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General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
BTS replied to reedjohnsonfan's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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How many collapses on this scale have resulted in a return to relevancy? Freeing up a keeper spot is all the reason you need to cut bait on a 32-year old running a 50 wRC+ and about to leave Coors (probably).
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And here I am still patiently and eagerly waiting for Nelson Cruz to implode.
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Yesterday's FG article has alerted me to the fact that Carlos Gonzalez is running a wRC+ of 48 this year, and reminded me how truly appalled I am that SG got Mitch Keller for a guy who should have been dropped and should still be sitting on the waiver wire.
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Looking to see what kind of SP I can get for Raimel Tapia + my 1st.
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Still holding in BORED. Gimme two more months of that crafty lefty magic.
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Gonna be a crazy finish for the last few playoff spots. Dinger, Cyborg, and JG34 are currently within 8 games of 8th, 8.5 games of 7th, and 10 games of 6th.
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I don't think I've had bad luck with Kennedy. He's just a back end guy who lost a bit and isn't really usable anymore.
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Today was the last straw for me with Ian Kennedy. He's f***ing awful.
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Carlos Martinez looks like a damn fool.
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We really should change our division names.
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It could have flipped before today, and it felt like every starter you had pitched a gem. Except Duffy.
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Greenwood, that was a fun week. Finally managed to put you away.
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Eric Thames is running a 96 wRC+ with a 32% k-rate since the end of April. Pretty much exactly the player who left here years ago.
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Felix do the DL with bicep tendinitis. It's sad watching him fall apart.
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Yeah, he's a perfectly cromulent SP4. I just always cringe when managers get 6 strong from the Roarks and Vargases of the world then leave them in with a small lead because they haven't hit 100 pitches.
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Terrible pitcher Tanner Roark gets Washington to the bottom of the 7th with a 3-run lead over the Cubs, and Dusty Baker leaves him out there to give up 2+ runs even though was over 90 pitchers. I get it if its someone who is actually good, but why not quit while you're ahead and let Kintzler/Madson/Doolittle close it out?
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5/10 name. Unlikely to have staying power.
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Big Erv is my favourite. It seems like he should really suck, but year after year he provides the PRODUKSHUN.
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Terribly.
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I wonder if Bautista will retire. I hope he does. He's very bad now, and nobody wants to see him as one of those guys who spends his last few years going from team to team trying to latch on in a part time role.
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I'd set the O/U on 2.5 of them being back. Carrera because he seems well-liked and actually does a decent job as a 4th or 5th OF, Pearce because he's a talented player who's potential contributions in 2018 exceed his likely trade value, and Morales because he's not moveable.
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Well yeah, the team looks a lot better in 2018 if you add a couple of superstars, but I'll be shocked if the club is handing out $100M contracts in the offseason. I also don't share the optimism a lot of people seem to have about a Tulo bounce-back. Are you talking about bouncing back to 2-win level? Because that seems like a reasonable outcome. Any more than that seems very unlikely though. He hasn't been an above-average player since his 2014 hip surgery.
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It is not yet time for salami and cheese.
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It's really hard to see how this team ends up competitive next year. We're looking at something like: C - Martin (35) 1B - Smoak (31) 2B - Travis (27) 3B - Donaldson (32) SS - Tulowitzki (33) CF - Pillar (29) LF - Pearce (35) RF - DH - Morales (35) OF - Carrera (31) SP - Stroman (27) SP - Sanchez (26) SP - Happ (35) SP - SP - That's the framework of an old, injury prone core in its death throes, and given how reluctant the FO was to prop it up with significant investments in their first two offseasons, I'll be shocked if they make significant additions now that the team will be older and project even worse than the 2016 and 2017 versions. I think the most we'll see is mid-tier FA additions that amount to lipstick on a pig, and lots of public comments about how they want to win, while they know very well that they'll project to be average next year. And that's OK. The old, expensive, broken guys will be phased out eventually.
