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Rick Westhead: Jose Bautista seeks 5 years $150M
glory replied to Spoonovic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
This whole circus is Bautista's doing. If he doesn't make those comments yesterday, no one is even talking about this. -
Rick Westhead: Jose Bautista seeks 5 years $150M
glory replied to Spoonovic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
That sounds crazy high, but wouldn't surprise me if the demand is at least 5/125. Bautista wants that bread. -
The way you think GM's handle media sessions seems to imply you've never actually seen one.
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Valiant speaking on behalf of the bandwagoners.
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He is obligated to make those media sessions. He's not obligated to give the media intricate details about failed trades or contract talks.
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Sounds like Pentecost but who knows with these vague ass media reports.
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Look what Cespedes got. Wouldn't surprise me if Bautista wants 4/100 or 5/125. The AAV he wants is probably going to fall somewhere between $22-25M. It was never meant to be. Jays got him at a bargain for his best years. It will suck to see him play elsewhere but the team he goes to will be paying way more for his declining years. That's the way the Jays have to look at it.
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Jays apparently were going to send a prospect in the deal. Without knowing who the prospect was and how much money they were obligated to pick up, it's hard to say whether this is a good or bad thing. I'd rather have Bruce in LF with Pompey in AAA than Pompey in LF and a s*** storm in AAA and Saunders on the DL. But if the Jays were sending a good prospect and/or picking up a large chunk of Bruce's contract, then that's not appealing at all. I guess we will never know. I doubt the trade gets re worked, and if it's Saunders who is the hold up, then I hope it doesn't. Last thing the Jays need is to add prospects or money to make the deal more appealing.
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This was my fear when trading Ben Revere. Expecting Saunders to stay healthy was a pipe dream.
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Why did the Jays even tender Saunders?
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An injury concern for someone involved and it's not Bruce. I'm drawing a blank.
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It could be because of the cash involved as well. Maybe the Jays want the difference covered, while the Reds will only pay a portion, or something along those lines. Then again, Buster Trollney isn't exactly the best source for anything baseball related.
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Yep. Improves the defense, and Jackson at the very least will stay healthy and provide a 1-2 WAR for a season. That's more than I can say for Saunders, unless his knee has miraculously healed (the fact that he's being shopped probably disproves that theory).
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Their drunken conversation of Pillar being a great lead off hitter and Bruce batting 3rd in 2017 was probably worth listening to.
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Blair is actually Tweeting that s***, but it's not surprising.
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I don't disagree that Bruce could be bad. They obviously disagree, though. As I said, as long as they are not adding payroll or trading anyone other than Saunders, it's a meh trade for me. I would have traded Saunders to the Angels and just signed Jackson, as someone else suggested, to be honest.
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I don't want Bruce. I'm just saying if the deal is just Saunders/Bruce with no increased payroll obligations and no prospects involved, then I don't see the big deal. Saunders was a non-tender candidate for me.
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If they think Bruce can bounce back offensively, and don't have to add payroll or trade prospects in this swap, then what's the big deal? Saunders is a year removed from knee surgery and missing all of 2015. There's no guarantee he's going to be healthy or good. If they think Bruce's offense can be fixed, and that's all they have to give up to see if it can, then it's not worthy of negative backlash. If no money is involved, or the Jays are sending meaningful prospects, then that's a different story.
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Lake or Carrera, most likely. Unless they pick someone else up.
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If the deal from the Jays end is just Saunders for Bruce, then I don't see why it would make anyone think less of Shapiro. I'm not a Bruce fan by any means, but Saunders is not even close to a sure thing as far as staying healthy, and Bruce does have some offensive upside. To me it comes down to 1. how much money the Reds are picking up, and 2. what else the Jays are giving up. If it's Saunders for Bruce with the Jays not picking up any (or much) salary and no prospect is involved, and it's a meh trade at worst. It really depends on those two things. Of course, reviewing Saunders' records might take us into the start of the season.
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The difference in salary between Bruce and Saunders is so big that I can't possibly see the Jays paying the difference. There has to be a s*** ton of money being covered, and maybe the Jays have to throw in a prospect to compensate for that. Hopefully not a good one.
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Saunders for prospect(s) and then sign Jackson? I'm sold. I don't trust Saunders' knee at all.
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Yeah, seriously. I can't see Shapiro trading a decent prospect for Bruce, but I'm going to be a little nervous until something is confirmed (whether the deal happens or not).
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Come on Shapiro/Atkins, don't trade prospects for Jay frickin Bruce.
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If the Reds are picking up the difference, then I'm fine with it. I wasn't expecting s*** from Saunders on one knee, so if the Jays are paying Bruce the equivalent of $2.9m to see if his bat can be fixed, then so be it. If he fails, then decline the option for next year and move. If he bounces back, then you have a LF/DH/1B option for 2017. But yeah, not looking forward to him playing LF.