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Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Kim is going to miss the start of the season, and much like Varsho, it's probably going to be an adjustment for him once he gets back due to the nature of the injury. If it's a longer term/reasonable AAV type of deal then it makes more sense, but for 2025, not sure that's the best way to maximize wins. At least not the safest way. It wouldn't surprise me if the backup plan is Arraez. The Padres financial/ownership situation isn't good and I don't think it would take much to get him. -
I think that's what it would be, taking a chance on an oft-injured former top prospect who has had MLB success but hasn't been consistent and has been hurt too much. I can't imagine it's going to cost that much on a 1 year deal. If it fails, then move on to Clement or whoever, but the Jays need stuff like this to break in their favor if they want to contend.
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Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Robert Murray on his podcast today said that he never got the sense that Alonso to the Jays was ever close (referring to the “10 yard line” quote). So there’s a very good chance a lot of the social media buzz is BS. Apologies for doubting Winnie the Pooh and the other sources with 50 followers. -
Sign a SP and go internal offensively (Barger, Orelvis, Wagner, Roden, etc...whoever rakes in Spring Training). Not sure that's the best way to go if 2025 is a contention year, but wasting money on marginal 1 WAR position players is what the team did last winter and it's not going to help them short or long term. I wouldn't mind a buy low on Moncada at 3B since it should be cheap or a trade for someone like Jesus Sanchez with the hopes of his exit velo/barrels/bat speed having breakout potential, but beyond that, if it's not Alonso/Bregman/Robert, then I don't think there's a real difference maker out there. Just go internal and live with the consequences.
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Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Agreed it's probably not a smart signing, especially with the opt outs, and it's certainly not a logical position fit, but I think it's just the best of what's out there as far as making the 2025 team as strong as possible. Boras had a bunch of clients who signed the 1+1(+1) deals last winter, two of them opted out/would have opted out (Snell/Chapman) and three opted in (Bellinger, Montgomery, Hoskins). Alonso is probably a 50/50 opt in for 2026. Teams are smarter now so they won't be fooled by home runs alone. He'll have to have a great season. Would have to know what the alternative to Alonso. If it's a sensible trade for Robert, then I'd go that route. If it's Austin Hays, then just sign Alonso. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
As of now Vlad is an impending FA, and if Alonso were to sign here he'd likely have a player opt out after 2025, so I doubt either one of them would want to DH regularly. An Alonso signing would probably mean Vlad is playing 3B at least somewhat regularly. They'd have to weigh that against not signing Alonso (or being unable to) and having to find someone. At this rate the Vlad/Alonso pair is probably the best thing they can realistically pull off, unless they can trade for Luis Robert or something, which would be preferable depending on what it would take. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Spending 2 full seasons targeting players who couldn't hit but played great defense in an effort to double/triple down on run prevention, only to enter what appears to be a lameduck season prepared to have Alonso at 1B, Vlad at 3B, and Santander in LF is the Ross Atkins babyface turn that no one expected. I'm down. Still need to see it to believe it, as Boras is a master manipulator, but at least Atkins has been targeting legitimate impact this winter. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
My takeaway from that is that 1) the Mets don't care if Alonso comes back or not (it will have to be on their terms), and 2) Alonso will probably still be a free agent by the time every player on every team is in camp. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Robert would be a nice trade target but hard to see the Jays having the prospect capital to get it done, though the White Sox aren’t exactly the best run organization. I forgot Bregman was still out there. I still want no part of him on a long term deal, and I would imagine the Jays don’t either. Santander had to defer like 60% of his contract to get the Jays to go to a 5th year so not sure they’d want to big years on Bregman who is older and already showing signs of decline. Sounds like the Astros may still have interest in him, which seems like the most logical fit if that’s the case. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I think this is the most likely scenario. No reason for the Mets not to do a 3 year deal with opt outs. The question is where do the Jays pivot to if/when that happens? Profar would have been ideal but that option is gone now. Not much else available in free agency. I guess they'd invest in the rotation (which they need to do anyway) and maybe try to find a trade piece for the offense. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Martino is actually credible when it comes to the Mets/Yankees so I wouldn't dismiss what he's saying, but could be info he's getting from Boras (who usually uses Heyman for his media manipulating). The fact that the Jays local media never take the time to squash rumors, even when fans are giddy with unrealistic hope, but are doing so now is interesting. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Atkins actually using the local media to his advantage to counteract Boras using the Mets media for leverage. Being embarrassed by Sasaki has changed Ross. -
Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Report: Blue Jays Talks With Pete Alonso "Advancing"
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yeah only reason the Mets would balk at a short term deal for Alonso would be trying to save money/the position for Vlad next year. Alonso is going to get opt outs in his deal but there's no guarantee he will opt out (see Bellinger), and he's a much tougher player to trade given his profile (lumbering 1B/DH). With that said, I feel that's a rather pointless thing to do for the Mets. They have the richest owner in the sport, so worst case if they sign Alonso for 3 years with opt outs and he doesn't opt out, it's not like Cohen is going to have issues paying Vlad. Maybe Stearns just doesn't like Alonso, or this is all just a game of chicken that Boras is playing (using the Jays) to get the Mets to cave a bit. -
Man with that contract structure, I could actually see Tony opting out. Great move by Ross. Either Santander really wanted to be a Jay, or he had no other suitors.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Martino is actually credible so at least there’s one. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yesterday, Carlos Baerga tweeted this (translated): "Well my people according to my sources Outfielder Jurickson Profar and Max Scherzer could be signing with the Toronto team". Hector vs Carlos; the battle we've all been waiting for. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
You forgot the most credible one: -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yeah I'm guessing that's the plan on the Jays end. Try for Alonso and pivot to Profar if that fails. There really isn't anyone else in the the FA market. I don't see much talk of Alonso to the Jays on X/Twitter aside from some very questionable accounts posting about it, so I don't think anyone should be getting their hopes up here (yet). -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Wouldn't surprise me if Boras is using the Jays to get the Mets to increase their offer. A pillow contract for Alonso makes way too much sense for the Mets, so I'd be somewhat surprised if the Jays sign him, unless the Mets have tapped out completely. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
In Shi Davidi's latest article he mentions that Straw's money does not count towards the CBT payroll, which I'm assuming is due to him not being on the 40 man roster. Obviously he still counts towards the actual payroll but not being included in the CBT is at least a partial positive to a s***** move. Hopefully that means they have no incentive or interest in actually using him. Seems like the Alonso/Scherzer package deal idea is picking up some steam on social media. Both Robert Murray and BNS have apparently thrown that possibility out there. It's not the ideal positional fit, but a Vlad-Taters-Polar Bear middle of the lineup is an exciting power combination which we haven't seen in a few years. Atkins reverting back to 2020-22 Ross is a welcomed change. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Alonso has no market (or a very, very limited one). That's likely why the Jays are allegedly showing interest even after signing Santander. They don't necessarily need another 1B/DH given the current roster, but if his price becomes more reasonable due to lack of interest, then you can rationalize it making sense for a team that could still use more power in the lineup. Would Shatkins do a high AAV short term deal with an opt out after year 1 for a 1B/DH attached to a QO? That's where I don't really see it happening, but a FO trying to win in 2025 might be open to do things that they normally wouldn't do. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Bregman's market seems to involve more teams, and he's not looking for a pillow contract from the sounds of it. Probably just asking for too much in general. He's probably the best positional fit for the Jays but will almost certainly involve the most years and dollars, and there's real "Years 3-6 George Springer" potential with whatever deal he signs. Alonso's market is probably the Mets and the Jays. I don't see any other obvious fit. On a pillow contract he makes way more sense for the Mets since they won't lose a comp pick + international money to get him like the Jays would. Have no clue on Profar's market. Recent report had the Jays and Astros involved. Profar willingly signed with the Rockies at one point so I don't think he gives a damn where he goes, it will be about the contract. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
No team is going to pay Profar like 3-4 WAR player, so if 2024 was a late career breakout, then I agree there is very real surplus value potential there. Still pretty risky though. He could easily slither back to something closer to replacement level given his history. If the deal is something like 3/36 or 3/40, then it might be worth the gamble either way depending on the alternatives.

