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Either way the guy with PTSD that uses an illegal drug to self medicate is explicitly choosing to use any drug that isn't prescribed to him. By your own rigid criteria we should hold this person responsible for their addiction. If you can't even keep your own criteria straight for whether or not somebody is to be blamed for their drug use then you should be able to see how many holes there are in this whole line of thinking.

You are contradicting yourself from earlier posts.

That wasn't what you said at all though, you were saying it was ok to be addicted to drug if it was prescribed to you. Now as long as something messed your head up it's ok to use illegal drugs too.

You walk a pretty slippery slope when you assign blame like this. Here's a fictional narrative to illustrate my point. Let's say a military veteran with PTSD tries a hard drug with one of his buddies, something like heroin for instance. He finds that the drug gives him a sense of calm for the first time since returning to civilian life. He ends up addicted to the drug very quickly. In your eyes is this person a loser who should have his feet held to the fire, or is this situation one with nuance that should be examined before making a determination?

If you were to examine the root cause of most addiction issues you would be very likely to find an underlying root cause, whether it's financial stress, abuse, ptsd, etc. Each individual would have their own unique set of circumstances that would lead them down the path of addiction. Suggesting some people deserve addiction or somehow asked for it because it wasn't prescribed by a physician is very flawed. Nobody sets out choosing to be addicted to a substance, and rather than demonizing those that end up with addictions it's far more productive for society to help those people to beat the addictions and allow them to return as healthy productive members of society.

Roy Halladay seemed like an amazing human being with the outpouring of stories of how many lives he touched that emerged upon his death. SI ran a very in depth look at his life after his passing, it's a must read for anybody who missed it originally. https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/07/17/roy-halladay-death-philadelphia-phillies

I can see taking issue with calling Roy Halladay something like a junkie given the negative connotation of that particular term, but don't really see what's wrong saying he was a drug addict, it's just stating the truth of the situation. It unfortunately sounded like he may have been suffering from multiple substance addictions at the time of his death. I'm not so sure if there is even really a more "sanitized" term available to describe what he was dealing with.

I don't know that blaming drug addicts for their addiction, no matter how it was acquired, really helps in any way. But if that's your line of thinking, Roy Halladay was performing stunts in his personal aircraft while intoxicated on a combination of chemicals that may have killed him even without the plane crash. This isn't exactly somehow better than somebody who tries out cocaine and ends up getting addicted.

Even you would have a hard time putting me on Marcus Stroman level in terms of drama.

That echoes my sentiments exactly, the guy is max level drama queen.

Baseball players very well may be the world's worst offenders for constant spitting as well. Maybe the suggestion that players wear masks, although awkward at best, may actually help somewhat.

Has there been any word on whether there could be any sort of minor league season this year? The MLB plan looks like a logistical nightmare at best, and that's for a far more limited number of teams and players than would need to be accounted for in the case of minor league ball.

Perhaps over social media he won't be as bad as on a television broadcast doing color commentary. I think his best place on a baseball broadcast is actually in the studio where he has more time to put his thoughts together, he can offer more than platitudes and cliches in studio. I've found the quality of analysis he can offer differs greatly in studio vs live in game, and if Sportsnet flipped Joe Siddall and Pat Tabler around their broadcasts would be better off overall.

It sounds like this has already been happening for awhile now, particularly with the African American athletes it seems. I do wonder if eventually with the emerging evidence of how harmful football is neurologically if eventually we will see a shift in football participation back to other sports as more and more parents bar their kids from playing.

Panik has a better chance to provide some actual value on the field. It's unlikely to be much above replacement value, but at least that's better than the below replacement value that Drury has provided in his Blue Jays career.

Lol it was worth a shot. This seems to be a more chilled out thread oddly enough, sort of the opposite of what I originally created it for.

Come on guys, you need to ratchet up the emotion to 110% here and really give it your all. Of course make sure you don't try to do too much as that would be detrimental. I've always wondered though, is 110% effort indeed doing too much? Maybe 105% is still safe?

I'm tired of the constant bickering going on in the other Coronavirus threads as they have descended into a constant state of pointless arguments. I'm sure there are people on this board that would love to be able to present emerging facts, stories from around the world, relevant local happenings that pop up due to Covid-19. What we don't need is a group of self-described viral outbreak experts constantly polluting our general discussion threads with the garbage that has become rampant. Here is your own personal thread for you guys to go back and forth with this crap so the rest of us don't need to be inundated with it when attempting to discuss this pandemic like rational adults.

I honestly don't understand why you guys are wasting so much time arguing about fatality rates of covid-19 vs Spanish flu, like seriously who f***ing cares? Covid-19 is this era's major global viral pandemic. We should take it every bit as seriously whether fatality rate is 2%, 5% or 10%. The long lasting societal consequences are going to be far reaching regardless of what the final fatality rate ends up being.

Thanks I think?

Holy s*** man you are just making a fool of yourself at this point. Other posters here have presented numbers from reputable sources, if the truth is going to scare a certain subset of the population then so be it. Your assertion that people discussing something on a baseball message board is somehow going to whip people into some kind of frenzy is ridiculous. You know what is scaring people? Things like are happening in Italy is scary, the idea of hospitals crowded to capacity with people dying in the hallway is f***ing scary. The fear of the unknown is scary for people, Chinese healthcare workers collapsing from exhaustion from the overload of patients and getting sick and then dying themselves is scary. Talk on a message forum isn't scary. There seems to be people that are prone to misplaced anger with the situation that's enveloping the globe. These people blame the media stoking fear, you yourself blame reasonable posters of a message forum, blaming the messenger is such a waste of time. If you need to be angry then get angry at the people directly responsible for this. Get mad at the Chinese government, get mad at the US administration and their completely bungled response despite months of available planning time, get mad at those snapping up all of the emergency pandemic supplies and gouging people desperate to prepare themselves for the emergency that's now here. If the entirety of this board is telling you that you are taking an asinine stand with no sense or reasoning behind it then maybe, just maybe you can realize that you are the person in the wrong here.

People being scared is simply just an emotion that they will get over. That's a hell of a lot better than legions of people ending up dead because a certain segment of the population attempts to downplay the significance of the greatest public health crisis in any of our lifetimes. Start using your brain to process what is a more desirable outcome, people being scared into reacting appropriately, or just going about your normal life as if nothing is happening.

The best thing that can happen is that people take this pandemic as seriously as they should and do as directed by health officials in order to minimize the impact. This garbage accusing others of scaring people is worthless. People should be very concerned about the potential impact to our society as a result of this outbreak, and it's people like you attempting to downplay the seriousness of this that are the real issue. If people don't take this seriously what are the consequences? Thousands upon thousands of unnecessary deaths, far worse financial impact, longer to return to normal etc. etc. By the time this is finished the numbers of total dead are going to be devastating no matter what the percentage of people that die ends up being.

I get the feeling we are going to be praying for a return to the old arguments, potshots and insults about baseball related matters incredibly soon by the ways things are rapidly turning on here.

Hopefully that comes with an included supply of lube or I shudder to think what my penis would end up looking like.