Maico450

Not sure why all the dislike for Gurriel Jr. This kid is 2 years from playing in Cuba, and 1 year from being unable to hit at Dunedin. Sure he has some things to learn, but so does every other 25 year old. All I see is UPSIDE. and I love seeing him play.

I think we need to forget about winning, and enjoy the arrival of the NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK. There will at least be some excitement.

I'm sure curious to see Vlad Jr play 3B in ST this year, I want to see his reflexes on hard hit balls, and his agility on fielding infield rollers.

I guess this moves Urena to Buffalo for depth, as it should be. Only 22 and could use some more work in minors. Galvis also could bring a decent prospect back at trade deadline. So this signing does make sense.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/canon-eos-rebel-sl2-dslr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-is-stm-lens-white/6157902.p?skuId=6157902 Spanky is just a bit weak on spelling. The knitting classes took up too much time.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/cannon-fodder Did you not read any history?

Cannon fodder.

The early Jays could score some runs, but the bullpens were horrendous. One of the reasons that Stieb pitched so many innings was that a tired Stieb was still better than any pitcher in the pen. One year Gillick decided to fix the pen and signed Gary Lavelle and Bill Caudill. Lavelle was OK as a middle reliever, Caudill threw gas on the fire. We went a lot of years with a bare cupboard until Gillick acquired Henke.

With todays HOF voting, and the corresponding commentary about Roy Halladay getting in on the 1st ballot, it brought back my memories of Dave Stieb. My 1st thoughts were, was Halladay a better pitcher than Stieb? Having watched both pitchers through their Jays careers my initial thoughts were NO. However looking back on the career stats I changed my opinion, they were close. Halladays success in Philly gave him a slight edge. Then I got looking at CY awards, Halladay 2, Stieb 0. The closest Stieb came was a 4th place in 1982. Pete Vuckovitch won that year, despite Stiebs better numbers in virtually every statistical category...https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/1982_American_League_Cy_Young_Award In 1984 Stieb was 7th. That was Willie Hernandez sensational year on the WS winning Tigers, and he won the CY award as a reliever, with Bert Blylevin coming in 3rd as top SP...https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/1984_American_League_Cy_Young_Award Stieb matched Blylevin in most stat categories, except Blylevin received 45 CYA points, to Stiebs 1. In 1985 Stieb was 8th. https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/1985_American_League_Cy_Young_Award Brett Saberhagen won it with 127 points, to Stiebs total of 2 points, even though Stieb matched or beat Saberhagen in several statistical categories IP, ERA,SO, and shutouts. Using WAR, Halladay has an advantage, 65 war to Stiebs 56, a definite Plus, again his Philly time helped out +17 War. Doc was a great pitcher, but Stieb was pretty close, but never got the recognition. His personality was never appreciated by the sportscasters. This cost him in both CY voting, and HOF eligibility.

When you need your grass cut, what do you look for?

I don't see how the Jays could have benefitted more, than this trade. Martin was clogging up the catching depth, there are 2 better catchers currently available with 1 more close. Both teams appeared to agree that Martins true value was 3.6 million. So what do you get back for a 36 year old mediocre catcher? 2 minor league players that have a bit of upside, while not requiring to be put on the 40 man roster. How do you top that?

Use, to sit on the bench, and take up a roster spot?

Brito potential GG shortstop. Sopko High k SP depth, will probably max out at AAAA.

Trade Pillar, and we might be happy to have Pompey.

My thoughts regarding Pompey are that if they were going to let him go, it would have been prior to the rule 5 draft. The scouts must still see some upside there, but we will all see what happens shortly.

You don't think there have been some trade discussions on the vets? Could be a couple already worked out. The vets have to go, and it is better than losing prospects.

A trade of one of the vets would solve the problem.

Richards can make starts to reduce the innings that guys like SRF, Gaviglio, Thornton, Pannone, Pearson etc would have to make, without him. It takes 10+ SP to get through a season, so having a 3 mill Veteran there to make 30 starts, takes the clock time off the kids. Wins this year are irrelevant. Its all about easing the kids in and limiting the service time.

Or you could say that the Jays had the 14th worst offense in MLB last year. Or you could say that they had the 6th worst offence in the AL.

I think that the 2019 Jays team will be a transition team, not worried about immediate results. There were other, more mature players available to draft if they were looking for short term results.

40 innings. 5.00 era. 40 SO. 40 BB. 12 GF. Here all year and in Dunedin and New Hampshire in 2020. They did not draft this kid, just to give him back.

Would it matter to the Jays if Tulo put up a +5 season in a Jays uniform. No. He was blocking Gurriels development and would never take a bench role. Long time ago he was an asset. Time to retire.

I think that all of the vets could/should be moved. Its just a matter of the Jays covering most/all of the salaries, which they are going to anyways. Smoak should be the easiest to move, Pillar and Morales a bit more difficult, Martin the hardest salary to digest, but the Jays ate 38M of Tulos salary. Martin may be an easier sell in ST when there are catcher injuries and teams need to add catcher depth. I am sure that Stro and Sanchez will return some quality pitching prospects back. If not now, then at the trade deadline.

Here I am, pissed that the only veteran that has been moved of the roster is Tulo. I expected to see a couple traded during the GM meetings, but not even a hint.

To think they turned down the opportunity to resign Ryan Goins. This guy must be good.