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Yeah agree. I don't think its worth finishing in 8th place and getting knocked out in the first round. Or even worse, finish 9th or 10th and not even sniff the playoffs. Definitely need to trade FVV and Trent. Would definitely be open to trading Siakam for a haul like Utah did with Mitchell and Gobert.
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I guess it's all about TV contracts and money. Even though Boston sucks, those games against the Yankees generate a lot of TV revenue. I agree, would rather watch the Braves vs. Mets or Dodges vs. Padres instead of Red Sox/Yankees or Cardinals/Cubs.
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Dunning probably isn't even in the rotation if everyone is healthy at the end of ST. Out of their home grown arms, at least he has some potential to be decent.
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Yeah Odorizzi IMO is more of a No. 5 right now. Still a decent arm for innings and depth. Dunning could be considered a No. 4 in the rotation. He's still young with some upside so I'll give it to him. So they probably have four or five No. 3-4 starters in their rotation. Any injuries though especially to deGrom or Heaney or another arm over a long period will definitely hurt.
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Also depends on who the Jays face more outside of the division. If its the Royals, Tigers, or A's fantastic! If it's better teams like the Astros, Mariners or Guardians...
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A lot of their top players have regressed this season, especially Fred VanVleet only shooting 38.2 FG% and who has been injured on and off. Barnes hasn't taken that next step yet and struggling in his sophomore season. Trent has been meh. Also, this team hasn't been fully healthy it seems. I think VanVleet or Trent get moved at some point if the team doesn't get out of this rut.
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I wouldn't mind him either but he'll likely cost Kluber money and is he much of an upgrade or does he just push Kikuchi/White back a spot? He has to be guaranteed to put together a 2.4 WAR season again for him to be an upgrade. Any regression likely doesn't make him any better than Mitch White or Kikuchi. Plus Jays likely would have to drop or trade someone from the roster. Maybe the Jays could sign an arm like Pineda, Lindblom etc. to a MiLB deal before ST starts and let them fight for the No. 5 spot in ST or keep them for depth in Buffalo. The more I think about it, Danny Duffy makes the perfect sense. Likely gets a deal around $4-5 million with incentives. He can be useful out of the bullpen as an extra lefty or long man if he isn't in the rotation and you can always stretch him out as a starter if the situation during the season arises.
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Thanks for the list!
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Yeah Olson's isn't looking that hot. Lets see if Acuna can return to his MVP caliber form. Riley should be alright but not completely sold on him. I love Strider but arms are so fragile. Overall though he did the right thing and locked up the Braves core pieces for the long term at very reasonable team friendly contracts.
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Heaney, Eovaldi, Gray, Perez. Odorizzi meh. Dunning has some upside and could be included.
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Matt Moore still available as a FA.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
jaysblue replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Pearson becomes the Jays weapon in the bullpen! Next Phil Hughes! -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
jaysblue replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Ryu will throw a perfect game inebriated in September like David Wells did. -
Yeah agreed. If both Seager and Semien return to their old form, along with some of their young bats continuing to take a step forward. Still their success will ride on deGrom and their other starters. They have some nice rotation depth, though durability and health are a concern especially with deGrom and Heaney.
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Someone will definitely roll the dice on him.
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Yeah worst case Duffy can act as a bulk inning reliever at the beginning of the season and you would be able to stretch him out as a starter if someone goes down or if Kikuchi sucks. Kind of like how the Jays used Carlos Villanueva in 2011/2012 and Marco Estrada in 2015. I don't see him getting more than $5 million guaranteed. Depends really on his preferences if he wants to sign somewhere as a guaranteed SP. At least with Duffy, he can provide value out of the pen but I'm sure he'll get 10-15 starts over a full season. I don't think many of the No. 5 starters left are worth bringing in at around $10 million when they aren't really upgrades over who the Jays already have. As ST approaches, would look more at some MiLB possibilities. Forgot about Pineda, though he's a great example.
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Rangers success in 2023 will heavily rely on deGrom making 30 starts. If he doesn't, it's likely another lost season.
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Some starting pitchers who I think could be had on a MiLB deal or a very cheap incentive laden contract before ST: - Joe Ross (won't be available till second half of 2023) - Chris Archer (he's not really an upgrade over Kikuchi or White but at least provides some depth) - Danny Duffy (would be a really nice fit IMO. Likely will get guaranteed money though probably nothing more than $5 million. Either can use him as a No. 5 or in the pen). - Daniel Mengden (on a MiLB deal, would be nice for some depth in AAA) - Josh Lindblom (probably can give him a ST invite but would have to have an opt out if he doesn't make the active roster after ST). - Mark Appel (interesting former top prospect. If he signed a MiLB contract, would be nice to have him as insurance in Buffalo). Otherwise, not many guys on this list who I think are upgrades over what the Jays already have in Kikuchi and White. Pretty much just for depth purposes. Maybe Danny Duffy if he's healthy could be a nice fit since you could have him compete for the No. 5 spot or have him as a swing man/extra lefty in the pen to start the season.
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Kikuchi making $10 million in 2023 and 2024 plays a big role. If he was only making $3-4M I'm sure they would look at bringing in another arm.
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In a perfect world, another starter would be nice though not sure they want to spend $10-12 million and go over the luxury tax.
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Blue Jays acquire Daulton Varsho for Moreno and Gurriel
jaysblue replied to Laika's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I think Biggio/Merrifield and Espinal will get a lot of ABs during the course of the season because of their positional flexibility. Definitely will be nice to move them all around the lineup and in the field. Gives Schneider more options. Would be nice to see Biggio turn into a Ben Zobrist type player. -
Blue Jays acquire Daulton Varsho for Moreno and Gurriel
jaysblue replied to Laika's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
If he accepts his role as a bench/platoon bat, definitely would welcome him here. -
On paper, you can probably say the Jays are the second or third best team in the AL. Houston is still No. 1 obviously. Second is between the Yankees and Blue Jays on paper IMO. Though anything can happen once games are played and you can't count out teams like the Mariners, Guardians, Rays, and maybe the Orioles. Could always add a surprise team in there, maybe the Rangers if deGrom makes 30 starts. I think the Jays improved on their 2022 roster. Better defensive team overall which will definitely have a greater impact over 162 games and in the Postseason. They have a deep bullpen, but still would like to see one more elite high K arm who can act as a bridge to Romano. As for their rotation, if everyone is healthy, they will be fine. But one or two injuries to a significant arm could hurt them. Otherwise, on paper this is a top 2 or 3 team in the AL.
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Yeah agreed for durability purposes especially. He would have been a nice No. 5 here in Toronto, though it's not the end of the world. Still some solid arms available and as we get closer to ST, maybe prices on those arms start to go down if they remain unsigned.
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I guess he's a trade deadline candidate if he pitches well in the first half. A move back to the NL should help and he can be dominant when healthy, though his best days are behind him now. Don't think we see the Rich Hill when he was with the Dodgers. He did post a 3.92 FIP and 1.8 WAR last season so meh he wasn't that bad.
