kingslayer: One of our worst misses in recent memory Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 24. Willy Adames, SS, Tampa Bay Rays (PS Rank: 33) News from the Citadel: Rays fans will haaaaaaate this ranking Oathkeeper: A well-rounded SS who does a little bit of everything Kingslayer: An ok MI who doesn’t do enough of anything Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 25. Ryan McMahon, 3B/2B/1B, Colorado Rockies (PS Rank: 80) News from the Citadel: The strikeout issues look like they are in the past Oathkeeper: A .280 hitter with 25-plus bombs at a non-1B position Kingslayer: Adam Lind, but properly appreciated Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 26. Brendan McKay, 1B/LHP, Tampa Bay Rays (PS Rank: N/A) News from the Citadel: Rays fans will haaaaaaaate this ranking Oathkeeper: A top-10 first baseman Kingslayer: An all-around solid SP4 Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 27. Keston Hiura, 2B, Milwaukee Brewers (PS Rank: N/A) News from the Citadel: Turns out his elbow is fine Oathkeeper: Ninety percent of Robinson Cano Kingslayer: Ninety percent of Ian Happ the outfielder Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 28. Bo Bichette, SS, Toronto Blue Jays (PS Rank: NR) News from the Citadel: What he did to Low-A is illegal in some states Oathkeeper: Where Rafael Devers ranks Kingslayer: Where Willie Calhoun ranks Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 29. Michael Kopech, RHP, Chicago White Sox (PS Rank: 40) News from the Citadel: All of the strikeouts, all of the walks Oathkeeper: Chris Archer Kingslayer: A really good closer Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 30. A.J. Puk, LHP, Oakland Athletics (PS Rank: 59) News from the Citadel: That’s a big man Oathkeeper: Enough strikeouts to be an SP1 Kingslayer: Not enough command to be an SP3 Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 31. Brent Honeywell, RHP, Tampa Bay Rays (PS Rank: 45) News from the Citadel: Just a ho-hum week for the Futures Game MVP Oathkeeper: The best version of Alex Cobb Kingslayer: The best version of Jeremy Hellickson Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 32. Ryan Mountcastle, SS, Baltimore Orioles (PS Rank: NR) News from the Citadel: Not a shortstop, not sure it matters Oathkeeper: Daniel Murphy without the steals Kingslayer: Ben’s New Garin Cecchini Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2019 TIER 5: The Children of the Forest 33. Mitch Keller, RHP, Pittsburgh Pirates (PS Rank: 63) News from the Citadel: Healthy and making short work of High-A Oathkeeper: A high-end fantasy SP3 Kingslayer: An average fantasy SP4/5 Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 34. Leody Taveras, OF, Texas Rangers (PS Rank: 55) News from the Citadel: Holding his own in full-season ball at 18 Oathkeeper: A five-category OF star Kingslayer: More of a speedy OF4 Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 35. Jorge Alfaro, C, Philadelphia Phillies (PS Rank: 29) News from the Citadel: No one’s looked this bored in the Lehigh Valley since Bret took Marketing 101 in college Oathkeeper: The 25-homer catcher who was promised Kingslayer: The former catcher who ran Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 36. Jorge Mateo, SS/2B/CF, New York Yankees (PS Rank: 18) News from the Citadel: Double-A has invigorated the forgotten Yankee prospect Oathkeeper: Trea Turner without the batting average Kingslayer: Joey Gathright without being able to Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2018 37. Isan Diaz, SS, Milwaukee Brewers (PS Rank: 44) News from the Citadel: The stat line isn’t as pretty as last year, but the bat is still true Oathkeeper: Rougned Odor with more OBP Kingslayer: A non-descript 20-homer hitter somewhere Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 38. Walker Buehler, RHP, Los Angeles Dodgers (PS Rank: HM) News from the Citadel: Crushing Double-A ... when healthy Oathkeeper: Lance McCullers Jr. Kingslayer: Yeah, what could go wrong with a Dodgers pitcher Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2018 39. Sean Newcomb, LHP, Atlanta Braves (PS Rank: 58) News from the Citadel: He’s not a reliever! Oathkeeper: Eduardo Rodriguez in a pitcher’s park Kingslayer: He still might be a reliever Fantasy Impact ETA: Right now TIER 6: The Knights of Summer 40. Corey Ray, OF, Milwaukee Brewers (PS Rank: 25) News from the Citadel: Turns out, A-ball is harder than college ball Oathkeeper: A speed-heavy OF2 Kingslayer: Not enough contact skill for the speed to be impactful Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 41. Zack