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Silvergun: "... as an aspiring Darrell, I...." Aspiring Darrell, eh?

Jaysblue [arguing that someone's team is a playoff team]: "His pitching isn't that bad - Moore, Hellickson, Beckett, Pineda, Turner, Masterson, Volgelsong etc." Oh, how'd that work out?

Dinger again: "Hahaha cool. Having said that, Fernandez will probably blow his arm out, Syndergaard and Bradley will probably bust altogether, Myers will probably be a .230 hitter and Lindor will probably be a glove-only guy." Nostra-f***ing-damus here....

Dr_Dinger: "It's not a double benefit, it's Sophie's Choice." omfg. swoon.

Yeah, he's basically Delmon Young three or four years from now, IMO.

When we made the league, were Silvergun, TCA, and realmin some of the last people that got spots? Someone remind me.

How many players do you guys use when making z scores on projections?

What's not to love about a low K guy in Colorado? This is an fWAR league, isn't it?

I'd probably take Miller over Shoemaker, but definitely not the others. Well, I guess Griffin in Oakland is pretty close.

This is the big leagues of fantasy baseball so if you make a bad trade, people are allowed to roast you for it.... but, we need to cut the disagreements off more quickly in the future. There is nothing productive about fostering animosity within our league ranks like this. You guys have been going shot for shot for a couple of days now. Would be nice for something to just be the bigger man and not reply anymore. Not that I really care.

Gibbers'

Pretty sure I'd take Hunter Harvey (who, + other pieces, didn't even get me into the discussion) over every piece that Gibby got here.

Next person who even vaguely references the DDL loses a draft pick.

After you responded directly to me? Yes.

Did you really think I would read that?

Hi, M's fan here. What would you guys think of Chris Taylor + Michael Saunders + Erasmo Ramirez + James Jones + Brad Miller for Bautista and Lind? Be nice.

You almost have to make a concerted effort to f*** it up. It will be interesting to see how the Blue Jays try to ruin 2015. Do they go the "make absolutely no improvements or investments" route, like they did with success in 2014? Or, do they go down the "track team / my priorities are so out of whack it's hilarious" road that helped them get such a nice, high draft pick after 2013?

I hope you're not implying that you would keep Bobby f***ing Parnell over Liriano

Call me a stupid homer, but I actually kind of like the roster mix Toronto will have going into 2015. Yes, there are some bad contracts and the payroll constraints will probably prevent any real improvements. But, there is a mix of bankable veterans and exciting, high upside youngsters that I don't really ever remember seeing from a Blue Jays team. They have a lineup anchored by two top ten hitters in baseball (2015 Steamer wOBA) and the 3rd best SS in the game according to Steamer, and it's a lineup that incorporates a pair of high end young players that could explode in any given season (Lawrie and Pompey). The rotation is carried by a pair of veteran arms that seem like virtual locks for 200 IP and league average production, and those two are followed (or in the case of Stroman, lead) by four young arms with a crazy amount of talent. That's a lot of players that almost any team in baseball would want, and aside from them, there are solid contributors in the fold like Navarro, Lind, Cecil, Loup, Happ... and a few not terrible bench pieces. It will be a marvel of terrible roster construction if Anthopoulos and friends can manage to miss the playoffs for a third straight year with a core that promising.

This must be one of the biggest sabermetric faux-pas out there. You realize this doesn't make him a better (or any more valuable) hitter, right?

Criticisms are fair, but it's hard to hate too much on his young core. SS/2B - Profar SS/2B - Baez 3B - Machado CF - Marte OF - Soler OF - Myers OF - Arcia Josh Harrison is ok

To be fair, his defence goes a long way so he's a useful 4th OF, meaning there's probably some team out there that would trade a decent cheap RP for him.

It's hilarious that some Blue Jays fans still live in a world where Gose has decent trade value.

Why would Seattle do that? They already have enough surplus outfielders that can't hit enough to start or start in a corner.

If the Blue Jays could somehow get a Saunders+Miller/Taylor/Ackley package, that would be huge. Offseason offensive shopping list essentially done. I'm not sure the teams line up very well though. The M's would probably have some interest in Adam Lind, but he's not worth very much at all. They don't really need any arms...