A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[Dr. Dinger]

1B - Bird

SS - Bregman

CF - Zimmer

OF - Puig

OF - Benintendi

Util - Olson

 

SP - Berrios/Hendricks/Anderson/Odorizzi/Matz/Hoffman

RP - Devenski/Holland

 

Boxy, you should cut the fat from your roster, acquire an ace, 3B, and 2B, and go for it this year. There's no reason for that team to toil close to 20th place unless you spend another season rostering the Valencias/Reeds/Diaz's/Pearces of the world. That's a good team!

 

You probably don't want to sell your entire farm to push in a year too early when you are close to building a sustainable juggernaut. I would see how those players perform early. Also, please stop talking about Jeff Hoffman as though he doesn't suck balls. He's terrible.

[BTS]

I was being charitable. I'm no longer interested in Hoffman, Matz, or Odorizzi in this format.

[z3r0s]

Looking to trade;

Gregory Polanco

Julio Urias

 

not looking to dump either, but would make a challenge trade for either if it could help me in the shorter term

 

Billy Hamilton

Matt Bush

Pedro Strop

 

Obviously not looking for gold for these guys. Would do a pick-swap to move up for them. Could all be valuable pieces if you had keeper room to spare.

[z3r0s]

Going to switch over draft picks from the 1 (ZRO) format to actual picks now that the lottery is done. Can anyone refresh my memory on how we rank teams for draft picks? Does it take into account playoff finish, or just regular season standings?

 

I feel like it does depend on the playoffs, but I only want to do this once.

[BTS]

Going to switch over draft picks from the 1 (ZRO) format to actual picks now that the lottery is done. Can anyone refresh my memory on how we rank teams for draft picks? Does it take into account playoff finish, or just regular season standings?

 

I feel like it does depend on the playoffs, but I only want to do this once.

 

I thought it was 16-20 in a lottery, and everyone else according to regular season finish.

[z3r0s]

that would be easier, so I'm for it. (someone else chime in if you don't think that is right)

[BTS]

Another thing that came up in BORED - is the lottery just for the top-5 picks, or for slots the entire draft? When I did the BORED lottery, it was only for the top-5 picks, and then other rounds reverted to regular season draft order for all 20 teams. This is how the NHL does their lottery, and seems intuitive to me.

[z3r0s]

I always thought it was all the way through the draft.

 

Let me know what is decided.

[z3r0s]

also, how do division champs play into this? Are they ranked 1-4 despite record or is it all via win %?

[z3r0s]

I will amend the league rules page once this is figured out as it is not perfectly clear.

[KingKat]

I'm 99% sure we kept the same order through the draft. Even though what BTS suggests is sensible, I'm pretty sure that would require amending the rules and it wouldn't really be fair to those who won the lottery to change it now. I would recommend we do it that way starting next year.

[Dr. Dinger]

The draft lottery applies to the entire draft order, not just first round. That's how it's been.

[BTS]

I'm 99% sure we kept the same order through the draft. Even though what BTS suggests is sensible, I'm pretty sure that would require amending the rules and it wouldn't really be fair to those who won the lottery to change it now. I would recommend we do it that way starting next year.

 

Just looked it up, and we have been applying the lottery all through the draft.

 

I'm not sure there's actually a reason for that though, beyond it being a case of 'the first guy who did it did it that way, so we always have'. I think it makes more sense to do it NHL style going forward (maybe after this season) - why spend 3-4 rounds punishing a poor sap like boxy who finishes last, and gets the 4th overall pick?

[z3r0s]

That's how I remember it as well.

So draft picks will be assigned based on the lottery for the first 5 picks each round + the winning % of teams after pick #5 in each round.

 

Division winners do not count for anything in the draft position? (ie they are not always the last 4 picks in a round). Please confirm and I will finalize picks.

[Dr. Dinger]

We shouldn't be unilaterally changing this now.

[BTS]

We shouldn't be unilaterally changing this now.

 

Pretty sure he’s not changing anything.

[z3r0s]

yeah as I understand it we're doing it the same as other years and any changes will (may) be voted on over the OS.

I do still want to confirm that draft order (beyond the first 5 picks) is based purely on W%, and division winners have nothing to do with the order. I believe this is the case, but I'd like to confirm before I put the work in.

[AdamGreenwood]

Starting a new league is tough. Lots of things to consider.

Don't worry though. I'm very confident that you kids will get the hang of this.

[Dr. Dinger]

Starting a new league is tough. Lots of things to consider.

Don't worry though. I'm very confident that you kids will get the hang of this.

 

It's sad how desperately you want in.

[AdamGreenwood]

It's sad how desperately you want in.

 

Yeah, sometimes it's just nice to play the game on 'easy mode', you know?

[The Cats Ass]

yeah as I understand it we're doing it the same as other years and any changes will (may) be voted on over the OS.

I do still want to confirm that draft order (beyond the first 5 picks) is based purely on W%, and division winners have nothing to do with the order. I believe this is the case, but I'd like to confirm before I put the work in.

 

Pretty sure it went by place finished in the playoffs every other year. Playoffs matter.

[z3r0s]

well someone make a damn ruling b/c I did it the other way already (backed up before doing it, so no info is lost)

[BTS]

Pretty sure it went by place finished in the playoffs every other year. Playoffs matter.

 

I thought we agreed not to do that, because it would encourage tanking the playoffs once eliminated?

