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  1. Matz is a no brainer also. It’s win win for the Jays. 18.4 million for 1 year of Matz would be a fine consolation prize if nobody wants him for a multi year deal that lands a pick. No such thing as a bad 1 year deal.
  2. I love the idea also, I just think that the Rockies would be wanting more than Kirk + Pearson. I doubt he's even on the market TBH
  3. I dunno, would make no sense to provide housing for some players but not all. Like, what really would be the difference in a player's minor league contract status? All of them are under contract to the minor league team they play for, and by extension the Jays. Maybe it's the type of contracts they are signed to that matter. Like, in the upper minors there's gonna be a lot of guys that are on the 40 man roster that are just in AAA or AA, so maybe their housing situation would be different than those that are strictly on minor league deals.
  4. Try weed. A good indica strain will shut those voices off real good. Sativa on the other hand and you're probably going to jail.
  5. My favorite part of this story about minor league housing is the following: "In mid-September, owners from the league's 30 teams agreed unanimously to a plan that would provide housing for certain minor league players, the league said in a statement. Whether they will offer stipends that fully cover housing or provide the lodging itself has yet to be decided, sources said. Certain players? Not all?
  6. That's what I thought when I read it. Would be pretty easy to call a swing or not then, virtually everything would be called no swing if it ever needed to be appealed. Poorly written attempt at a rule there.
  7. How dare you besmirch Buck Martinez' contributions to the Jays catching position. At least he Hall of Fame hair.
  8. Martin was actually a better catcher than Molina. His defense was just as good, offense was better. He just didn't play as long. Both have 55 WAR, Martin did it in 13 seasons, Molina is on his 19th. It's weird how Martin gets nowhere near the respect that Molina does when he's clearly the better of the two catchers.
  9. So who hits the Grand Slam for Boston this inning?
  10. Overrated in that he's a defensive wizard whos offense gets overrated, whereas Jeter was great offensively, and his defense gets overrated.
  11. Seems like hitting a grand slam every inning is a good way to win ball games. What do you guys think?
  12. Yeah his velo was fine in the first inning, but 2nd inning was noticably down. 90-91 vs 94-95.
  13. Yeah, like I said, I hate their fans so much it bleeds over into hating the franchise, but I've got no issues with the players for the most part. I think Molina is on the same level as Derek Jeter in the "overrated" department, but those 3 years in his late 20s were pretty cool.
  14. I also really hate that I love the Rays and how they turn piles of s*** into gold every f***ing year.
  15. Luis Garcia imploding before our very eyes. He's got nothing today.
  16. The Cardinals would be up high on that list also because of their obnoxious fans and the whole "true Cardinal" ********.
  17. This is getting out of hand early. Garcia can't hit the strike zone unless it's right in the grand slam happy place.
  18. It's hard to imagine Marquez is even on the market. And if he was - i doubt the return would look like Grichuk, Kirk and Pearson. It's probably not a massive underpay but they'd be looking for guys with more certainty IMO. Grichuk is a certainty, but not in a good way. Kirk would be very intriguing, but Pearson is the furthest thing from a certainty there is.
  19. yeah okay. That's where my tier 2 list falls, so we're on the same page then.
  20. Well, ... yeah, good pitcher, good contract but premium starting pitcher? What's your definition of premium? I'd have him in a list of Tier 2 guys, but not what I consider premium.
  21. Poorly worded on my part with regards to Matz vs Marquez. Their talent levels are much closer than you make it seem, but their current values are drastically different due to age, contracts statuses etc. And yeah, usually it is an either/or scenario when talking trades like that for the Jays, unless they've recently decided to break through the payroll luxury tax. There's never been any trades like the one being proposed, along with a large splash FA signing that follows that puts them at or above the luxury tax in recent memory. The biggest FA signings in the last 5 years and Ryu and Springer, but there was no trades that preceded them bringing in legit talents like a Marquez. The trade with Oakland for Donaldson is probably the best recent example of that type of trade in the 2014 offseason, but there were 0 free agent signings of anyone noteworthy after the trade in that offseason. Even the following offseason the only notable signing was JA Happ.
  22. I fully know Marquez's value. The point I'm making still stands. Is it better to trade for him specifically which costs assets + cash, or sign someone like him for cash only which would cost more in actual dollars but allow the team to retain the assets whose production/value would also need to be considered. So, based on your mention of Stroman... would you rather just sign Stroman for cash, or trade the assets + pay cash for Marquez?
  23. I know, I'm just making conversation. Sometimes I find people throwing out trade scenarios without really thinking through what they are proposing. And the comparison of Matz and Marquez wasn't so much about career WAR by X age, just that their current #'s, from a FIP, k rate, walk rate etc... are about identical. Matz age 27 season was virtually identical to Marquez age 26 season this year. In any case, it's clear you've done your homework. Original point of mine was...Marquez would earn 11m in 2022, 15M in 2023 and 16M in 2024 (or 2.4m buyout). So ... there's really 3 scenarios the Jays would be mulling over. Trading assets for 2 years of Marquez plus the buyout totaling 28.4m Trading assets for 3 years of Marquez totaling 42 million Signing someone relatively similar to Marquez via free agency for whatever that might cost, which is probably more in dollars, but retaining the 3 assets.
  24. German Marqez is a right handed Steven Matz, just a few years younger. Would you give up those players for Matz if he was 3 years younger? Or would you just try to find a similar pitcher via free agency and just pay money and keep your assets?
  25. Yeah in 2019: "Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. In making his ruling, the base umpire should determine whether the batter’s wrists “rolled over” during an attempt to strike at the ball and, if not, call the pitch a ball. Should the base umpire call the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail. Appeals on a half swing must be made before the next pitch, or any play or attempted play." I have no idea how that testing turned out though
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