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Ooh snappy comeback Ralph. I've been officially put on notice.

You are making yet another reductive argument. The bats scored a whooping total of 5 runs in the last 2 games of the series and that's anything but fine.

And if the offense tacked on more runs earlier in the game or scored late when they wasted some glorious opportunities the bullpen runs would have been nothing more than a footnote. See how easy it is to paint a completely different picture than what you are are portraying while also being factually correct? You are displaying all of the hallmarks of rigid black and white thinking here and this isn't a great way to ingratiate yourself to other board members when presented with a lot of more nuanced opinions than the binary position that you are stating.

Are you this obtuse intentionally or it more of an accident? Nance gave up a single walk and a single hit in 1.1 innings of work and this is him getting "shelled" in your view? You should take the opportunity to read a little more and post less as you are lacking in the basic baseball acumen that's required to keep up with the discussion here.

Get over yourself. If not for Yamamoto and his heroics the Blue Jays almost certainly would have been world series champions. The team put their best arms into the game in the late innings in game 7 and an elite team did just enough to steal away a victory with some late inning heroics. Stop acting like your opinion is some sort of undeniable truth as that's not the case.

You are conflating opinion with facts. I disagree in your assessment that the bullpen deserves 100% of the blame for the Blue Jays losing game 7 as I believe the fact that the offense completely dried up in the later innings in game 7 was the primary reason the team lost the game and series. They left a ton of runners on base and failed to execute on a massive number of chances to tack on extra runs early, and failed at some nearly gift wrapped opportunities to tie or take the lead/win in the late innings.

Good grief try to look even an inch beneath the surface. Your criticism is essentially boiling down to you thinking that every club in MLB is supposed to have 8 leverage relievers available to them at all times and anything less is inexcusable because it's easy to build a perfect bullpen in MLB as injuries and underperformance apparently don't exist in your view. Through a cascade brought about by a ton of rotation injuries, shorter starts from the rotation and heavy leverage group usage in the prior few games it was necessary to bump some mid leverage arms up the chain a bit. Nance didn't pitch that badly in the final game of the Angels series, and Fisher unfortunately had a little bi of a tough outing that was aided by an unfortunate well placed softly hit fly ball that fell in due to the alignment of the outfield. If/when the rotation rounds back into form and a lot of key starters begin to return the rotation innings should stabilize a bit, and with Garcia potentially nearing his return this can add another key leverage arm back into the mix.

So what's your magic alternative? Surely you are aware that it's nearly impossible to pull of trades for relievers at this point of the season, and the alternative to the likes of Nance and Hoffman are essentially Little and YRod at this point.

Yeah I think it's high time for him to be moved down the pecking order a bit. It leaves the club short a leverage arm though so hopefully someone else picks up the slack in the meantime. We can only hope that post surgery Yimi has fully recovered his stuff as he can be a key piece in the pen essentially taking over from Varland as the fireman out of the pen.

I don't necessarily buy into this theory that Hoffman has some kind of mental block. His command is very spotty at the best of times and he's shown a tendency for his command to completely escape him at times. I don't think this is going to magically go away simply because he's pitching in a lower leverage role.

I think Hoffman was been fully accountable to the media during his struggles vs Lauer who has been blasting the team's decisions on the regular despite his relative struggles this season. It's really puzzling that Lauer gets a complete pass despite the constant whining in the media and Hoffman gets called a baby when he's done nothing to warrant this type of criticism.

Good grief Hoffman isn't in charge of choosing who is closer for the team, that falls on the manager/coaching staff and front office. This is just as dumb as the criticism that Bo used to receive for refusing to move off of short stop when there was zero evidence to suggest he was ever asked to move in the first place.

Yeah it strikes me as coming across as being a selfish player. I'm sure he's far from the first player in his position to have these types of thoughts but most guys are media savvy enough to publicly state how they are happy to do whatever it takes to help the team vs causing waves in this fashion.

I thought Lauer generally pitched a lot better his last time out. I think he'd be better served to keep his thoughts to himself a little bit more as he's been complaining a ton to the media like he's a perennial Cy Young candidate vs a swingman type.

I like Hoffman's stuff but his command is just abysmal at times. He has a tendency to fall behind in counts and groove pitches in the middle of the zone which is a recipe for disaster at times.

Man Boobs? That's very mature of you.

Those are my thoughts as well as his knee would be placed under greater stress while healing due to the fact that he's such a large man.

Wasn't it announced that he had a 6 month recovery post surgery?

Bassitt has been positively awful to start the season with the Orioles. I think that the timing was right to move on from him as the team pursued higher upside options for the rotation.

Sadly Barger and Lukes have been worse offensively than this.

And you seem like the type of guy who wouldn't be able to figure out how to get the gas into the gas tank on your car.

Yeah I'd make the switch with Macko tomorrow.

Are you a child who is completely incapable of emotional regulation? Despite the uneven start the Blue Jays are presently 4-3 after 7 games. The season is far from over, there is still nearly 96% remaining. Being an overly emotional idiot doesn't make you "hardcore", it just makes you an overly emotional idiot. And now you are trying to make the point that other organizations have had more success than the Blue Jays because the Blue Jays don't have enough fans with little to no emotional regulation and the complete lack of understanding that it's poor form to act like a season is doomed after 7 games.

That's cool you have another over-reactionary/limited knowledge poster to hold hands with. The issue people take with you is the repeated series of sky is falling garbage that you feel the need to spew onto the page every time the team struggles, no matter how short the period of struggles actually is. You are making long term/162 game determinations based on a literal week worth of games. Are you seriously so dense that you can't understand that this is nothing to do with some kind of conformity and everything to do with outright panic posts based on the whopping sample size of 4.3% of the season?