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True. So save ~ 3 million.
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But then again, the ~3 million saved from Lind would just be added to Estrada's salary. Jaso and Estrada for Lind and Nolin + (?) essentially?
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Saves ~3 million for as far as I can tell similar production against LHP. Problem is he too requires a RH bat to platoon with @ DH. Edit: A Jaso/Mayberry platoon might work nicely.
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Not a very good framer, concussion issues. Defense>bat as a back up C. I like him as a left handed OBP option against righties. Career 127 wRC+ vs RHP with a .368 OBP. Slides in nicely between Jose and Edwin.
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Tough to use your backup C as the primary DH unless you're willing to hit the pitcher in the event of an injury. Possible DH/1B role though I think, hopefully make an upgrade on Thole as the backup.
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You can't just take every player's fault, then find a similar comp and project them to have the same success. Maddux, Johnson, whoever else Nobody here is denying the upside Sanchez has. It's just the odds of him reaching it are much, much slimmer than others (see walk rate, ability to throw strikes, short stride length leading to future injuries). Prospects can be looked at as currency. Right now, Mr. Sanchez's value is probably pretty high.
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Bob McCown: There may be no limit to payroll
L54 replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I agree selling high is important (ala Sanchez). There are so many variables to take into account over the past two years it's almost impossible to say what would've happened. Now if you were referencing trading TDA and Syndergaard for Latos, then I would agree. -
Bob McCown: There may be no limit to payroll
L54 replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Do you think they make the Jays a real contender, though? Keep in mind Martin probably isn't pursued if TDA is behind the dish. -
Can't say I've once stated "trade Sanchez for Bruce". What I did elude to was that I feel Sanchez is more valuable as a trade asset than in the rotation or pen, long term.
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To me, I don't see him being successful as a major league starter if he can't address the walks. The big league sample was encouraging, but not enough for me to believe it has been fixed. That's why his value may have reached its pinnacle. Success in the majors (in a SSS). If he comes out next year and blows up, either in the pen on the rotation, we're looking at another Drabek situation.
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5 walks per nine is pretty bad
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Cueto won't come cheap and is a FA.
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Bob McCown: There may be no limit to payroll
L54 replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I have to disagree. I don't think Yunel (if he's still even under contract), Syndergaard, TDA, Marisnick, Alvarez and whoever else make us a real contender this year. -
This Cinderella dream of a Stroman, Hoffmann, Norris, Sanchez, Hutch rotation come 2017 needs to be put to rest, IMO. Prospects bust. All the time. What AA needs to do is identify which ones he thinks will bust, and trade them at peak value. Exhibit 1: Aaron Sanchez
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I think this board has to temper expectations on prospects. I'm just being real here. Sanchez has been shaky as a starter his entire professional career. Walk rate worrisome. Ya he fit into the back end of a Jays bullpen that wasn't going to the playoffs. I'm not saying trading him for Bruce is the right call (haven't really thought much about it, tbh). But in reality, Sanchez probably ends up as a good back end of the bullpen when his career is said and done. His value, to the Toronto Blue Jays is probably highest in a trade that nets a long term asset, or a glaring need.
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The more I think about it, the more valuable Sanchez probably is to this team in a trade, as opposed to shaky starter/8th inning guy.
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The most simplistic way to explain this would be through WAR I believe. Depending on who you ask, Martin alone is a 5-7 win upgrade on Navarro. Without doing any research, I'd expect that his upgrade alone covers the loss of any of the players you mentioned. The pitchers on the staff should* benefit from Martin behind the plate, to what degree I'm not qualified to answer. In short, if AA can make a couple more savvy additions (Aoki, Saunders, Headley, whoever) and he will have not only replaced the production from those players, but made the major league team better on paper.
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I agree with you completely, Twisted. Just no way he wants to come back.
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Good point. Beuhrle is as good as gone after this season. As much as we want to see Stroman and Hutch turn into reliable 180+ inning guys, the reality is we just don't know that for sure. Dickey's durability just might be needed in this rotation a year from now, too.
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Why would you hashtag on a message board? Anyway, I got the rise out of that sick, twisted mind I was looking for. G'day, mate.
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I guess if you can prove it with matching IP addresses I'd be able to see your point of view. On the old board, I was falsely accused as "zee" for a while haha (by fatcow of all people, I think he was 7?), all because I had a nickname that was similar that I used as my username. I agree, that sometimes we see "new" users slip up and give away that they're someone we know, but until they do, I think giving them the benefit of the doubt is only fair.
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For clarification, I'm not saying you're driving them away. Yes, I agree the biggest problem is the lack of diversity in opinions. But if people chase away new members, there isn't much hope that someone will come along with a different point of view to counter with. What I'm saying is, posters accusing people of being dogg, zee or any other of the whacked persona's we've seen on these boards will make them feel uncomfotable, especially because they don't know who these people (?) are, or who they're being compared to.
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Sorry Moogs, didn't waste my time as a child watching Ninja Turtles. When you're as successful as I am, there is no time to waste, even during childhood.
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LOL at acting like you meant you wouldn't be posting in just that particular thread anymore.
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About a year has passed since this thread was made, and I think it needs a bump. I post a little, but read almost every post on this site. Lately, I'm seeing more and more posters accuse new posters of being "dogg" "zee" "CHP" or whoever they think of, instead of actually taking the time to explain to them why their ideas are farfetched (and lots of the times they are). If people want this board to grow, putting down new posters isn't going to help. Unless everyone is content with the merry go round that each thread becomes (I'm looking at you, Moogy), we need to encourage new posters to post, instead of tearing them down instantly when they do decide to post. I love this board, and I want to continue to see it grow. With the signing of Martin, new members were bound to find their way here. If there are more moves, there will more likely be an even greater influx of posters. Let's welcome them, instead of degrade them.
