GeorgiaPeach

Nope

Woo-Hoo we get to listen to A'ha every game.

I think Melky would accept a QO at 13-14m. And it would be foolish to give him that.

And yet they'll be kept for the remainder of the season and bid adieu getting nothing in return. And no I don't think either would be offered a QO.

Why do you believe that people who follow the MLB team the most and don't have a chance to go to the playoffs and express their opinion on how they perceive the rest of the season playing out, should all of a sudden stop following the team? To me that's the mindset of a non-baseball fan and at that point their opinion means f*** all.

If that happens, I want Alex to be in place of the girl in your profile pic.

My view of the team and when I speak is of the now and future years, not just the now. My view for the now, we're fielding a AAA lineup for atleast the next 3 weeks. And the rotation with Stroman & Hutch is now a respectable rotation, but not even close to the best. I'll give you the fact that the Jays are still close, which means something. But you're putting a lot of hope in a AAA lineup, or the full healthy lineup in coming back over the course of the final month & a half. We have an old team, so in a couple years when Reyes, Rasmus, Buehrle, Melky should be gone we have Lawrie who's good, Bautista pushing mid-late 30's and Edwin. The FO will have to go out and trade more of the farm to bring in the rest of the lineup and be left again with no farm and my guess is the players traded for will all be old and expensive again, because that appears to be the cool thing nowadays. I don't like talking about individual seasons, otherwise we might have to talk about Jesse Chavez like he's some sort of stud, meanwhile it's his first year he's ever been a productive starter at like 30. I understand very few GM's would put their star players on the block. I just don't wanna hear the FO yammer on about failing and the fan base crying, because it's sickening. If you have a good team, then yeah get excited and be joyous about wanting to make the playoffs, but for godsakes be realistic sometimes. A AAA lineup through July and into August is nothing to be excited about or even hope for. And then to expect injured players to come back and rake and carry the Jays into the playoffs is really pushing the limits of hope. I know one of two things will happen. 1. The Jays extend Bautista and Edwin to ridiculously expensive, but fair market contracts, thus further tying the hands financially of the team to do anything. 2. Play Jose & Edwin until their contracts run out for fear of trading face of the franchise players with little time left on their deals and upsetting the fans.

I agree, once they made the two trades and increased spending that FO would never trade Bautista or Edwin. But the difference between me and many others is, I'm willing to acknowledge a mistake early on and change direction. So many people are on here saying we're already waste deep in this pile of s***, but let's keep going until this thing blows up. I don't understand why a move like the Rays made in the Shields deal where they got back an absolute haul with an almost immediate impact with Myers and then the other pieces in Odorizzi, providing now couldn't be looked at? IMO a move like that could be made where the team essentially loses very little right off the hop and has other solid pieces coming very soon. Intelligent moves can be made without further burying the team.

So the Jays FO is doing what Ricciardi did during his spending spree, except the FO now is targeting guys who are on the verge of retirement. Sweet

I'll take either.

If it means there's no money for any improvements to the team aside from Lee for 2015? Definitely not.

It's our year boys.

I had to listen to this s*** defending the Dickey trade about him being a knuckleballer and a rock solid pitcher into his mid 40's because that's what knuckleballers do. Maeda at 25 per for 6 years and keeping all our prospects is way more attractive to me than dealing for Cliff Lee.

I'm more a fan of teams trying to win for a long time, opposed to a short run and then play the "we had our chance and have to re-tool for the next 4+ years" card.

We all know Cliff Lee is excellent. I still can't comprehend how Jays fans were giddy thinking about stomping on the Sox & Yanks two years ago because their teams were old and very close to, if not at max payroll. And these same idiot fans want the Jays FO to make the Jays an even older team and get push retardedly over max payroll.

Yet people here go ga-ga over 25m Cliff Lee and are willing to empty the farm for him. Get Buehrle outta here and use the insane amount of money he makes on something worthwhile.

Who would expect to get someone of Russell's calibre? But paying close to 20m for an innings eater is f***ing insane. Get a B prospect in return and put the saved money next year towards a Maeda bid.

And there's absolutely no reason to make moves like those.

You don't like listening to a Rod Black wannabe and Tabler jack off about every player on the field?

Come on man, Sil's all over FB daily hammering beers of the world during the World Cup. I had to up the ante for you. I can't envision you drinking the same stuff as him. It's game over for Sil once you get into the anti-freeze

Good call. I wish the Jays would end the Drabek starting idea. Then start trying to build him up in the 'pen for a bit with the intention of moving him for something of value.

Spanky's already 6 deep into a case of Drano, so I don't think he'll be making the trek down from the 'Shwa

I consider Gose easily a better defender than Jose. As for taking the hit offensively, hopefully the pieces you would be getting back for Jose would pick up the slack up for the garbage we'll be putting out in other spots.

You're right. When you boil it all down. I don't care who wins or loses, it's baseball. I love baseball. Although I'd prefer to watch a team with hope and thoughts of getting better, coupled with financial flexibility to make further moves. The team we're watching is a team that is what it is with nothing else left to think beyond....a good baseball team with a bunch of luck needed to make the playoffs. The rotation is not a playoff worthy rotation and the lineup for the next month is not a playoff worthy lineup. Maybe we can call it, Empty the Farm V2.0

Why does it always come across that fans are so averse to moving one of Bautista or Edwin? They can't even fathom the thought of moving one of them. They would rather let them walk off to free agency opposed to trading them. Moving one of Jose or Edwin would bring a much bigger return than what Samardzija just netted (Russell, McKinney + a smidge of Straily) agree? And the 10-14m owed to either JB or EE could be used to address immediate deficiencies. To me a trade bringing back way more than Samardzija's return, just opened up a window of years instead of hey we have JB or Edwin for 2 years and when they're gone things look like s***. So let's twiddle our thumbs and wait for things to collapse.