A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[P2F]

Haha holy hell, Hurl

[Laika]

There is a trade deadline. The season is still going on.

 

It's weird to have trade activity while only 12 teams can participate in it, and then have it affecting the FA pool during the playoffs.

 

I don't care about people agreeing in principle. If you guys want to agree to trades in principle while the market of buyers is severely neutered, that's fine... you can post them and process MiLB portions if you want, but I don't think the Yahoo MLB parts of the trades should be manipulated until the Sunday of the championship week.

 

Then people can manually input the trades agreed to in principle, which will make keeper input in the spring slightly easier.

 

No need to undo anything already processed.

 

I suppose if the MLB side is balanced and no drops have to happen then you can go ahead with it. Whatever.

 

Again - it's the drops that I want to avoid. Shouldn't have trade activity messing with the FA pool during the playoffs.

And again - I'm not sure why anybody would be compelled to sell right now when so many buyers are just not in the market or otherwise concerned.

 

I don't see the logic of trading right now AT ALL you f***ing idiots. Rosters are unlimited in the offseason. Why would you drop people to accommodate trades when you could just wait a few weeks and drop nobody?

[jays_fever]

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[P2F]

To address your last point, I just cut three guys that I, nor would anyone else, want absolutely any part of going forward, so why delay the inevitable?

 

Hernandez, I guess, could be somewhat useful for a playoff team needing a reliever, but nobody is keeping or trading for anyone I just cut. I offered Hernandez before and at the deadline and got nary a nibble. He could've been had for a meaningless pick upgrade.

 

Obviously, the rule should've rendered this all moot though.

[Laika]

To address your last point, I just cut three guys that I, nor would anyone else, want absolutely any part of going forward, so why delay the inevitable?

 

Hernandez, I guess, could be somewhat useful for a playoff team needing a reliever, but nobody is keeping or trading for anyone I just cut. I offered Hernandez before and at the deadline and got nary a nibble. He could've been had for a meaningless pick upgrade.

 

Obviously, the rule should've rendered this all moot though.

 

What if Tommy Joseph goes to Coors?

What if David Hernandez becomes the nominal closer in San Diego?

[BTS]

What if Tommy Joseph goes to Coors?

What if David Hernandez becomes the nominal closer in San Diego?

 

Dinger is just going to pick up two guys of equal value to Hernandez and Joseph, or whoever it was P2F dropped, though. When the dust settles, there's no net change in available waiver wire trash.

[P2F]

What if Tommy Joseph goes to Coors?

What if David Hernandez becomes the nominal closer in San Diego?

 

I like to live life on the edge.

[Laika]

Dinger is just going to pick up two guys of equal value to Hernandez and Joseph, or whoever it was P2F dropped, though. When the dust settles, there's no net change in available waiver wire trash.

 

There's also no net gain for the league for allowing trades in Yahoo after the deadline.

 

Dinger misses the playoffs ONCE and look what f***ing happens.

[Laika]

It's messy. I dislike it. Stop doing it. This is a tight ship.

[Spanky99]

There is a trade deadline. The season is still going on.

 

It's weird to have trade activity while only 12 teams can participate in it, and then have it affecting the FA pool during the playoffs.

 

I don't care about people agreeing in principle. If you guys want to agree to trades in principle while the market of buyers is severely neutered, that's fine... you can post them and process MiLB portions if you want, but I don't think the Yahoo MLB parts of the trades should be manipulated until the Sunday of the championship week.

 

Then people can manually input the trades agreed to in principle, which will make keeper input in the spring slightly easier.

 

No need to undo anything already processed.

 

I suppose if the MLB side is balanced and no drops have to happen then you can go ahead with it. Whatever.

 

Again - it's the drops that I want to avoid. Shouldn't have trade activity messing with the FA pool during the playoffs.

And again - I'm not sure why anybody would be compelled to sell right now when so many buyers are just not in the market or otherwise concerned.

 

I don't see the logic of trading right now AT ALL you f***ing idiots. Rosters are unlimited in the offseason. Why would you drop people to accommodate trades when you could just wait a few weeks and drop nobody?

 

There's also no net gain for the league for allowing trades in Yahoo after the deadline.

 

Dinger misses the playoffs ONCE and look what f***ing happens.

 

It's messy. I dislike it. Stop doing it. This is a tight ship.

 

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[The Cats Ass]

There's also no net gain for the league for allowing trades in Yahoo after the deadline.

 

Dinger misses the playoffs ONCE and look what f***ing happens.

 

I think Dinger is just very very sad he has to go into rebuild mode.

[Dr. Dinger]

I think Dinger is just very very sad he has to go into rebuild mode.

 

You made a trade before I did.

[The Cats Ass]

You made a trade before I did.

 

*taking effect at the end of the playoffs.

