Morosi: Blue Jays Have "Checked In" on Ketel Marte

I wouldn't hate it, don't like the age difference but Marte on cheaper money gives the Jays more payroll flex for other needs while filling a spot with another allstar. 

And I love Bo. The price will be steep either way..

10 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Counterpoint though, as you said the age difference is significant in that the downturn of Marte is probably a lot closer than the downturn of Bo. You'd likely project Bo to give you more seasons of impact than Marte. 

Don't know why were even talking about it though. Bo hasn't signed elsewhere yet, this is something they shouldn't even be considering until it's confirmed Bo isn't coming back. That's when you start looking for solutions, only after the problem is confirmed. 

Uhmm...

52 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Dammit Spanky, this is a direct reference to the other thread.

So, they can talk to both Godammit, lol.

"Blue Jays are one of a handful of teams that have checked in on (insert Free Agent or trade target)" happens every year with Trollosi. It's usually followed by a spot on a Toronto radio show. I'm sure the Jays have checked in on Marte, but Morosi is just doing his usual off-season nonsense to get whatever engagement he can from the few people who still view him as credible. How he survived Ohtani-gate still baffles me. 

25 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

I don't think you'd even put Barger on the table. 

He's got every tool to produce 90% of Marte with 6 more seasons of control, half of them at league minimum. The value offset in contract status and age is pretty immense, not to mention they kinda need Barger to play the field somewhere going forward.  

I would expect Nimmala + someone else to be in the deal but Barger would not be the main piece. Barger is a no go for many reasons. 

Outlandish claim. The only tool that Barger comes close to matching Marte in is raw power. Marte is an elite hitter with no real flaws in his offensive profile, even if Barger hits his best case scenario he'll be hard pressed to come anywhere near "90% of Marte". At Barger's age Marte was just coming off a 6 win season.

Barger should by no means be this untouchable piece. I'd move him as the headliner for a player of this caliber, that has such a reasonable contract, in a heartbeat. I think you might be overreacting a bit to his excellent postseason performance.

Going to be honest I like him as a hitter but I don’t think he’s worth the acquiring cost which will be sky high. Would prefer if they just upgraded offensively through the free agent pool. He’s also not known as a great teammate hence why he’s being shopped to begin with he doesn’t vibe with the clubhouse which is a special thing in Toronto. There was also the incident where he cried for getting heckled by a fan. Wanted the fan banned for life and the fan had no idea his mom died 5+ years prior. Seems like a bit of a werido to me.

15 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Going to be honest I like him as a hitter but I don’t think he’s worth the acquiring cost which will be sky high. Would prefer if they just upgraded offensively through the free agent pool. He’s also not known as a great teammate hence why he’s being shopped to begin with he doesn’t vibe with the clubhouse which is a special thing in Toronto. There was also the incident where he cried for getting heckled by a fan. Wanted the fan banned for life and the fan had no idea his mom died 5+ years prior. Seems like a bit of a werido to me.

Was this confirmed to be true?  I thought the fan knew this and selected that chirp accordingly.

56 minutes ago, Ray said:

Would you do Barger + Nimmala + 1 of Bloss or Tiedemann for Marte? Would that even get it done? 

There's absolutely no way I'd give up this much to get Marte.  

Marte is a GREAT player, but entering his age 32 season, he may only have 2-3 years of elite performance left.  

I'd rather resign Bo and keep the Barger and the prospects.

I do appreciate that Marte may be worth this much to someone.  He has a lot of value based on his contract - but the Jays aren't penny pinching, so I don't think we need to give up that much young talent to add the contractual value...

21 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Was this confirmed to be true?  I thought the fan knew this and selected that chirp accordingly.

He said “I messaged your mom last night”. His mom died in 2017, The fan had no idea and was extremely apologetic but still got banned for life by both the White Sox and eventually MLB. Marte really pushed for it and wouldn’t respond to the fans apologies.

1 hour ago, Ray said:

Would you do Barger + Nimmala + 1 of Bloss or Tiedemann for Marte? Would that even get it done? 

That's 1 MLB ready piece in Barger who is ready to go for Arizona

Jake Bloss gives AZ some much needed pitching depth. He was an arrow up guy before injury and gives them a potential backend start immediately

Nimmala is a lot of raw upside.

I would do this. I am going to cheerlead trading prospects this offseason to add major league pieces especially ones on great contracts 

Fangraphs ranked him 31st in their trade value rankings between Lindor and Kirk. With Barger there is real platoon risk (69 wrc+ vs lefties this season) and Nimmala has a wide range of outcomes that could be anywhere from first division regular to a guy who never sticks in the bigs 

17 hours ago, Jonn said:

He said “I messaged your mom last night”. His mom died in 2017, The fan had no idea and was extremely apologetic but still got banned for life by both the White Sox and eventually MLB. Marte really pushed for it and wouldn’t respond to the fans apologies.

Thanks - I didn't hear much of the aftermath.