Smokey

Because the plan, as he painted it himself, was to load up with as many young arms and raw talent as possible and when the time is right, put those assets to good use and compete. By declaring that "we're not ready yet" in the past, he ducked a lot of the pressures that come with the job and now that it's time to deliver, he's showing to be a complete flop. I don't even know why I have to explain this... we've just wrapped up the second year of a three year imaginary window to compete and after years of patiently waiting for him to implement his plan, he's still showing no sense of urgency and still wasting roster stops on minor league scrubs. The FO of those franchises are head and shoulders above the incompetent retards that run this team and their track record proves that. I obviously didn't think much of them before and still don't think much of them now. However, unlike the Jays, they've been able to take advantage of a weak division and they've done so by combining their good fortunes with some decent FA signings and trades. But I still don't consider them a championship caliber team and fail to see what point you're getting at. As I've mentioned before, I'm not here to defend the ownership... But as a corporation whose main goal is to make a profit and satisfy the stakeholders, they're essentially doing what is expected of them. I might not like it as a fan, but it comes with the territory and you have to somewhat expect it. AA's job on the other hand, was to take his sweet ass time and finally put a competitive product together when the time was right and he was given the opportunity to do just that. But instead, he decided to hand out starting jobs to guys like JPA and Goins and put the team behind the eight ball before the season even got underway. Yes, ultimately AA is hired by Rogers, but the fact that he's had a major role in this f***-up shouldn't be ignored or dismissed. I originally stated that it's foolish to ignore AA's mistakes just because his trades were supposedly well liked (as Ken suggested) and you responded by saying that because they're not firing him, "it points to bigger issues than the GM" which is pretty irrelevant to the point i was making. Now you're pointing out the ownership's inability to hire someone more competent. Even if that was the case, so what? Are we not allowed to criticize the GM because the ownership is perceived to be incapable of rectifying the problem??

The fact that they weren't "trying" to contend in 2010-2012 makes the failures of the last couple years even greater. Besides, 2 failed seasons doesn't qualify as "another" failed season to you? If AA doesn't get canned this offseason, then yes I think that would say a lot about the ownership. But it still doesn't dismiss the glaring issue with AA's inability to assemble a complete roster.

Everyone but the fat man, apparently.

Here we go again... Another failed season by the fat man and the next round of delusional excuses and justifications by an old man who'd rather hold on to his false beliefs to the dying breath. I know it's hard to believe, but after 5 long years, AA still hasn't been able to assemble a complete roster and has completely neglected the importance of depth or even defense at such key position as the catcher. You can ignore that and keep whining and moaning about the ownership all you like but you're only fooling yourself.

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Wow, so much stupidity all in one thread... Hide your kids folks, the Sasquatch has been unleashed!

You mean to tell me that relying on "internal options" and hoping for victories to be the biggest addition in 2014 wasn't a good idea??? No f***ing way!

But who'd be dumb enough to bet on the 2014 Jays and have to wait 6 long months to possibly squeak out a win? Besides, you don't need the plus since 80 wins would get the job done, Dick.

Instead of getting mad and shamelessly praying for a meaningless 81 win season, you should just admit defeat and bow down to a legend!

I can't believe people have the audacity to suggest such thing... Of course not! Poor guy... 2010 $62,734,000 85-77 2011 $64,567,800 81-81 2012 $82,352,700 73-89 2013 $124,517,800 74-88 2014 $136,466,200 64-62 I thought this board was started for rational baseball discussion? Not f***ing retards.

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You're right, we should all embrace mediocrity just like your bitch ass does.

No, but if I wrote s*** like "I'm still all over AA's cock!" in the offseason, I definitely would be.

You are definitely something quite special!!! http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0dtiqrIk41qi65voo1_500.gif

I know. You're not nearly smart enough to be a successful troll. I was just pointing out the irony in your baseless accusation, and frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised that the point went over your head.

I asked for evidence and this is what you came up with?? Well then let me show you how you can prove a poster is a troll with multiple accounts... http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/9-Gameday-threads?highlight=high85+caper Why are you quoted as "high85" in this thread??? Must be a joke right?? lol

Listen, I know you're a nice guy and I really don't want to be an ass to you but sometimes to make it really hard not to. Do you actually think 3 less wins for a team that plays a 162 games is that much of a variation to call someone out based on it?

If you have a single shred evidence behind this accusation, I would love to see it. Also, you might want to give this posting thing a break cause this tough guy act really isn't meant for a testosterone deficient beta like yourself.

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LMFAO You're such a retard!!!

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I really don't see what you're trying to accomplish by coming here and sounding like a hateful retard after every game.

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I believe that's based on minimum 60 PA... Reduce the requirement to 50 PA and sitting at the very bottom is our very own starting 2B Ryan f***ing Goins with a .363 OPS.

Spoken like a true beta!