 

Also with the condition neither play suffers a career ending injury/suspension/death between now and the end of our playoffs

[z3r0s]

OK all, I bought the trophy template. Any input on the design are appreciated. Colour (is it gold, silver, a colour, or what?). Elements (do we put an f'n baseball, or something as part of the design, idk). Text (I figure a team name, DDL Champion, Year... any other ideas. Maybe division name?). I know my wife will have some sort of creative input, but like something to go off of.

[The Cats Ass]

It's messy. I dislike it. Stop doing it. This is a tight ship.

 

I feel Dinger would be totally against this if some other team were gaining 2 extra roster spots in September. Trades weren't allowed to be completed any other September so I don't see why they should now. The only commish that has processed any of the trades is Dinger. Which coincidentally has the most to gain from this(even though very very little). I think either the roster changes that have been done should be reversed until the end of the playoffs or Dinger's added/pickup ability locked. If not I'm benching my whole team tomorrow in protest

[Orgfiller]

How did jays_fever miss the playoffs? Jesus Christ that offense.

[Dr. Dinger]

I feel Dinger would be totally against this if some other team were gaining 2 extra roster spots in September. Trades weren't allowed to be completed any other September so I don't see why they should now. The only commish that has processed any of the trades is Dinger. Which coincidentally has the most to gain from this(even though very very little). I think either the roster changes that have been done should be reversed until the end of the playoffs or Dinger's added/pickup ability locked. If not I'm benching my whole team tomorrow in protest

 

I wasn't going to pick up anyone because I couldn't be bothered, but now I think I'll go out of my way to cockblock your streaming options.

[The Cats Ass]

How did jays_fever miss the playoffs? Jesus Christ that offense.

 

Seen his pitching?

[The Cats Ass]

I wasn't going to pick up anyone because I couldn't be bothered, but now I think I'll go out of my way to cockblock your streaming options.

 

Exactly. And that trade allows you more flexibility to accomplish that...

[Orgfiller]

Seen his pitching?

 

I did after. McCullers not being the ace everyone expected made his rotation a tire fire. He's got the right idea though, go all in on offense and hope the pitchers sort their s*** out. I've tried the reverse and I gotta tell ya, pitchers are complete ****s.

[The Cats Ass]

I did after. McCullers not being the ace everyone expected made his rotation a tire fire. He's got the right idea though, go all in on offense and hope the pitchers sort their s*** out. I've tried the reverse and I gotta tell ya, pitchers are complete ****s.

 

Fine ballence

[Fearthedoc]

Wait What? Trades are already being processed? I was just going through league transactions and saw Salazar/Lamb added.

 

This is ridiculous.. we have a trade deadline for a reason. You can't just say "Well.. were eliminated so we're going to start discussing and processing trades now".

 

First of all.. this is in no way fair to teams who weren't aware this rule could be broken. I personally wasn't even thinking about trades at this point, as why the hell would I Be? Trades arent legal until the off-season so I know I can continue focusing on my playoff run without worry that deals will be completed. For myself and the other teams who weren't aware of bypassing a rule, we didn't even get the opportunity to jump in on these discussions. Certain eliminated teams are getting the chance to make themselves stronger which is a supreme advantage that was in no way agreed upon. Had I known people would be agreeing to and completing deals, hell, I would have been wheeling and dealing to try and beat people to the punch (despite still having to put time into managing my team for the playoffs).

 

Secondly, allowing an eliminated team to process deals and create roster spots via early trade is where it simply gets absurd. This is a blatant disadvantage to playoff teams who are at a roster crunch as is, and are dropping assets left and right to compete. Suddenly teams are able to make moves to free up additional room to benefit from this?

 

IT IS A TRADE DEADLINE. Can you imagine something like this happening in any sport? Technically you guys shouldn't even be negotiating right now, But if you are going to, whatever -- agree to a deal in principle. To actually go ahead and process deals amidst an incomplete season though; like I said, is ridiculous.

 

We are better than making up rules and loopholes on the spot.

 

We are not the BBDL (just playing BBDL <3)

[Abomination]

We are not the BBDL (just playing BBDL <3)

 

The BBDL does not do weird stuff like this for trade deadlines or drafts. Devolution has not reached us yet.

 

You'll probably be safe anyway. The BBDL invasion is in full force.

[jays_fever]

I did after. McCullers not being the ace everyone expected made his rotation a tire fire. He's got the right idea though, go all in on offense and hope the pitchers sort their s*** out. I've tried the reverse and I gotta tell ya, pitchers are complete ****s.

 

McCullers had 5 really bad starts before they finally shut him down which bloated his ERA, but I wasnt expecting my offense to be this good so I didnt invest in pitching. Moore and Hellickson have far exceeded expectations in how piss poor everyone thought they could actually be. DesClafni didnt make a single start all year, Meyer looked like he showed some promise before he hit the season ended IR.

 

Feel free to offer some pitching though! (;

[Boxcar]

Wait What? Trades are already being processed? I was just going through league transactions and saw Salazar/Lamb added.

 

This is ridiculous.. we have a trade deadline for a reason. You can't just say "Well.. were eliminated so we're going to start discussing and processing trades now".

