GDT: Toronto Blow Jays @ Tampa Bay Unbeatables

[Orgfiller]

Nice job Varsho (+ baserunning), Vlad and Belt.

[Orgfiller]

Kiermaier trying to do too much there, tried to prevent the double which was never happening, instead resulted in a standup triple.

[Jays24]

Wow Kirk you fat f***... thats totally an error based on his weight and lack of Hustle.

 

Always gonna be reminded that we got rid of an elite athlete to keep this fat f*** around.

[Orgfiller]

Piss poor defense all around this inning.

[Jays24]

"Run prevention" folks. Might have to stop watching this team play. They're bad for my mental health lol

[John_Havok]

Yeah, this is the kind of stuff Manoah doesnt need, these runs were very preventable.

[EdwinsParrot]

just giving away the lead there with sloppy d everywhere

[Spanky99]

just giving away the lead there with sloppy d everywhere

 

Sloppy AF.

[DigitalRock]

This team is a mess right now not playing well

[Laika]

Double play yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Orgfiller]

Raley was just getting absurd jumps off Manoah. Couple that with him struggling to put these two guys away after getting to two strikes early…already a very frustrating game.

[wilko]

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/10871-Gdt-5-25-2023-tbj-tbr

[Spanky99]

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/10871-Gdt-5-25-2023-tbj-tbr

 

lol... just delete it bro.

[M.E.]

Trying to be positive. The pain of watching this team now is going to make the joy of watching them when they are rolling again that much better.

[John_Havok]

Manoah has something seriously wrong with his mechanics, how can they not find the problem??

 

Manoah right now on the mound looks like Kikuchi did all of last season, with that look of complete non-confidence on his face.

[John_Havok]

It is refershing to see hitters with good approaches though. They know he's struggling with location and missing bats so theyre just gonna take until 2 strikes and wait until he throws them something they won't miss....

[Captain_Obvious]

Time to send Manoah to the minors. We can afford to have below replacement level pitchers. Many already predicted Manoah coming back to earth this year (but not going through Earth's crust and dwelling in its core).

[John_Havok]

Watching Manoah right now is painful. You can just see there's something wrong

[Slade]

Some s***** defense has made Manoah look worse than he is today.

[John_Havok]

Time to send Manoah to the minors. We can afford to have below replacement level pitchers. Many already predicted Manoah coming back to earth this year (but not going through Earth's crust and dwelling in its core).

 

Yeah, this isn't numbers regressing, this is a full on problem with his skill being far worse than it was.

[Captain_Obvious]

Some s***** defense has made Manoah look worse than he is today.

 

I am not blaming him for the hits, but his BB/9 is unacceptable.

[John_Havok]

Some s***** defense has made Manoah look worse than he is today.

 

True, but he still looks really bad. The complete lack of command is killing him every game.

[Casual Fan]

Manoah has something seriously wrong with his mechanics, how can they not find the problem??

 

Manoah right now on the mound looks like Kikuchi did all of last season, with that look of complete non-confidence on his face.

 

 

Only difference is Kikuchi was humble and admitting he was not good, but Manoah is arrogant despite the fact that his performance has been garbage this year

[Laika]

f*** year, three walks in two innings

 

vintage Womanoah on the bump

[John_Havok]

f*** year, three walks in two innings

 

vintage Womanoah on the bump

 

How much longer than they really afford to have him taking the hill every 5th day?

[Slade]

How much longer than they really afford to have him taking the hill every 5th day?

 

Literally nobody in the minors right now that could help us.

[John_Havok]

Like the 4th line drive that's found a glove ... this extended stretch or horrible batted ball luck is just weird.

[John_Havok]

Literally nobody in the minors right now that could help us.

 

Probably not, but they have enough pen arms to shuttle back and forth they could piece together a pen day or two. LIke, if they weren't in the middle of this god awaful schedule where they only have 1 day off in like 35 days they could start skipping his spot or somthing.

 

Manoah also needs to get to the point where he snaps into realization that what he is currently doing isnt working and needs to do something different. I dont think he's gotten there yet.

 

Quite honestly, I think they should make him throw nothing but sinkers for an entire inning and just see how it goes. That's the one pitch he seems to be able to put in the strike zone somewhat regularly. Go back to minor league style pitch selection

[TorontonianJD]

Wow Kirk you fat f***... thats totally an error based on his weight and lack of Hustle.

 

Always gonna be reminded that we got rid of an elite athlete to keep this fat f*** around.

 

I agree. Keeping Kirk over Moreno will be the black mark of this FO. Just terrible.

 

Also Springer should be at least DHing today. Giving up on the season?

 

How much longer until Schneider is fired?

[Orgfiller]

They're getting laughable jumps off of him. Clearly he's too rattled by the s***** command to even notice each runner reading him like a book and getting a gigantic lead.