John_Havok

No, I'm saying its delusional to think hes going to sign for well below his market value. He also catches balls hit at him; and both of those skills he does better than nearly every other 3B in the league. Hitting isn't the only skill in baseball that's worthy of being paid for. Also, please get back on your meds. Those are important for your ongoing recovery

You're delusional of you think Chappy is signing anywhere for 10 million.

So does the current free agent system. It's just a fact of life and reality. Without a hard salary cap virtually everything favours the rich teams in the long run.

An international draft doesn't solve anything to so with free agents from Japan or Korea who come over in their mid to late 20's. The only thing it COULD do is get those players over here when they are 18, but then MLB would have to have agreements with both the KBO and Japan's pro baseball that players from their home countries would have to exclude themselves from their home countries drafts. I tremendously doubt that kind of an agreement will happen anytime soon. There's too much money at stake in Japan. Side note, if one takes the Ohtani deal and converts it to Japanese currency, it's worth 100 billion yen.

I edited a my thoughts a few times, check it again and see if it makes sense to ya. I honestly think if they strike out on Bellinger, they might just grab Taylor and sit on their hands.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the theory they need to bring in a full platoon for LF. Biggio can already play out there if needed, as can Schneider (kinda), Otto Lopez, and apparently both Barger and Orelvis are being tagged as 2b/OF guys rather than 3b according to Sorrow, the poster who's friend gives him all kinds of seemingly credible inside info. Getting both sides of a platoon for LF seems unnecessary to me. First step, get Michael A Taylor as your 4th OF, then sign the best starting LF you can, regardless of handedness. I think it's Bellinger, and I will likely hate the dollars and years, but he doesn't need a platoon partner, and if a tough lefty comes in and you don't want both Belli and Varsho in the lineup, Taylor goes in for Varsho instead and Bellinger stays in LF. A guy like Taylor fits so perfectly as the 4th OF on the roster it's almost a crime he hasn't been signed yet. The myriad of IF/OF options that exist on the Jays bench really dont make signing a full platoon for LF necessary at all. As for 3b... f***ed if I know. If it's not Chappy at the same kind of too many years and too many dollars deal like Bellinger will get, what else is there? As a last resort maybe you throw Lopez, Orelvis, Leo Jimenez, Clement, Schneider, Biggio and Barger at 3B all ST long until you figure out which guy(s) can hold it down well enough with some kind of rotation. Hell maybe they rotate all of them through 2B, 3B and LF until they find a rental trade, just to keep costs down so they can go after Soto or Bregman in the next FA period, just like the Dodgers did last offseason.

It's a unique offseason with Ohtani and Yamamoto slowing everything up at the top end of the market. The teams making all the moves right now are pretty much dumpster diving and trying to grab guys they can trade at the deadline.

I agree Belli would be the ideal fit, but his contract demands are pretty steep for a guy with enough caution tape on his profile that it looks like a crime scene. I can buy the defense and the baserunning as being above average, I’m not sure I’m sold on the bat being exactly what it was last season or better. Maybe he’s found a system that works for him where he’s able to put far more balls on play at lower EVs but still let loose on the cookies he gets. He’s definitely a risky signing but it could pay off pretty well also

Yeah, looking at most fans comments online you'd think Gurriel Jr re-signing in Arizona was worse than the Jays missing out on Ohtani.

Why do I get the feeling that a "walk in Gaia with the balancing pup" is a euphemism for an acid trip

well you havent came up with an remotely plausible one, they're pretty easy to dismiss.

Analysis of stats been around for 80 years, it's just advanced exponentially in the past 20-30 thanks in large part to advances in technology and expanding how people look at the game, especially using economic strategies like the Moneyball line about front offices should be looking to buy runs, not players, and realizing where those runs actually came from. A relatively simple shift in that school of thought changed MLB drastically.

Naw just simply looking at the peripherals, and noticing the same flaws in both guys from a hitting standpoint. Both whiff alot, both make loud contact when they connect. Teo probably still has a higher upside bat only, but Chappy has a higher floor with the bat and a clear edge everywhere else. Their careers are kind of mirror images of each other's with the bat. Chappy was far better in his first few seasons and dropped off the most recent 3 (clearly injury related), Teo is the opposite but relatively injury free. Both have nearly identical career WRC+

I think a good comparable of Teo, when you’re looking at risk profile is Chapman. High whiffs, high K, big power and loud contact when he does connect. Thing is, Chapman walks at double the rate,still runs the bases well and is a major plus on D. Teo is average D at best, (likely below average) and still bad baserunner. He’s a passable option if every other well of options runs dry but he wouldn’t be a priority get for me. I don’t even know if I’d want to give him Gurriel Jr money tbh. May end up having to, but I think a 1 year pillow deal might be the better option, with a club option or something.

It’s probably some nuance that’s missing from the explanation, you know how people listen to one thing but interpret it slightly different. To me it sounds like Whit was going to the plate with a 2 strike approach, whereas the Jays preached waiting until 2 strikes for that approach. That doesn’t seem overly egregious, but if that’s the mindset Whit has and it has been working (I didn’t look up any stats yet to see what his numbers actually are with RISP or “clutch” situations) then it would be foolish to mess with the mindset of its working. However, if it clearly wasn’t working, the coach needs to be able to show the numbers, “I see what you mean Whit but, look at these numbers, that approach hasn’t actually been working for you overall, so if you try it this way, we think you’ll be more successful” I’m not really a fan of a one-size-fits-all approach to hitting. There are general truths of course, but I certainly wouldn’t coach Espinal and Vlad Jr to try and do the same thing. same with Bichette, he’s just too different from everyone else in what works for him.

Being from Newfoundland is not a disability!

I guess it depends how much you believe in his career season being repeated a few more times. I'm not a believer personally, as I think his bat will be okay but his D will likely regress and baserunning will continue to be bad. He going into his age 30 season, but realistically he'll be 30 and a half before the season even starts. If that contact is what a 1.5 WAR projection is worth, I wish them luck. To me it seems like a playoff run overpay

We’re the Dodgers also suffering from desperation?

This board is part of his ongoing therapy regimen. Go easy on him.

Trade bait for the deadline, just like Will Smith and Stratton

Flaherty signing for 14 million to Detroit makes all the sense in the world for him, there’s no reason for the Jays to take that risk for Flaherty to be a #5. Manoah can be just as s***** for league minimum, or a shitload better with even a 50% return to previous form

Now I’ve seen everything, Tampa giving cash to the Dodgers in a trade. Friedman is a bigger GM ninja than AA.

I’d totally wear that jacket and shorts…it’s the shoes that really f*** up that look.

I think you missed the hint of sarcasm there

Teo also had the worst rates of all the bad hitters peripherals of his career last year. And for a guy with bad D and bad baserunning, it’s enough to create a lot of pause before signing him