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Santander fits the Jays lineup better than Profar. Jays needed a masher who could hit 30-40 HR's.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
jaysblue replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
For this season, definitely want both haha. But yeah sure why not, it's not my money lol. Alonso at least is a good insurance policy if Vlad walks at the end of the season. If Vladdy could play a passable third base for over 100 games per season, that would be pretty sweet! -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
jaysblue replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I would rather have Alonso at 3/$75M or 4/$100M over Vladdy at 450M. Alonso makes a lot of sense for a number of reasons, both in the short term and long term. If Vladdy walks, you still have a 30-40 HR middle-of-the-order power bat at 1B and could still likely be competitive with an Alonso/Santander middle-of-the-order over the next 3-4 years. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
jaysblue replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Montgomery only has one year left whereas Springer has two more years. Also, Arizona's outfield is already set with Carroll, McCarthy, LGJ along with Alek Thomas & Pavin Smith. Unless they use Springer strictly at DH, though I'm sure Arizona will use the DH spot to rotate Naylor, LGJ and Smith. -
The Sheriff was a huge Richard Lovelady fan! He must be going crazy and getting buzzed tonight!
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Gotta act quick haha.
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I just picked up Tim Anderson and dropped Myles Straw in the LOD.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
jaysblue replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Why don't you create a Politics thread and leave these threads just for baseball? -
At the end of the day, I want the Jays to win, whether Atkins is still the GM or someone else. Still will take the Jays 2015 and 2016 seasons over the 2022 and 2023 seasons.
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What did I say that was so bad? The 2015 and 2016 teams had legit chances at reaching the World Series. Those were fun seasons.
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Imagine if the Jays added Pete Alonso as well. Signing two potential 40 HR bats, along with Vladdy and Bo both having monster seasons in their FA year. What a fun lineup that would be to watch!
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Because he just did lol. Okay, maybe he'll OBP .300 instead. Big deal.
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Wouldn't say 2015 was the end of AA's window. The core was still very good and made it to the ALCS again in 2016. Both teams had great chances at making the World Series, two years in a row. But yeah sucks they came up short against the Royals and Cleveland those years. As for 2017, who knows if AA was still around what other moves he would have made during the offseason. AA decided to go all in starting in 2013, which backfired and the team was somewhat decent (83-79) in 2014, but not good enough. Donaldson + Martin the following offseason really helped, but the additions at the trade deadline really pushed the Jays over the final two months and into the Postseason.
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You know the NFL has been pushing all season for the Chiefs to make it back to the Super Bowl. Bills are the better team but I'm sure the Chiefs will get some help on Sunday.
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Well, if the Jays don't sign a bat like Alonso haha, Wagner likely gets most of the AB's at DH. We'll see what happens.
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I wouldn't bat Springer lead off in my opinion. But I bet they still do. Could be wrong. If you get 2022 Gimenez, for sure. Not sure you can trust his sub .300 OBP in the leadoff spot. If he proves himself early on, he could move up quick. Agreed with Kirk. Tough to put him anywhere in the lineup since he's going to block pretty much everyone haha. You could switch Gimenez with Kirk.
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Ideally, would rather have Springer down in the order, but I bet he's going to be given another chance to leadoff. Would rather have Bo leadoff and hit Vladdy second with Santander third. Get your best players the most AB's possible. If Springer is leadoff, lineup probably looks like this: RF Springer SS Bichette 1B Vladdy LF Santander CF Varsho C Kirk 2B Gimenez DH Wagner 3B Clement Bottom of the order, doesn't really matter. Figure Varsho bats 5th ahead of Kirk, since Kirk is slow on the base paths and don't want to block Varsho and his base running, which is one of his strengths. If guys like Wagner and Gimenez hit well, you can move them up.
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Clement doesn't hit for more power. It's pretty much a wash. Kim has shown he could potentially hit 20 HR's (17 in 2023 playing half his games at Petco). OBP is a big deal. Kim is far superior. Means he generates less outs and gives the Jays a better chance to score more runs. A .350 OBP is a huge upgrade over a .280 OBP over a full season.
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I said I hope he doesn't become this guy. At the end of the day, Shatkins is the one making the big bucks to make these decisions, and yes if most of their FA deals don't work out, they're the one's accountable. I hope Varsho becomes a 125wRC+ bat haha. If he does, great! Definitely Shatkins deserve credit. I really couldn't care about the Santander contract. It's not my money. I'm actually excited we signed a 40+ HR bat and hope he can help the Jays into the Postseason. I think we all do.
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Bet 365 gave me my full cash out which was nice. I got $100 riding on the Athletics still haha.
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Yeah Kim's OBP is also far superior, which does allow him to steal more. Makes a difference. You can also hit Kim near the top of the lineup, whereas Clement on a contending team at best could only hit at 8th or 9th. I don't have an issue with Clement starting at 3B if the Jays added other bats in the lineup to make up for his spot in the lineup. Ideally, Clement as a super utility guy who can play all over the field and work his way into 300-400 AB's would be better. As well, with Bo likely leaving after 2025, signing Kim might not be a bad thing.
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This lineup needed a power bat spanning over the last two years regardless. Don't have to be an armchair GM to recognize that. Whether Santander is the right fit, we'll see. Could backfire if he all of a sudden just becomes a .290 OBP guy with 25 HR's. Let's hope not. Hopefully we get a couple more 40+ HR seasons from him! Would be nice if Atkins could continue to add. Alonso or Bregman + Mad Max would be nice final touches! Definitely would bring some excitement heading into the 2025 season!
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You get the sense the Jays had to do something big on Monday after the negative headlines they've been receiving from the Sasaki fiasco over the weekend. Heck, when Mike Wilner is even critical and calls for Shatkins to be fired, you know it's bad. Signing Santander today makes Sasaki old news and definitely acts a distraction.
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I already cashed out and got my $100 back haha.
