z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 sort of annoying having pick #2 (although I'll still get a nice pick).
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be more annoyed if I were Gibbers and missed out on him by two days.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be more annoyed if I were Gibbers and missed out on him by two days. he wouldn't be eligible anyway would he?
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be more annoyed if I were Gibbers and missed out on him by two days. Moncada wouldn't have been eligible anyway. Olivera would have been.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 sort of annoying having pick #2 (although I'll still get a nice pick). I had an opportunity to acquire the #2 pick and regret not taking it. You should get a very fine prospect.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be more annoyed if I were Gibbers and missed out on him by two days. As a spending limit affected guy, he would have gone into the prospect draft anyway. I'm thinking about tabling a vote on whether or not we should just amalgamate our two drafts starting in 2016. Instead of a 5 round waiver draft in Feb and then a 6 round prospect draft in June, we would just have an 11 round new player draft in February. Any real life player owned by an MLB team could be taken. Only players in Yahoo's system that hit AA or higher OR signed an international MLB deal could be drafted directly to the MLB team. International free agents that have signed MLB deals but are not yet in Yahoo's system could be drafted as prospects. All teams would be expected to finish the new player draft with a 25 man MLB roster, and since you still have to keep 20 players, the "vanilla" draft would consist of 5 MLB guys and 6 prospects (although trading after the cutdown date and during the draft could shift that ratio, for instance if someone trades an MLB player for a pick after the cutdown). Teams would have to announce whether the drafted player is going to their farm or big team (if it's not obvious). PROS: - One list of draft picks to manage and talk about in trades - Removes the "doubling up" of high picks that s***** teams currently get - Allows researchers to draft prospects after a partial season + full offseason of rankings and scouting reports. - No more awkward delineation between international free agents depending on age. CONS: - It would take longer. - It is a bit more confusing. - Kind of levels the playing field on research, so guys who read BA/BP etc. before the MLB draft lose some advantage. - The initial amalgamated draft would be super weak on prospects, since the best will all be taken this June 2015. ...
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I would support combining the two drafts.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 As a spending limit affected guy, he would have gone into the prospect draft anyway. I'm thinking about tabling a vote on whether or not we should just amalgamate our two drafts starting in 2016. Instead of a 5 round waiver draft in Feb and then a 6 round prospect draft in June, we would just have an 11 round new player draft in February. Any real life player owned by an MLB team could be taken. Only players in Yahoo's system that hit AA or higher OR signed an international MLB deal could be drafted directly to the MLB team. International free agents that have signed MLB deals but are not yet in Yahoo's system could be drafted as prospects. All teams would be expected to finish the new player draft with a 25 man MLB roster, and since you still have to keep 20 players, the "vanilla" draft would consist of 5 MLB guys and 6 prospects (although trading after the cutdown date and during the draft could shift that ratio, for instance if someone trades an MLB player for a pick after the cutdown). Teams would have to announce whether the drafted player is going to their farm or big team (if it's not obvious). I think I like this. Would create a very interesting dynamic with teams at different stages drafting in very different ways. Would also eliminate a lot of confusion.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Interesting idea. It would also make the waiver priority potentially more interesting during the season.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 not sure I like it or not. Would certainly create a different dynamic with 'win now' teams going with MLBer early and rebuilding guys going prospects. I guess most 'win now' guys just trade their prospects anyway. I do support (in either case) moving the prospect draft back so you know who signs and who doesn't (avoid Boxy carrying an unsigned player for a year). Would also give you a chance to see some of these guys play a bit of ball. Even if its SSS, its probably useful info given that we don't actually see these guys play.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Also, who's up? Spanky. He's probably still sleeping off yesterday's bender.
TRM Verified Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Who has Zach Lee? It's about time I reacquired that stud, I think. Edit: @Jays_Fever, we need to talk. Edit 2: Wow Zach Lee isn't even in the Fangraphs Top 200, lawls.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I kinda like having two different drafts, it spaces out the white knuckle excitement. Plus I'm old and resistant to change.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Who has Zach Lee? It's about time I reacquired that stud, I think. Edit: @Jays_Fever, we need to talk. Edit 2: Wow Zach Lee isn't even in the Fangraphs Top 200, lawls. I hope Stanton get smashed in the face again
TRM Verified Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I hope Stanton get smashed in the face again Oh you went there eh?
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 How much excitement does the waiver draft bring though? It's a pretty pointless exercise IMO.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 How much excitement does the waiver draft bring though? It's a pretty pointless exercise IMO. Not gonna lie: I'm actually pretty excited about it. Though 30 hours of waiting in the first two days is killing my wood a bit.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 How much excitement does the waiver draft bring though? It's a pretty pointless exercise IMO. Disagree, there are always a couple impact talents and hidden gems. Case in point, Coredick.
TRM Verified Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Would be interested to see what any of my semi-respectable prospects would land in terms of MLB SP. I'm thinking the guys who would get the most interest are Appel, Brandon Finnegan, Joe Ross, Tim Anderson, Aaron Nola, or Monte Harrison perhaps. Lemme know if anyone interests you and you're looking to move a SP. I would combo them up also.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be up for the combo draft. Will likely suck next year as there won't be too much playing time for prospects after the June draft. But after that it will be a lot of talent. However I'd like to add that this is benefiting the better teams as they are now in line for players that they'd have no shot at without trading up currently. There should be extra compensation for the last place teams should this go through.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I'd be up for the combo draft. Will likely suck next year as there won't be too much playing time for prospects after the June draft. But after that it will be a lot of talent. However I'd like to add that this is benefiting the better teams as they are now in line for players that they'd have no shot at without trading up currently. This is part of the reason I don't like it. Yes, it's a s***** team's own problem that they suck, but I'd still like to help them improve to relevance as soon as possible.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 This is part of the reason I don't like it. Yes, it's a s***** team's own problem that they suck, but I'd still like to help them improve to relevance as soon as possible. The waiver draft does very little to help the s***** teams beyond the the first one to three picks. By introducting prospects into the mix, it will elminate the huge dropoff. I'm fine with the top prospect on the board going to the guys who draft after the guy who drafted Yasiel Puig. Given the volatility of prospects, that's not a big punishment to the Puig guy at all but at least it's a little fairer to the other non playoff teams.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Was pleasantly surprised to see Beachy had signed with the Dodgers when I checked my team on Yahoo! Not a band landing spot and the Friedman endorsment is somewhat encouraging.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 The waiver draft does very little to help the s***** teams beyond the the first one to three picks. By introducting prospects into the mix, it will elminate the huge dropoff. I'm fine with the top prospect on the board going to the guys who draft after the guy who drafted Yasiel Puig. Given the volatility of prospects, that's not a big punishment to the Puig guy at all but at least it's a little fairer to the other non playoff teams. Yeah. Jose Veras and Eddie Butler going 3/4 after Tanaka/Abreu last year really unfortunate. Hilarious, but unfortunate. Poor Boxy.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 After thinking about it, I'm in favour of keeping the draft as is. I think its more beneficial to the poor teams to have a opportunity at a high ceiling MiLB player and a recent import in the same draft year.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 6 hour windows with 1am-7am timeout starting in round 2.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 6 hour windows with 1am-7am timeout starting in round 2. Excellent
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