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  1. glory
    The sad thing is the 2nd WC is so pitiful that these 3 blown saves by Osuna has pretty much been the difference between being seriously in it to out of it.
  2. glory
    They have Cano, Segura, and Seager as their infield. They don't need Tulo.
  3. glory
    The Reds were eating up $8mm of Bruce's salary from what I remember reading at the time. Between that and the extra year of control, it made sense for the Jays to value Bruce more than a one legged man. In hindsight, Bruce in left, Pearce at DH, and Morales on another team would have looked hella good right about now. The fact that Atkins guessed right on Smoak and Bruce gives me some hope for Morales, I guess.
  4. glory
    I'd rather have Pearce than Morales, but yeah, Atkins was the one that signed Morales mad early in the off season. They obviously like him. They have admitted mistakes before (Upton), but I think they will stick it out with Morales for at least another year sadly since he has $23mm left on his contract. If they are willing to eat up half or more of that in a trade then it's probably worth it just to make the DH spot more flexible for some of the older players on the team, but don't see it happening.
  5. glory
    Anyone who thinks Otani is not going to the Dodgers is fooling themselves.
  6. glory
    They'd have to eat a pretty large chunk of it to get another team to take him. They might see more value in getting an actual asset back for Pearce rather than punting $15-20mil to get rid of Morales, who they liked enough to overpay in the first place. Which is a shame because Pearce is better but there's clearly too many DH/1B types on this roster. Someone has to go.
  7. glory
    Barney starting over Refsynder. Ugh.
  8. glory
    I remember Shapiro was on the radio about a month back and he mentioned the possibility of bringing Estrada back next season, and when the interviewer asked about Liriano (possibly coming back next season) Shaps seemed dismissive of it. I think the Jays bringing Estrada back next season is a very real possibility. That doesn't mean they won't trade him, but I think they might value him a bit more than Liriano who they basically paid to go somewhere else so they could get an asset in return.
  9. glory
    Wow if the Jays get a better prospect for Liriano than Smith, then that's pretty damn surprising. I guess money talks.
  10. glory
    $3m, 1.0 WAR, and now two prospects. Overall a nice tenure for Joe Smith in Toronto.
  11. glory
    I could see the Jays trading either Pearce or Bautista now in order to give everyday AB's to Hernandez for the rest of the season.
  12. glory
    Wow, good move. Basically paying for Liriano and Aoki in order to get a decent prospect. Might as well use the money for good.
  13. glory
    Yeah, Aoki was a dump by the Astros. Just have to hope the minor leaguer is some sort of compensation for the Jays taking Aoki and giving up the better (of the two s*****) players.
  14. glory
    Aoki is arb eligible in 2018, but I don't even know if that's a positive. He's been pretty bad this year and is 35. Any word on the minor leaguer?
  15. glory
    Aoki is probably for salary reasons. Wonder who the minor leaguer is.
  16. glory
    They should. Team isn't strapped for cash. If anything, that's the one advantage they have in trades. Just eat up salary for everyone except Smith and get a better return, even if it's marginal.
  17. glory
    Eh, even though Hutch sucks, and Liriano was crap this season, I think they still did pretty well. Added some depth to the farm system for pretty much nothing and took a reasonable gamble with Liriano that worked in '16 and flopped in '17.
  18. glory
    Myles Straw. Just looked up an outfield from Sickels top prospect list at random. That's my guess.
  19. glory
    Now we're talking. I knew we could get something, even marginal. Hopefully the Astros are pulling another JD Martinez blunder.
  20. glory
    Yeah there is no excuse for Smith to still be on this team tomorrow. He has performed well and good RP's have value around this time. I can understand teams not giving up value for Estrada, Liriano, and Jose, but Smith is the perfect trade deadline pick up for someone.
  21. glory
    Dexter Fowler is the same age as Lucroy and got over $80mm last winter. I mean, when you have a wrc+ of 66, you can't expect a huge trade market.
  22. glory
    Sure, if the Jays were in the race right now, then it would be a good time to be a buyer. It's clearly a bad time to be a seller of struggling vets (if there is ever a good time). I just want there to be some upside to either trading the player or keeping him, and that's even more important if the Jays want to go for another run next season because assets are movable. Say what you want about Harold Ramirez and Reese McGuire, but you can move those guys if need be. Quantity can be an asset for a farm system, as long as it's not at the expense of quality. If the Jays got Sparkman for Liriano, and then Sparkman turns into even a middle reliever, that's an asset. It's worth something, even if very little. But letting Liriano and Estrada go for nothing, while a perfectly likely scenario with how the market has played out this deadline and how bad both players have been, would be pretty disappointing all things considered. It wouldn't be the end of the world if they left for nothing, but I'm in the camp of "something is better than nothing".
  23. glory
    Oh no question, aim higher than those guys. I don't even want them back necessarily. I'm just saying if they can't be traded, then one benefit might be trying to work something out with them since their market should be depressed and I don't see Shapiro spending money in the free agent SP market. They might be cheap enough to where they could be reasonable bounce back candidates if other options are unavailable/too expensive.
  24. glory
    You want the Jays to go for it next year when they are old as s*** and their system is still realistically a couple of years away from producing talent , I get that. But that makes getting value all the more important. If you let Estrada and Liriano go for nothing, sure, you live with it. They aren't major assets in a trade right now. But you're not going to get FA pitching cheaply, and the one benefit to keeping those guys might be working out a deal for next year. Otherwise what's the f***ing point? Trade one of them for Glenn Sparkman and the other for DJ Davis' bastardized clone in another org and call it a day. At least it's something. I'll take a lottery ticket over nothing. A team with a 40 man roster crunch next year may give up something (even a Refsynder equivalent works for me). Fast forward a year from now and JD is a free agent. I hope you are on my side of the "value" camp with him if he's a trade chip next year.
  25. glory
    I'm starting to wonder if bringing both Estrada and Liriano back on cheap one year deals is possible. The Jays literally have nothing in the way of pitching prospects that are ready for 2018. I mean if you can't trade them then maybe bringing them back is a better use of them as assets (assuming the price is ok).
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