 

First of all.. this is in no way fair to teams who weren't aware this rule could be broken. I personally wasn't even thinking about trades at this point, as why the hell would I Be? Trades arent legal until the off-season so I know I can continue focusing on my playoff run without worry that deals will be completed. For myself and the other teams who weren't aware of bypassing a rule, we didn't even get the opportunity to jump in on these discussions. Certain eliminated teams are getting the chance to make themselves stronger which is a supreme advantage that was in no way agreed upon. Had I known people would be agreeing to and completing deals, hell, I would have been wheeling and dealing to try and beat people to the punch (despite still having to put time into managing my team for the playoffs).

 

Secondly, allowing an eliminated team to process deals and create roster spots via early trade is where it simply gets absurd. This is a blatant disadvantage to playoff teams who are at a roster crunch as is, and are dropping assets left and right to compete. Suddenly teams are able to make moves to free up additional room to benefit from this?

 

IT IS A TRADE DEADLINE. Can you imagine something like this happening in any sport? Technically you guys shouldn't even be negotiating right now, But if you are going to, whatever -- agree to a deal in principle. To actually go ahead and process deals amidst an incomplete season though; like I said, is ridiculous.

 

We are better than making up rules and loopholes on the spot.

 

We are not the BBDL (just playing BBDL <3)

 

Yeah, that's pretty ********

[BTS]

Wait What? Trades are already being processed? I was just going through league transactions and saw Salazar/Lamb added.

 

This is ridiculous.. we have a trade deadline for a reason. You can't just say "Well.. were eliminated so we're going to start discussing and processing trades now".

 

First of all.. this is in no way fair to teams who weren't aware this rule could be broken. I personally wasn't even thinking about trades at this point, as why the hell would I Be? Trades arent legal until the off-season so I know I can continue focusing on my playoff run without worry that deals will be completed. For myself and the other teams who weren't aware of bypassing a rule, we didn't even get the opportunity to jump in on these discussions. Certain eliminated teams are getting the chance to make themselves stronger which is a supreme advantage that was in no way agreed upon. Had I known people would be agreeing to and completing deals, hell, I would have been wheeling and dealing to try and beat people to the punch (despite still having to put time into managing my team for the playoffs).

 

Secondly, allowing an eliminated team to process deals and create roster spots via early trade is where it simply gets absurd. This is a blatant disadvantage to playoff teams who are at a roster crunch as is, and are dropping assets left and right to compete. Suddenly teams are able to make moves to free up additional room to benefit from this?

 

IT IS A TRADE DEADLINE. Can you imagine something like this happening in any sport? Technically you guys shouldn't even be negotiating right now, But if you are going to, whatever -- agree to a deal in principle. To actually go ahead and process deals amidst an incomplete season though; like I said, is ridiculous.

 

We are better than making up rules and loopholes on the spot.

 

We are not the BBDL (just playing BBDL <3)

 

I have no dog in this fight and don't care about the outcome beyond not really thinking that issues people have stated make any sense, but in real sports (NHL and MLB anyway) teams are free to make trades at any time. The trade deadline is strictly about playoff roster eligibility. They typically don't make trades, because as njh said it's stupid to make a deal when most teams aren't in trade mode, but they are allowed.

[Fearthedoc]

I have no dog in this fight and don't care about the outcome beyond not really thinking that issues people have stated make any sense, but in real sports (NHL and MLB anyway) teams are free to make trades at any time. The trade deadline is strictly about playoff roster eligibility. They typically don't make trades, because as njh said it's stupid to make a deal when most teams aren't in trade mode, but they are allowed.

 

Okay, scrap that comment about real sports, and heed all of my other valid points.

 

At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether some people agree with this, or some people dont; because we all agree on one thing.

 

Rules in place cannot be broken.

 

Therefore, this would be a silly precedent to set for the league.

[BTS]

Okay, scrap that comment about real sports, and heed all of my other valid points.

 

At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether some people agree with this, or some people dont; because we all agree on one thing.

 

Rules in place cannot be broken.

 

Therefore, this would be a silly precedent to set for the league.

 

I also don't really think the 'created roster spot' argument holds any water, because a) where one team gains two spots, the team they're trading with loses two, so it's zero-sum in terms of teams rostering waiver trash, and every eliminated already team has multiple guys they'd drop in a second if they saw something of any interest on the waiver wire. Dinger has at least 5 guys with zero chance at having offseason value that he could have dropped if he saw something he liked. These two new spots hold no value to him.

 

The strong reaction people are having to this seems equal parts visceral "I don't like this because it feels like it might be a problem", and butthurt because teams with nothing to do are making deals and playoff teams feel like everything should pause so they don't miss out.

 

I'll reiterate that I don't really care, because I can't really be bothered to talk trade right now, but I just don't understand the opposition, at all.

[Dr. Dinger]

Anybody looking to trade?

[Dr. Dinger]

Ariel Miranda on waivers! s*** is getting juicy, I knew I didn't stash my claim in vain.