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Or Vlad always saw himself as Tatis and that would've felt INSANE either of the previous two offseasons.

It's very funny that people will log onto a blue jays forum, click on a blue jays draft thread, and then decide to make a post bragging about how they don't follow the draft because it's a crapshoot and waste of time. How courageous and noble!

Willing to risk the board going down again for another update post.

Turner turned down $13.4M in favour of a $6.7M buy out, so he simply say his market as > $6.7M. Not that he won't end up signing for more than $13.4M, but just wanted to point out his camp did not necessarily think his FA appeal would be > $13.4M when they chose to turn down the option.

Tough to see Gilbert and Jones as top 50 guys when Jays could've landed them in the first round last year instead of an overslot HS arm...

Anyone have the BP updated midseason top 50?

Sam Shaw was 139 on Kiley's final draft rankings list, so he may be an overslot sign as a HS kid.

If Nick Frasso performing well in AA for another team is your worst trade in 7+ years, then you've got a pretty solid trade history. I really hate the trade, but people are completely irrational about it. Basically every active FO has an awful trade to their name, including LAD, TB, CLE etc. And the Frasso profile is/was so volatile, given late bloomer/injury history status.

When 90% the entire roster is in arbitration, the money off the books via FA departures is immediately chewed up by raises to the existing players.

No he didn’t, lol. If someone reports that a player has signed with a team (with incorrect terms btw), FIVE days before that player actually signs, the report wasn’t correct. It was a guess which seemed plausible in team and term, soon before the lockout was about to start. This meant it was a good time to throw s*** against the wall given that everyone expected a lot of signings very soon at that time. Also, his profile pic is actually a former FIFA exec. Boboa isn’t a real person.

Why in the world would a team do this when they could’ve traded a C level prospect for him at 1/~$18M yesterday? Ignoring the option stuff here, if he ends up making more than $18M in 2023, it’ll be because he got a base much lower than $15M with some big incentives that he reaches, imo.

Does anyone actually care about how his dad is? Doesn't impact my thoughts, or anyone I knows thoughts, on him as a player.

Where is statcast data for minor leaguers publicly available?

Anyone have BP with access to today’s PECOTA standings release?

Edward Rogers has a good relationship with Shapiro, who is critical. The FO has been given the reins to do basically what they want, backed by big resources. He's approved the continued climbing payrolls, along with the big contracts they've recently given out. Absolutely, there have been missteps/dumb moves. But what the Jays have going on right now is heavily supported by Edward, which is pretty critical for the org. If the team is sold to a non Eddie person, that could be problematic for FO continuity. That's all I really care about, letting this FO see this through and stick around for a long time.

He's currently the chair of the Blue Jays, and their control person with major league baseball. If he wanted/wants to meddle, he can be doing so as is. He seems to love Shapiro and is allowing payroll to escalate. He's good for the Jays.

1) Again, why is there an automatic assumption that government decisions wouldn't apply to athletes? 2) In the case of NY, the rules apply to indoor venues, so Yankee/Mets players won't be impacted. However, there's a reason Kyrie isn't playing rn and it's because government policy didn't make an exemption for star athletes. Pretty foreign concept to some here that government policy and the interests of baseball teams may not align! And in some cases, the answer will be to simply deal with it.

Why are people so convinced that there will be an exemption made for the Jays, when the announcement of the mandatory vaxx for pro or amateur athletes was just announced? Ya, pretty wild that the Jays international status would be impacted by COVID/vaccination, given how we haven't seen that before (besides the first 18 months of COVID, of course).

It's true, I occasionally post here! Last night was a wild ride, never ended up popping in here. Just catching up now!

I don't think the Mets actually care about paying the tiny amount of tax a 2021 overage would bring. They just don't want to start their lux tax clock this year, knowing that they will for sure be exceeding it next year and likely the years beyond. Trying not to start accumulating more significant future penalties by trying to stay under it this year alone.

Cool, thanks for your input

I think Heyman used "declined to comment" unfairly. Luba didn't reply to his texts yesterday, but that isn't the same as "declined to comment", especially if the texts were during the same day.

PASSAN - Springer might be the most fascinating of all because of the teams vying for his services: the New York Mets and Toronto Blue Jays. There are others, too, but executives believe this is a two-team race between the duo seen as the likely biggest spenders this winter. Certainly this benefits Springer; bidding wars these days are few and far between. But Springer also understands that there are scenarios in which both teams go in another direction. The Blue Jays, sources said, have emerged as significant players in the LeMahieu sweepstakes -- perhaps the biggest threat to him re-signing with the New York Yankees, with whom a significant gap remains. The Mets also have expressed interest in LeMahieu. New York is seen by a number of executives as the best landing spot for Bauer. Both the Mets and Jays are seen as potential trade targets for Francisco Lindor, as well, though Toronto is the likelier partner. And as Joel Sherman suggested in the New York Post, the idea of the Mets staying out of the high-end market altogether and building depth before the monster free-agent class of 2021-22 isn't far-fetched. Wherever Springer (and Bauer and LeMahieu and Realmuto for that matter) winds up, it won't be for some paltry sum. Even if the market is slow, one thing that hasn't changed about free agency is that the best players always get paid and paid handsomely.