Collins, C, Chicago White Sox (PS Rank: 39) News from the Citadel: Progress on defense, which is half the battle Oathkeeper: Carlos Santana at catcher Kingslayer: Carlos Santana at first base Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 42. Scott Kingery, 2B, Philadelphia Phillies (PS Rank: NR) News from the Citadel: Umm...the power showed up Oathkeeper: A true five-category second baseman Kingslayer: Brian Roberts but with less speed Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 43. Willie Calhoun, 2B/OF, Los Angeles Dodgers (PS Rank: 76) News from the Citadel: No matter the level, the man can hit Oathkeeper: It’d be cool if Adam Duvall had 2B eligibility, no? Kingslayer: He might be as bad at 2B as Adam Duvall Fantasy Impact ETA: 2018 44. Fernando Tatis Jr., SS, San Diego Padres (PS Rank: NR) News from the Citadel: The power/speed/age trifecta is always fun Oathkeeper: A 20/20 shortstop Kingslayer: Even his dad hit two grand slams in one inning Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 45. Royce Lewis, SS, Minnesota Twins (PS Rank: N/A) News from the Citadel: The surprise #1 pick in the draft Oathkeeper: Joe Mauer Kingslayer: Tim Belcher Fantasy Impact ETA: 2021 46. Derek Fisher, OF, Houston Astros (PS Rank: 88) News from the Citadel: He’s not impressed by Triple-A arms Oathkeeper: Is this ... is this another Steven Souza comp? Kingslayer: Is this ... is this another Michael A. Taylor comp? Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2017 47. Chance Sisco, C, Baltimore Orioles (PS Rank: 62) News from the Citadel: Still getting on base, still devoid of pop Oathkeeper: A three-category contributor behind the plate Kingslayer: The C.J. Cron of guys who have to move off catcher Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019 48. Kyle Lewis, OF, Seattle Mariners (PS Rank: 49) News from the Citadel: Kyle? He’s not even a maester. Oathkeeper: A 30-homer outfielder who can help out elsewhere Kingslayer: A Mariners prospect Fantasy Impact ETA: Late 2019 49. Alex Verdugo, OF, Los Angeles Dodgers (PS Rank: 53) News from the Citadel: Keeps on hitting, but not for power Oathkeeper: David Peralta with more playing time Kingslayer: Fancy Jesse Winker Fantasy Impact ETA: Mid 2018 50. Lucas Giolito, RHP, Chicago White Sox (PS Rank: 11) News from the Citadel: Father. Smith. Oathkeeper: Warrior. Mother. Kingslayer: Maiden. Crone. Fantasy Impact ETA: Stranger. Bret’s 51: Josh Naylor, 1B, San Diego Padres (PS Rank: NR) News from the Citadel: He hasn’t stabbed anyone this year Oathkeeper: It’s lazy, but a 30-homer version of Prince Fielder Kingslayer: That’s probably too kind to Stone Garrett Fantasy Impact ETA: 2020 Ben’s 51: Bobby Bradley, 1B, Cleveland Indians (PS Rank: 95) News from the Citadel: Striking out less but still hitting dongers Oathkeeper: A Logan Morrison who shuts up Kingslayer: Look what just happened to Chris Carter ... Fantasy Impact ETA: 2019
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 This is strictly a dynasty list, so I have no idea what J.P. Crawford is even doing on there.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=32267 Boom. Prepare yourself for hilarity. Nick Williams at #13. Criminy. I support this.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Nick Williams ahead of Vladito and Mejia... just wow.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Nick Williams is basically a worse version of Dom Brown.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Primarily defensive SS Amed Rosario at #3. Apparently the fact that Nick Williams doesn't walk doesn't matter,but the fact that Rosario is a good defender does. Bret Sayre is unspeakably bad at his only job. This isn't like, some guy who has to do a multifaceted job. He has to evaluate JUST OFFENCE strictly for the purposes of 5x5 fantasy baseball. How he can be this bad at what he does is simply amazing. I'm of the opinion that it takes conscious effort. PS, not walking might not be important in of itself for newb leagues without OBP, but it's a bad trait that can lead to a lot of inconsistency. See Carlos Gomez, Rougned Odor, Starlin Castro, etc. Professional baseball writer!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Bret Sayre is unspeakably bad at his only job. I honestly believe there are dozens of people just on this board that could do his job much better. It's weird, even the rest of the BP fantasy staff seems much more qualified.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Didn't BTS get into an argument with the guy on Twitter a couple of months ago?
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