A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[Dr. Dinger]

So I think the Otani thing can be worked around (best as we can) with the following;

 

1- Otani only 1 player for all cut-down purposes

2- The owner only has to keep one copy of Otani on his roster at any time to retain ownership

 

It sucks a bit for the owner as he needs to use two roster spots for the player, but it looks like the best we can do at this point. Giving the owner flexibility to drop Otani the hitter or Otani the pitcher (but not both) at any time should do something to make up for this. As does allowing the owner to collect hitting stats even when Otani is pitching.

 

All other owners, just don't pick up anyone named Otani. In the hypothetical instance that Otani's owner is going to drop both copies in the future, the gentlemanly thing to do would be to announce it so people can make a claim (and not have to notice that both are FA's before deciding if they want to make a claim). Its one player, I'm sure we can handle it.

 

Thoughts?

 

I don't like it. He should have to carry both, and if the hitter isn't rosterable, that's Hurl's dilemma. If anything maybe they both count as 1 keeper in the offseason, but I really don't care to see Ohtani on waivers every week and have to sort through that mess.

[Laika]

I think the easiest thing might be to just split Ohtani into two assets.

[z3r0s]

I guess I come at it from the approach that we are trying to approximate the real Otani for fantasy purposes. Part of his real life appeal is that he might be able to be a two way guy. That is not how he is being treated by Yahoo in fantasy, which I think is a shame.

 

Treating him as two assets is the easiest thing to do, but I'm not that interested in how easy it is. I'm more interested in what is most in line with the spirit of what fantasy baseball tries to be.

[TheHurl]

I'm good with whatever the majority of NJH's agrees upon. My personal thought is Cutdown he's 1 of 20. For roster...he's 2.

[Abomination]

Splitting him into two assets, but if you own both then he only counts as one player for cutdown purposes makes some sense imo. The drawback could be if Yahoo ends up changing their system in 2019 or something and gives the same player batting and pitching eligibility, then there would be a problem.

[TheHurl]

I think the easiest thing might be to just split Ohtani into two assets.

 

Can I promote Ohtani the pitcher and leave Ohtani the hitter in my untouchable 13th spot?

[Dr. Dinger]

Splitting him into two assets, but if you own both then he only counts as one player for cutdown purposes makes some sense imo. The drawback could be if Yahoo ends up changing their system in 2019 or something and gives the same player batting and pitching eligibility, then there would be a problem.

 

A very good reason why we should not split them into two assets. If Yahoo converges them in a future year, that's a clusterf***.

[Boxcar]

They mentioned that scenario in their answer.

 

Yeah, like I said. Lazy.

 

Also, the part about owners not receiving 100% of his stats is also dumb because there's an opportunity cost to having him take up 2 roster spots.

[TheHurl]

What Yahoo should have done is change it so all pitcher's hitting stats can count if you put the pitcher in the Util spot

[Dr. Dinger]

What Yahoo should have done is change it so all pitcher's hitting stats can count if you put the pitcher in the Util spot

 

But then you wouldn't get his hitting stats on the day he pitches, so it would tank Ohtani's value and make it totally useless for Bumgarner.

[TheHurl]

You would have options of

 

bench

SP

Util

SP & Util

[Laika]

I think I'm leaning towards:

 

- If someone owns both Ohtani's, he only counts as one keeper (this is his superpower).

- In Yahoo he takes up two roster spots. I don't see an elegant workaround for this.

- He can be split in half.

- Possibly, thehurl should be allowed to roster the SP Ohtani while keeping the UTIL/OF Ohtani on his farm for 2018.

[TheHurl]

I think I'm leaning towards:

 

- If someone owns both Ohtani's, he only counts as one keeper (this is his superpower).

- In Yahoo he takes up two roster spots. I don't see an elegant workaround for this.

- He can be split in half.

- Possibly, thehurl should be allowed to roster the SP Ohtani while keeping the UTIL/OF Ohtani on his farm for 2018.

 

Fair and along the lines of what I was thinking. Further to that, I'm an idiot, but a fair idiot. I'm going to make a suggestion that if I wish to keep UTIL/OF Ohtani on my farm...it cannot be on my Fernandez Estate spot it has to be a 12 man spot.

[Laika]

Fair and along the lines of what I was thinking. Further to that, I'm an idiot, but a fair idiot. I'm going to make a suggestion that if I wish to keep UTIL/OF Ohtani on my farm...it cannot be on my Fernandez Estate spot it has to be a 12 man spot.

 

Yeah I think your extra farm room is (or will be) expired.

 

At least Maitan is cuttable

[Laika]

Ohtani's 2018 Steamer projections are on his Fangraphs player page FYI

[Dr. Dinger]

Guys, this time of year really makes me reflect on how grateful I am for this league, and how grateful I am for all of you...

 

 

 

 

being dumb enough to let me draft Vladdy in the 3rd round.

[Spanky99]

Guys, this time of year really makes me reflect on how grateful I am for this league, and how grateful I am for all of you...

 

 

 

 

being dumb enough to let me draft Vladdy in the 3rd round.

 

lol... Merry Christmas!

[Dr. Dinger]

Ugh I tried so hard to trade Wade Davis before he signed with some team like the Rockies. RIP his trade value.

[BTS]

Ugh I tried so hard to trade Wade Davis before he signed with some team like the Rockies. RIP his trade value.

 

2nd round pick?

[Dr. Dinger]

2nd round pick?

 

Worthless. I can compete for a lower end playoff spot this year if I get any sort of contribution from Robles/Vlad/Gleyber.

[The Cats Ass]

2nd round pick?

 

Fernando Rodney? He'll put up the same numbers as Davis this year.

[BTS]

Worthless. I can compete for a lower end playoff spot this year if I get any sort of contribution from Robles/Vlad/Gleyber.

 

You'll be better off without Davis' 3.95 ERA. I'll toss in Nick Goody or A.J. Minter.

[BTS]

Fernando Rodney?

 

I will never roster Fernando Rodney in any league.

[The Cats Ass]

I will never roster Fernando Rodney in any league.

 

But he's a proven closer that knows how to compete and put it all out on the line night after night.

[The Cats Ass]

But seriously though, for anyone interested. Rodney can be had for dirt cheap, cheaper than dirt, cheaper than a night with BTS. He always somehow gets 30 saves, and will be closing for the Twins. How can anyone hate a Twin.

[BTS]

I want to say Trevor Hildenberger will be closing by June, but Rodney always finds a way to keep his job.

[Orgfiller]

Dinger I'll trade you for Davis.

[Dr. Dinger]

You'll be better off without Davis' 3.95 ERA. I'll toss in Nick Goody or A.J. Minter.

 

Savez tho!

[Dr. Dinger]

Dinger I'll trade you for Davis.

 

Make me a wise offer.

 

Are we still saying that?

[BTS]

Savez tho!

 

You already have Rivero and Kimbrel. If you want saves, I'll throw in Texas Rangers closer Alex Claudio.