Carlos Danger

He walked a guy also. 1.2 IP 3 hits and a BB. Not great.

The Rays were up 1-0 and he had given up two hits with 9Ks and had a low pitch count. The decision to pull him f***ed him up after. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10000205-blake-snell-says-he-was-lost-after-getting-pulled-in-game-6-of-world-series-by-rays.amp.html

You are Rays fan....Didn't the whole MLB learn from the Snell debacle??

There is an article on Sportsnet that show why it was the wrong decision even based upon the numbers and wanting to get the lefty bats out. That didn't work either....

I suspect you are old enough to remember that was a move to shake up the chemistry/culture of the team. Gillick brought in exactly the right guys for that. It was a move to counter sustained failure in the playoffs to that point. McGriff as nice as a guy he was, wasn't what the team needed as a leader.

This team needs a Tony Fernandez and Fred McGriff moment. Pat Gillick saw the Jays get destroyed by the A's in the playoffs with the same core that was good, but not good enough. He made the move and it became Joe Carter's and Roberto Alomar's team. This has been Vlad and Bo's team long enough with not sufficient results. Saying Vlad was one of the best hitters on a horrible offensive squad is not saying much. The Blue Jays do not have have a clean up hitter, because it ain't Vlad and Bo should hit 2nd or 3rd. Barker has been saying all year how bad Vlad's footwork is at 1b and that he thought Mattingly was going to fix it... Apparently not for whatever reason Vlad has been regressing. Where is this potential you are saying there is? It is also foolish to chase upside that is never going to come and then get nothing for Vlad. For the exact reason you are saying we should keep him, probably another team would still trade something decent for him. You need to build an all around solid baseball team. Vlad's production is what you maybe want in the 5th spot if you have nothing else. The offense, Vlad's approach at the plate 3/4 of the year coupled with too many bad plays to go with the good at 1b, plus brain dead moves in other areas some times. Vlad is the change we need to make. He is the main course of the restaurant and you can't just keep changing furniture, adding new sides and paint the room a different color. Time for a new main course.

Why should we continue to roll with Vlad? What makes anyone think he will get better. His contract will be an Albatross if we extend him and I have zero faith in his physique long term. He is a replaceable bat and upgradeable 1B. Move him before his value dips and don't let him be a heartbeat of the team.

I just can't believe the FO didn't learn anything from the Snell debacle... I mean seriously....

Good season? This was a team supposed to win at least the division, and a WS.. Not back into a lower WC spot finish 3rd in the division and lose 0-2 again in the first WC round.

If they would go for it, it would be awesome...Just don't see the Padres going for it...I also like Hoskins at 1B.

Berrios had three Ks in his last complete inning. You don't have worry about ground balls finding a hole when the batters can't hit the ball.

What explains guys hitting previously and then come to the Jays and can't hit... There is a team approach and buy into a process that is team centric... Why have previously decent hitters gone to s*** this year...

I think it is time to trade Vlad for the value we can get.. The value will be less as he gets closer to FA and fatter/starts developing knee and back issues etc.. It would also be a culture move. It is not working with Vlad as our "star".

People need to realize nobody wanted Kirk for anything worth while... I hear this so much, why didn't we trade Kirk!!??... You can't trade something for something no one wants...

The team never had a long winning streak all year, even with the SPs we have. We couldn't win a clinching game against a team that had nothing to play for and started scrubs in a bull pen game. A Tiger doesn't change it stripes... Bo has not shown, the ability to play solid D in the playoffs and let himself get caught up in the moment and some bad ABs at key times even thought he did get a bunch of hits. Vlad has not shown he is a leader and a star player. Offense, defense and base running. Biggio batting 5th for a playoff game is a major roster construction issue. Varsho succumbing to the pressure and doing something he never does on D. Did no one learn from taking Snell out of the Rays game?? FFS??? The hitting coaches need to go for no other reason then to flush the stench.

It means you don't have to score as many runs, or if you have a 5 run lead you should be able to keep it. But yea, doesn't score any runs for you.

No margin for error in the playoffs for dumb ass base running and errors. Teams need their superstars to rise to the occasion in the playoffs, not f*** them...

Runs always get harder to come by in the playoffs.. Not quite sure why people thought we could score in the playoffs when we couldn't even score regular season games.

These days most guys can't even bunt. So at least he executed...LOL

I have MLB TV. Games are not available unless you buy a separate package for the playoffs but you still need a cable provider. Same with apps like ESPN. You need a cable provider.

Do you have one?

I need some good commentary today boys. I and millions of North Americans who don't have cable can't watch playoffs.. f*** MLB. LFG!!

If we win, get ready to copy and paste for tomorrow.

They have three really good SPs.

When you have a lead off runner on, you need to at the very least move that f***er over to 3rd before the inning is over... Listening on the radio (f*** you MLB) but the Jays announcer was saying Bo had a really long swing outside his area of strength and trying to hit a HR his last AB instead on just moving it down the line.