He's an above average outfielder, average 2nd baseman, walks at a good clip, doesn't strike out much. He's really a perfect bench bat. You don't want to put a young prospect in a role where they may only be playing twice a week.
That's exactly what they should be doing. You can't create a supporting cast until you know what the primary cast is. Some prospects fail. It sucks for us to watch, but it's 100% the right move.
1) It may not have been their decision. In fact, I think that was already widely reported on that they wanted to blow it up and weren't allowed to.
2) Saying it wasn't the right move because of how things turned out doesn't mean it wasn't the right move at the time. You can get good results from bad process and bad results from good process. If the offer was too low at the time, then they made the right move to turn it down regardless of how things ended up.
It's possible, but seems very unlikely. More likely is talks just didn't get to a point where his agent thought it necessary to tell him. Maybe the Jays aren't too enthusiastic about extending him, or maybe Stroman's side is just asking for too much to be worth exploring. Who knows. I seriously doubt there's been no discussion at all between them though.
We don't know what Stroman is asking for. If we're dead set on trading him rather than paying him 5/75 or something, then management is being outrageous. If he's asking for 6/150, thanks for the memories and good luck.
It's really incredible just how much sink Stroman gets on that fastball. He's not quite Derek Lowe territory, but he doesn't have the same angle to work with either.
Yes, but that's not the point. The point is, the return probably would have been light at the time, and turning it down was probably correct (depending on who the other piece was).