John_Havok

Pity votes are the same as participation medals. The fact they got their names on the ballot is recognition enough.

Pettitte is in the same classification as Buerhle for me. Workhorses that never sucked, and the only thing they truly did exceptionally was never really get blown out. Solid pitchers that all rotations need, but they aren’t the ace. Aces make the hall. Not hall worthy imo. Brown was better than both of them by far.

Whomever voted for Dickey, Arroyo, Street, Napoli and Lackey should have their voting priviledges revoked immediately. They're obviously f***ing morons.

Naw, those 20 kilos of cocaine was for personal use.

Yeah Jamie is basically a matter of when, not if. - lymphocytic leukemia has no cure, just management Buck, they didnt really publicly release specifics, just said it was neck and head cancer.

And anyone wondering who gave up #21 for Mr Clemens? This guy

Yup. Need wins, saves, and big K numbers. innings matter also but obviously treated different for starters vs relievers.

Every pitcher that isnt starting is a failed starter, that hasn't really changed much. Their usage sure has

Not just the first to wear it, he was the guy who came up with the idea to take the goalie mask and adjust/change it as needed to suit the MLB.

He could go to the Jays list of injury busts. While not looking like a star player or anything, he could have settled in as maybe average. He did put up .3 fWAR in his very limited sample of 140 PA before his brain got scrambled. During the 2017 World Baseball Classic, Pompey suffered a concussion as he slid into second base during a play and was subsequently placed on the 60-day disabled list by the Blue Jays. He did not make an appearance with Toronto during the 2017 season. On May 4, 2018, Pompey returned to the majors for the first time since 2016 in a game against the Tampa Bay Rays. On May 12, he was optioned down to the Triple-A Buffalo Bisons. In a May 29, 2018 game for Buffalo, Pompey suffered a partial tear of the ulnar collateral ligament in his left thumb, sustaining the injury sliding headfirst into third base. He did not appear in the majors again that year as he continued to rehab in the minor leagues. Before a March 21, 2019 spring training game, Pompey was pulled from the lineup after he hit his head on some bats at the top of his locker before the game. Pompey was diagnosed with a concussion and was placed on the injured list. On April 2, Pompey was transferred to the 60-day injured list. On July 23, 2019, Pompey was designated for assignment.He spent the remainder of the 2019 season in the minors and on November 4, 2019, Pompey elected free agency

That’s right, Joey Bats first wore #23

He could be. Probably room to argue either way.

#19 is even better when you recall who wore it from 1993-1995.

Just off the top of my head #19 might be on the short list

#24 for the Jays really is a wasteland of nobodies, with the exception of Rickey Henderson in 1993, Shannon Stewart and Ricky Romero. Who could forget household names like Chuck Hartenstein, Willie Aikens, Glenallen Hill, Jim Acker, Greg Cadaret, Turner Ward, Dave Righetti, Bobby Kielty, Sean Douglass, Mariano Duncan, Paul Spoljaric and Nate Pearson?

Good god that's short in RCF and LCF

Muncy hasnt even been a primary 3B, except for last season, Turner is on the way down... though he has been a very good 3b in the past. I could see an argument for Yandy above Chapman if you look at Offense over defense, and CHappy is just flat out better than DJ...so yeah... Chappy should be a solid #7 on that list.

That's the thing though, its not these 3 catches that made him a great CF, it was the 3 and 4 star plays that he made look routine and barely above routine that made him a great CF.

Pretty bad middle ground. That's pretty much pure free agent extension to a guy with 2 arb years left. A middle ground would be maybe 10/250+ with an opt out after 4 or 5 years or something like that.

Well if Kiemaier, Romano and Kiermaier said it, it must be true.

Cleveland was plus on every side of the ball though. Minne still sucks at D, baserunning, offsense....basically everything that isn't pitching now. Looks liek Minnesota is really trying to go on pitching alone with no clear top guy and a bunch of 2's and 3's. It could work for the reg season to a point but i see a lot of 1 run games in their future.

Looking at their top prospects that are close, they have another slap hitting SS/3b and an OF in Wallner who's ceiling is compared to Joey Gallo, who the Twins also picked up via FA and hope he can somehow no longer suck.