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I generally like Nick Nurse but I don’t understand why he loves Patrick McCaw so much.
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Managers will have to think extra hard about which relievers to use now since that RP will have to face at least 3 batters. It will still involve a chess game with managers, just different. Multiple mid inning pitching changes are obnoxious. That needed to go away.
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Reese McGuire arrested in Florida for exposing himself..
glory replied to gruber92's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yeah, I don't see any reason why someone should be watching porn in their car, much less with pants around the ankles. Reese is never going to live this down. -
I like the 3 batter minimum. I hated relievers coming in to face one batter, and it got worse in September with the expanded rosters. It won't be an issue now with the 3 batter rule and shortened September rosters.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
If Font pitches better in 2 inning stints every 3-4 days as an opener, then I don't see the harm in doing that. The only starter who shouldn't get an opener is Ryu. Everyone else is fair game in that regard. If Font does well as a traditional RP out of the pen, then even better. -
Bauer goes off on Manfred.
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Always expected this with Pardinho for some reason. Pitching prospects man.
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So Pillar will be able to get his return curtain call in front of a sold out crowd (or as close to a sellout as the 2020 Jays will probably get). Good for him. Unfortunately Donaldson's return was in front of the same amount of people you'd see in line at Costco on a Wednesday afternoon, so it didn't feel as special.
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I think they want to incentivize mediocrity, not over being great, but over tanking. Basically, win 85 games every year and have a real shot at a playoff spot, rather than intentionally lose 90+ games because you feel the playoffs are impossible. Teams need to stop tanking. The baseball season is long and boring enough when you're a fan of a great team. It's almost torture when you're a fan of a team that is tanking. If adding more playoff teams means less scorched earth BS tanking (Orioles, Tigers, etc), then that's definitely one benefit.
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Baseball isn't in any immediate danger right now, but in ten years if their TV deals are structured differently and/or the product isn't as desirable to networks anymore, then it's going to make a significant difference. The average fan is damn near close to retirement age. Manfred clearly has no clue how to market his players, and MLBAM makes it next to impossible for the game to get promoted outside of the MLB umbrella. So basically the only way to appeal to TV networks is to give them more meaningful original content (more playoff games), and more teams being in the race might help increase attendance during the season which is getting worse every year. The NBA is thriving now and even they are implementing some weird in season tournament next year which I don't even fully understand. Baseball has to evolve at some point. I don't know if this is the right way to do it, but the status quo that makes the current fans happy clearly is not attracting newer fans.
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I hate the idea of more teams making the playoffs, but MLB is not exactly on fire as far as attendance and mainstream marketability. Even looking at highlights and seeing stadiums 1/3 filled in July is disgusting and bad for the sport. I don't know if increasing the number of playoff teams would improve attendance, especially if teams find the benefit of outright tanking to be more beneficial than getting a WC spot, but at this point MLB needs to do something to attract more fans during the season. I didn't read the entire thing because I had a long day at work and don't feel like trying to decipher that playoff format, maybe I'll do it in the morning, but this was inevitable. Plus if there are more inventory of playoff games, then it increases the game's marketability to TV networks as the article said (original live content is coveted nowadays).
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Joc would be an upgrade, but with one year of control left until he's a FA, I don't think the Jays would have much interest.
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Vacating the title would have solved everything, in hindsight. Players/fans would have still be upset, but that's the ultimate punishment. Instead they gave a slap on the wrist. This stuff is far from over.
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So unless I'm missing something: Dodgers: Betts, Price, Graterol, Raley, 67th pick in 2020 draft, $48m from Red Sox Red Sox: Verdugo, Downs, Wong Twins: Maeda, $10m from Dodgers, low level prospect I also like the deal better for the Red Sox than the original since Graterol is likely a RP, but that actually works out for the Dodgers since they could use a potential high leverage RP (assuming Graterol is actually healthy) and Downs is redundant for them. Dodgers made out really well here.
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Raiding the Rays front office probably sounded better in theory.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Shatkins is big on depth, and Alford was a top 60 prospect two years ago. Seems like a reasonable gamble to take by keeping him, especially since the Jays aren't exactly loaded in the OF. -
That’s my hunch. Kinda like the reverse AA/Marlins trade. That trade leaked and Jays fans nutted all over their keyboards, so AA didn’t back out even when Johnson failed his physical. This trade leaked, Red Sox fans hated it, and now Graterol is so damaged that a trade cannot he worked out. I mean maybe it is just as it seems (Graterol failed his physical and they can’t agree on a alternate trade) but seems fishy to me. Not a good start for the Red Sox GM.
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Yes I get that part, but seems like it would be a pretty easy fix (replace Graterol with someone else, add another prospect, etc). Instead it seems to be dragging and Rosenthal posted that the MLBPA is upset with the whole thing. Just seems more convoluted than it needs to be.
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Is this a case of the Red Sox agreeing to the trade, seeing the backlash from the fans, and getting cold feet, or is there something legitimately wrong with Graterol that warrants another top prospect (which is apparently what the Sox are asking for)? This whole thing is ridiculous.
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The only place the Raptors could have upgraded was SF (OG hasn't been very good) but no one who was actually moved in other trades would have made a difference. No point making a lateral move or marginal upgrade. OG is still young, so even if he's just a role player long term, they don't have to move him now. Stick with the current group and see what happens. The Raptors (like a lot of teams) are preserving cap space for 2021 when Giannis is a FA. They won't add anyone whose contracts runs beyond next season, so that limits their options as well.
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Big market teams operating like the Rays would be boring as hell. That's likely part of the backlash here. The Red Sox should not be making value driven decisions by trading a HOF level talent in his 20's. The Rays doing it is one thing since they trade anyone who makes a 7 figure salary, and they have no fanbase to add revenue, but the Red Sox draw 3 mil a year and are a cash cow. They shouldn't have to do this, even if it might make some baseball sense (Betts wants to test FA, they get more years of control, etc).
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Betts has been adamant about testing free agency. He turned down $200m two years ago, and apparently wants over $400m. I don't blame him. Someone as great as him should maximize his earnings, and he's confident enough to bet on himself. The Red Sox may have been able to extend him if they gave him Trout money (assuming Betts was open to an extension now) but they weren't going to do that with their luxury tax concerns.
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I don't think the Dodgers are losers. They gave up players they didn't need, got back one of the best players in the game for at least his age 27 season (if not more if they re-sign him) and Price at half of his contract. I think every team got what they wanted out of this. The only team that I think overpaid is the Twins for Maeda, but they know more about Graterol than anyone else. If he's a RP long term then it's not as bad.
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So from the reports, sounds like.... Twins get: Maeda Red Sox get: Verdugo, Graterol (more?) Dodgers get: Betts, Price, and half of Price's salary paid by the Red Sox Of course there could be more to the deal, and no follow up to Joc/Angels yet.