On the Jays' part it was probably just tire kicking. They f***ed up the Chris Archer trade so bad, worth seeing if you could steal them of Austin Meadows again.
Reynolds was over 3 WAR in 2019, projects to be above average, and is their best projected position player.
I don't see much opportunity to pay a fair rate for him in that context. They can certainly have Robertson + Fisher or Teoscar + an actual prospect but I would not deal Kirk or Manoah.
Kirk is untouchable. I wouldn't trade him for Mike Trout.
You tried but it still doesn't make sense. Martin's basis for making #2 slot value demands largely evaporated when he slid to the 5th pick.
To say that Toronto dicked Martin around by not giving into his demands is just some stubborn dumb f*** s***. Grow up metafour!!!!
Your point about Martin made no sense - that was all I was saying.
For all we know the Orioles or Marlins were prepared to give Torkelson $8M+ if Detroit let him slide.
I generally agree though that Detroit does not have an impressive front office so it is possible that they just got out-negotiated by a superstar agent.
Toronto picked Martin 5th and paid him the 2nd highest bonus in the draft, $800k over slot. Toronto dicked around Nick Frasso a bit to appease Martin. Your above bolded paragraph is just confused and does not make a clear point.
People do this s*** all the time, in every context, thanks to social media. "Braves fans" is a huge group of different people. I wonder how hard it would be to find actual, specific, Braves fans who loved Donaldson's attitude but hate Puig's.
It was basically slot value. I don't think you can call that caving. Detroit probably decided it wasn't worth jerking their preferred player around for a few hundred thousand dollars in order to maybe sign someone slightly better later on.
Everything I've read says Wall is not great anywhere. Just s***** instincts. It wouldn't be surprising if someone like Espinal is actually a better CF than him.
The main problem I see with Randal Grichuk is that he is a boring ass 29 year old man who should not be tweeting at all. That's it. Just log off, man. Don't tweet "guy SMH 100 bro" at your peers. It's cringetopia.