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Spanky, sent you a trade in the DDL. Take a look.

Traded Cecil to the Cubs. Paying some of his salary, but saved more more than just outright dropping him.

I'm sure if Chavez had a 9 something ERA after his first three starts, this conversation/thread wouldn't be happening. There was nothing that suggested Chavez was going to be successful as a MLB starter. If Oakland had Griffin and Parker, Chavez would be in the pen right now. Some doors opened for him and he's getting an opportunity, which is great for him! And so far, its paying off. For how long though? Not sure. It's only 3 starts, and I'm not getting tricked into stats this early in the season after 14 games into a 162 game season. If his arm could hold up over a full season of a starters workload, he can be a decent I think as I've stated previously. I'm definitely rooting for the guy, though to think you saw this start coming is pretty egotistic. It was not "plain dumb" for the Jays to give up a 28-year-old swingman who has been below replacement level for his entire MLB career. Unless you have a crystal ball that could predict the breakouts of 28-30 year old veterans like Jose Bautista etc, then kudos to you.

Spanky, sent you a trade offer in the DDL

Sent you a trade offer in the DDL

Aaron Harang was a FA, though people have been bidding on him. I just claim Chavez for 500K since he's not a FA and not on anyone's MLB/minor league roster.

I'm thinking of doing it and hopping on the Jesse Chavez bandwagon. Cecil is tough to drop for nothing but I could always trade for a middle reliever.

His control as a starter in Vegas and so far this season has been impeccable. I definitely have soft spots for pitchers who are always around the plate. Spanky even donated a jersey to me of one haha. Not sure he'll maintain that 1.9 BB/9 rate, though he should still be solid in that department limiting free passes. I caught some of his last start, flipping back and forth between games on MLB TV, and he did look good from what I saw. Has a nice over-the-top hook and his fastball I think was in the low-90's. It'll be interesting to see if he could hold up as a starter, since he's never tossed a lot of innings before in a single season. His 130.2 IP in 2012 was the most he's thrown in a season and last time he topped the 100 inning mark was in 2004. I'll definitely circle his next start on my calendar and watch it on MLB TV - he might be a nice guy to follow in 2014. If he puts together a 2 WAR season, that definitely valuable no doubt. I think Gaudin started off hot in 2007 and then he tired down the stretch - I think expecting a similar 2 WAR season is reasonable from Chavez if he makes 30 starts. And if his control and K rates hold up, he could be better which wouldn't shock me. At the same time, he can s*** the bed in May and everyone forgets the epic tale of Jesse Chavez.

I have no problem with dropping Morales, though I'd only free up 125K so I'd need to drop Cecil as well to save the rest since its a 100M cap.

Speaking of Jesse Chavez...should I claim him in my 30-team dynasty league for 500K haha? Shocked nobody has yet. Thing is, I'd have to drop Brett Cecil and Franklin Morales to clear salary.

I think he can be decent. Don't expect him to sustain this success as a starter however. His career WAR is still -0.2, so he really hasn't displayed success over an extended period of time at the MLB level, and was hardly used as a starter in the minors. I think he can go on and have a similar season like Chad Gaudin did in 2007 (1.9 WAR) over a full season. Definitely possible if he's able to hold up for 200 innings. I just don't see how people all of a sudden have projected him to be such a great starter when he doesn't have a long history of being a starter in both the majors and the minors. Also, it's not like he's been lights out in the minors anyways and he's already 30-years-old. It's a nice story to see no doubt, though there is no way anybody saw this start coming and it's pretty unlikely this continues.

Have you followed Jesse Chavez since he was drafted?

Career .313 OBP

It's not like he's 22 or 23 - he was 28 when the Jays let him go and spent most of his career as a reliever. He has never had success as a starter in the minors and he's only made 24 career starts in the minors as well. He's been mostly a reliever all throughout his career. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon after he's only made 3 starts. I need to see more than that to believe he is for real. As for the Jays letting go of him, what did Chavez show before that warranted him staying around? Not much. So I'm not upset that the Jays didn't keep Chavez.

Though can't hit. I'm shocked he hasn't been called up for the time being. It's crazy that the Jays are playing Bautista in CF. They can't afford him getting hurt.

Two starts against Minnesota and Seattle - not the deepest lineups in baseball. I'll give him the Angels, though they were without Hamilton and outside of Trout and Pujols, the rest of their lineup is nothing to fear.

Also, if Bautista does get injured playing CF, I think AA should be to blame. Never went out there this offseason and tried to get a backup CF.

They better tell him not to play like he's Grady Sizemore out there, crashing into walls and diving for balls and such. The Jays can't afford missing Bautista for any extended period of time.

I'll take Bautista.

McCown and Cox will for sure on PTS.

Lets focus on the month of April and worry about September. Ken is already panicking about September!

First off, will McGowan even last that long lol? I'm tempering my expectations with Morrow and McGowan. You for sure will see Stroman up at some point in May/June and Sanchez possibly in August.

Also, Chavez likely doesn't pitch this season out of the rotation if not for injuries to Parker and Griffin this spring.

He was never successful as a starter in the Majors, so what makes you think he'd all of a sudden have success pitching with Toronto as a starter? I've always liked him as a reliever, though giving him a rotation spot would have been absurd. Members on here would have even bashed AA more. I don't see him sustaining this success over a full season.

I see Chavez burning out at some point - there is no way he can sustain this type of success. I expect a Chad Gaudin 2007 type season from him when all is said and done if he spends the entire season in the rotation.