Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Of course, I've mentioned his conditioning in my posts, Jays have all the resources in the world - they probably left well enough alone thinking he would continue where he left off last season - clearly not the case. If he comes into camp next season looking like he does now and underperforms again then we have a problem. Also, no guarantees we sign Jansen in 2025 - he's going to the highest bidder -as he should. I'm sure they've been told, they even let it be publicly known they weren't happy with Barriera coming in heavy at camp. I know Kirk came in fat, but he was dealing with a kid and s***, he might of not noticed he was a whale considering he shed a lot the season prior, but these guys coming back like that after all getting in better shape the season before is a fail on their fault, not the org.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Of course, I've mentioned his conditioning in my posts, Jays have all the resources in the world - they probably left well enough alone thinking he would continue where he left off last season - clearly not the case.If he comes into camp next season looking like he does now and underperforms again then we have a problem. Also, no guarantees we sign Jansen in 2025 - he's going to the highest bidder -as he should. I agree, give him a pass for this year since it was a weird situation. However im not optimistic he won’t still be fat next spring. Vlad didn’t come to camp in better shape even though he struggled last year. And Manoah was huge… we’ll see with these 3 guys but im not optimistic at all.
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 I'm sure they've been told, they even let it be publicly known they weren't happy with Barriera coming in heavy at camp. I know Kirk came in fat, but he was dealing with a kid and s***, he might of not noticed he was a whale considering he shed a lot the season prior, but these guys coming back like that after all getting in better shape the season before is a fail on their fault, not the org. yea that has to come from the player, just saying the org has a stupid amount of resources to assist - no excuses. Hopefully, he has it in him; Vlady did.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 yea that has to come from the player, just saying the org has a stupid amount of resources to assist - no excuses. Hopefully, he has it in him; Vlady did. Vlad did?? He’s still fat and underperforming
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Back when Ken Griffey Jr. played with Seattle and later with Cinci I made a point of trying to get out to games when he came to Toronto. Some players you just have to see. Ohtani is one of those. Agreed but it was too expensive to get to Seattle from Victoria this year. I saw Griffey, Buhner and Johnson back in 1990 I think? The Jays had Steib, Stottlemyre, McGriff, Olerud and Fernandez. Both teams were fun to watch that year.
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts... For those of you around Vancouver, Gibby will be at a Canadians game Aug 8th for a meet and greet. The team is calling it "Superstar appearance by John Gibbons". So there you go...Superstar.
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Vlad did?? He’s still fat and underperforming Is he underperforming because he's fat?
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 ..this is a really boring and shallow conversation
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 ..this is a really boring and shallow conversation Very shallow. Approximately subcutaneous. All they should really have to do is point to 2021 when Vlad definitely did put in effort in the off-season and was noticeably leaner than 2020. MVP caliber season. Should be all the motivation he needs to do it again this upcoming offseason
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 For those of you around Vancouver, Gibby will be at a Canadians game Aug 8th for a meet and greet. The team is calling it "Superstar appearance by John Gibbons". So there you go...Superstar. Yeah, he and his wife started a trek across Canada with his wife a videographer and photographer back before the season, I hope he really spent all this time in the Big White North.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 yea that has to come from the player, just saying the org has a stupid amount of resources to assist - no excuses. Hopefully, he has it in him; Vlady did. They sent both Vlad and Kirk personnel and it worked, same again this past season save for likely Kirk as he had a wedding and babies, I think.
WryNGinger Verified Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Very shallow. Approximately subcutaneous. All they should really have to do is point to 2021 when Vlad definitely did put in effort in the off-season and was noticeably leaner than 2020. MVP caliber season. Should be all the motivation he needs to do it again this upcoming offseason Vlad knowing that we at BJMB are disappointed in him should be all the motivation he needs.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Is he underperforming because he's fat? Unknown. He could shed 50 lbs and still be a disappointment
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 Vlad knowing that we at BJMB are disappointed in him should be all the motivation he needs. His motivation should be the fact that the Jays haven’t offered him 300 million yet. You think you’re worth 300+ ??? Prove it.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 He only hits 3/4 times a game, the rest of the time he spends being a really good receiver. You completely ignored that. He's 24, go look at Jansen at 24 I'm just honing in on your claim that his bat was for real, but the power wasn't and was curious how the f*** you think that is going to work. Keep deflecting though.
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 I thought the Blue Jays Apple TV games were done for the season? Apparently they added a few more! Looks like it. iptv is the way
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2023 Posted July 28, 2023 I'm just honing in on your claim that his bat was for real, but the power wasn't and was curious how the f*** you think that is going to work. Keep deflecting though. Sure.
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