[Boxcar]

I thought we agreed not to do that, because it would encourage tanking the playoffs once eliminated?

 

I'm pretty sure I brought up this point and the FC I mean DDL elite scoffed at me

[Boxcar]

The totally not old, curmudgeonly and stubborn DDL:

 

Makes no sense to do these by regular season standings. I'm getting punished for having a good season when I didn't even medal!

 

We do this in the BBDL also. If I remember right, the first year we had some people who got knocked out in the playoffs then try to tank to improve their draft position slightly. Regular season records were the easy fix.

 

lmao @ not giving the champion the last pick

 

What? Why would you do anything but regular season order? Using playoff order would be ridiculously unfair. Best team in the league should always get last pick.

 

no, just.. no

 

The DDL actually uses playoff ranking? That's hilarious! What a dumn league, right Greenwood?

 

lol @ ddl

 

How do you deal with consolation matchup tanking?

 

nobody tanks because it's the DDL and also 7th is better than 8th

 

But no one gives a s*** about playoff ranks beside #1.

 

I am extremely proud of my two bronze and one silver DDL medals.

 

Also, losing the 7-8 matchup to jaysblue at the end of 2014 was soul crushing.

 

Wrong. Everybody in the playoffs wants to finish as high as possible even after they're knocked into consolation bracket. Not giving the champ the last pick is utterly retarded.

 

Premise is to give best team last pick right? That should mean best in regular season, not champ. WS winners don't get last pick in MLB.

 

Doesn't playoff success dictate NHL draft order?

 

BORED did it properly... we were 4th in W% ended up picking 17th.

 

Nope.

 

Well thur dumn.

 

looks like yes

 

Maybe we should chime in on what the KHL does?

 

I always do my best to win every series, even after 1st is off the table. This loser talk is why you'll never be DDL material.

 

Wow, you guys are such f***ing idiots. It's called a difference of opinion, and a nearly irrelevant one at that. Who gives a s***? I know I don't.

 

FTR, doing it by playoff finish *IS* retarded. "I KEP PLAYN HERD!!11 EEVEN AFTUR I LOS!!!" How do you do that, exactly? Perform black magic in the hopes that your players perform that week?

 

But yeah, don't mind me, wouldn't want to knock my brother darrell and my other brother darrell off their high horses.

[Boxcar]

And more

 

Ok something is definitely screwed up in the draft picks between me and Silvergun. I'm not sure how this happened, but I'm more than sure we didn't have some sort of trade where we exchanged all our late round picks. Specifically I'm looking at my MiLB picks:

 

60

80

100

120

 

those should be 59, 79, 99, 119. I didn't win this league, I would remember that.

 

I've got a macro written for ensuring the draft order is transcribed properly going forward. That, combined with more specific tracking of picks prior to order finalization (ie having all picks tagged '2 (TRM)') and error checking on the Prospect/Picks sheet, should avoid this going forward

 

That's great but we still need to sort out my problem. Whoever entered the picks flipped mine and SG's and correction is needed on the MiLB picks for this summer's draft.

 

I noticed this a while ago but thought you two had done a mass pick swap at some point.

 

I'll remind you that this is the Darrell Dynasty and you are a Darrell and you have the power to fix your own problems. You can feel free to inflect all of the wronged picks remaining. Or give yourself a waiver pick at the end of the draft as reparations (IIRC you are short a pick from a trade. The reparation pick would let you get in front of the waiver period for your last add).

 

That was me. I had assumed that pick order went by regular season record, not playoff finish.

 

So what you're saying is that the picks will have to stay the way they are then?

 

No, I'm saying I made a mistake in my assigning of picks. I just assumed that the order would be determined that way because...some other league does it that way and also it made more sense to me so I failed to look it up. My bad.

 

I take full responsibility. I should have assumed that you were dumn and checked your work.

 

The ironic thing is that it was harder to assign picks the way I did it. Who knew I should have just taken the easy route?

[Boxcar]

Hm is there a player in the FC that didn't bother to set their lineup or manage their roster too? Maybe that's where you got confused.

 

Yeah, you're right. My apologies for last year, I guess my heart just isn't in it anymore.

 

Can you head DDL bros find a replacement for me? Hopefully they can drag this team out of the gutter.

[z3r0s]

I looked back at last years picks and it seems like Dingers 1st pick was 18th overall (traded to GP) despite him finishing 3rd in the playoffs. FTD's pick looks like it was 17th overall (traded to TCA, then Hurl) despite finishing 4th in the playoffs.

[Boxcar]

I looked back at last years picks and it seems like Dingers 1st pick was 18th overall (traded to GP) despite him finishing 3rd in the playoffs. FTD's pick looks like it was 17th overall (traded to TCA, then Hurl) despite finishing 4th in the playoffs.

 

Why doesn't that make sense?

1st - 20

2nd - 19

3rd - 18

4th - 17

[z3r0s]

Why doesn't that make sense?

1st - 20

2nd - 19

3rd - 18

4th - 17

 

It does make sense, but confirms if playoffs are included or not (or at least if they WERE that year).

 

Owner - RS W% - Playoff finish - Pick

SVG - .701 - 1 - 20

NJH - .611 - 2 - 19

DD - .578 - 3 - 18

FTD - .641 - 4 - 17

 

It follows the playoff positions. Which is what I wanted to confirm.

 

I'll redo the picks to follow this. Please keep this in mind while referencing the google doc at this time.