TwistedLogic

The rebuild from 2012 to 2014 wasn't made on the basis of sandwich and comp picks. I do hope it's tougher to rebuild this time, because it means the Jays are winning and signing free agents, but they have three to four years before this current window begins to close, and that's a lot more time than they've needed in the past.

I don't think Beane is a better GM than AA, and if he is, it isn't by a lot. And calling Silverman a top-10 GM is nothing but pure Rays fanboy favoritism. He's done nothing to give us any impression that he's a top-10 GM yet, he barely has a track record.

When the Blue Jays made their signature moves in the infamous offseason of 2012, they didn't just acquire a host of big named players and take on a ton of salary; they gave up on a lot of their future prospect capital. Trading away pieces like Noah Syndergaard, Travis d'Arnaud, Jake Marisnick, Yan Gomes and Henderson Alvarez was no small story, and in complete fairness, nobody acted like it was. Many were upset over the talent that the Jays turned their back on in a year where going all-in was a suspect approach at best, considering where they were on the win-curve. As much as people have a right to be upset over what happened in 2012, one thing that nobody can deny is this: the Blue Jays front office under Alex Anthopoulos, for all their faults and flaws, have shown a very strong propensity to rebuild the farm system. Many believed that in 2012, the Jays had obliterated hopes of their future for a shot to win now. Very little talent was left in the system beyond Aaron Sanchez and Anthony Gose, with names like Osuna, Stroman and Norris still unproven or far away. Just two years after the much maligned offseason of 2012, the Jays had rebuilt an arsenal of prospects rich enough to afford them trades for Devon Travis, Michael Saunders, Josh Donaldson, Troy Tulowitzki and David Price in a span of eight months, while having promoted Marcus Stroman, Aaron Sanchez and Roberto Osuna to the major leagues. When Anthopoulos became the GM in 2009, he inherited a bottom ranked farm system. Two years was all it for the new administration to evolve the system into one of the best in the game, and two years was all it took to return it to that level after the blockbuster moves of 2012. If we are to take into account this team's ability to draft, sign and develop prospects in recent history, they should have more than enough time before their current major league core is gone to rebuild the system. 6 years of control after 2015: Dalton Pompey, Anthony Alford 5 years of control after 2015: Troy Tulowitzki, Marcus Stroman, Devon Travis, Kevin Pillar, Roberto Osuna, Aaron Sanchez 4 years of control after 2015: Russell Martin, Liam Hendriks, Chris Colabello 3 years of control after 2015: Josh Donaldson, Drew Hutchison, Aaron Loup, Steve Delabar

Luis Severino coming in to replace Pineda while he's hurt.

Holy s***, what a tweet! lmao

Based on AA's comments at the presser right now it looks like they view Revere as a 4th OF once Saunders is back. The fact that they're not going to misuse him and they value him for exactly what he is makes this deal so much better than I thought it would have been. Strongly approve.

AJ Preller is f***ing terrible!

Using Revere in the ninth makes this a very good deal IMO.

Phillies sending the Jays cash as well, lol.

T-minus 15 minutes.

After keeping track of everything all morning, what I can say is that the Jays were said to be in on Revere several hours ago. Then it was reported they didn't have interest in him, until people started mentioning that the price for Revere was dropping. Shortly after that, it was reported that the Jays were back in, and indeed had a deal for him done. Now they're saying that the deal is simply pending medicals. So it's safe to assume the Phillies asked for a lot, but maybe the Jays said no, until their price came down. Still, with the amount of control Revere still has left, I won't be comfortable until the full trade is revealed, and I'll remain paranoid about losing Pompey or Alford.

Clench your *******s.

Revere > Melky

If ever an AA trade would get leaked before it was done, it would be with the Phillies.

If they wanted Revere, they should have just picked up Rajai as part of an extension of the Price trade.

Somebody who shall not be named just tweeted that "multiple industry sources are questioning if Revere has been dealt to the Jays".

If they gave up Alford or Pompey for Revere, I'll lol so hard.

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/5114-Tulo-and-Hawkins-to-the-Jays-for-Reyes-Castro-Hoffman-and-Tinoco?p=665578#post665578 Good work, Detective Spanky.