General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Daniel Labude]

Doesn't change my point

 

Except hitting sinkers to CF and RF vs pulling them has been a big the difference in HRs this year for Vlad. I think about 10 HRs different the last I looked. Last year sinkers over the plate Vlad would homer to RC or CF on an inside out swing or at least double on a line drive. So no, your point is incorrect

[Scion]

Springer probably shouldn't be playing at all... 78 wRC+ the last 20 games and he looks uncomfortable. Guys playing with nagging injuries almost never works.... at this level you need to be as close to 100% as possible, any downgrade is going to be negatively impactful. Admittedly there may be intangibles with having him in the lineup but he's basically another Tapia right now.

 

I hate to disappoint you, but almost no one is close to 100% this time of year. Additionally, a compromised Springer is still better than our alternatives.

[Daniel Labude]

Listen if Vlad learns to layoff the slider down and away that would be sweet, but some of you guys seem to think it's easy to spit on it, the pitch is designed by tunneling it repeatedly, it's a hard pitch to lay off. It could be a variety of reasons, pitch recognition, he isn't making the correct tweeks, he's in his head, etc, etc... but LTBF blows me away with the coaching, it's comical.

 

I figured there are some knowledgeable and good people on here who would like to know what is going on. But by all means stick with....PULL DAT BALL. So basic with little understanding or knowledge of the game

[Stangstag]

Springer probably shouldn't be playing at all... 78 wRC+ the last 20 games and he looks uncomfortable. Guys playing with nagging injuries almost never works.... at this level you need to be as close to 100% as possible, any downgrade is going to be negatively impactful. Admittedly there may be intangibles with having him in the lineup but he's basically another Tapia right now.

 

I said this about Springer like 3 or 4 times over the last couple seasons and he always proved me wrong… I think the 78wRC+ is probably just a slump tbh. He’s probably still a 100ish wRC+ bat even playing semi-injured

[Spanky99]

I figured there are some knowledgeable and good people on here who would like to know what is going on. But by all means stick with....PULL DAT BALL. So basic with little understanding or knowledge of the game

 

lol... you give yourself far too much credit. PULL DAT BALL... da fuq?

[Daniel Labude]

lol... you give yourself far too much credit. PULL DAT BALL... da fuq?

 

I'm not giving myself credit...just having a discussion about what is going on and why. Real question is why does that pain you so much

[Stangstag]

lol!! Dude was stuck in 2018? I dont think his D metrics are near what they used to be but he is still a pretty solid piece on D at least with the eye test, FWIW. Certainly compared to Tapia, Whit, Biggio, Teo and LGJ. He used to have some pop but not anymore.

 

I was more perplexed by the "power hitter" label he was giving JBJ

[Laika]

Except hitting sinkers to CF and RF vs pulling them has been a big the difference in HRs this year for Vlad. I think about 10 HRs different the last I looked. Last year sinkers over the plate Vlad would homer to RC or CF on an inside out swing or at least double on a line drive. So no, your point is incorrect

 

Alright teams will keep throwing sliders down and away and Vlad and coach will work on inside outing sinkers

 

Good chat

[Laika]

Like you have to be a f***ing moron to think that sinker approach is the problem

 

run production: 2021, 2022

 

4-Seamers: +32, +7

Sliders: +10, -3

Sinkers: +7, +3

Changeup: +2, -4

 

this is black and white data, right there on statcast

 

f*** you you f***ing twerp and your "so no, your point is incorrect" garbage shove that s*** directly up your ass and twist it around until it hurts you fartface bike licker

[Spanky99]

Like you have to be a f***ing moron to think that sinker approach is the problem

 

run production: 2021, 2022

 

4-Seamers: +32, +7

Sliders: +10, -3

Sinkers: +7, +3

Changeup: +2, -4

 

this is black and white data, right there on statcast

 

f*** you you f***ing twerp and your "so no, your point is incorrect" garbage shove that s*** directly up your ass and twist it around until it hurts you fartface bike licker

 

lol

[Spanky99]

I'm not giving myself credit...just having a discussion about what is going on and why. Real question is why does that pain you so much

 

Your stupidity.

[Jimcanuck]

Some severe breaking of forum rules in here.

[Spanky99]

Some severe breaking of forum rules in here.

 

Bird.

[Laika]

Some severe breaking of forum rules in here.

 

cram it up yer cramhole old man

[Jimcanuck]

I don't care, but I thought the whole reason for the rules in the first place was to encourage more posting, as opposed to less or people leaving BJMB altogether.

 

Think big picture rather than swinging your dick.

[L54]

Jim is right Laila is wrong

 

It’s like sending illegal immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard. The powers that be want to pretend they are morally superior, as long as the rules don’t apply to them.

 

Very sad to see

[L54]

I love Justin Trudeau

[Spanky99]

I love Justin Trudeau

 

lol

[Omar]

Break out the piggy bank!

 

[Spanky99]

I love Justin Trudeau

 

GESTAPOOOOOOOOOooo...

[Jimcanuck]

10 x 35M for Vlad?

 

Seems a little high to me

[Stangstag]

10 x 35M for Vlad?

 

Seems a little high to me

 

Yeah that’s too high at this point IMO. Should be closer to what Austin Riley got. Vlad is younger but plays a worse position. I’d say around 250/10

[jaysblue]

I love Justin Trudeau

 

He loves you as well

[Spanky99]

Why would Vlad do 10??? He'd want FTJ, J-Rod term.

[jaysblue]

Yeah that’s too high at this point IMO. Should be closer to what Austin Riley got. Vlad is younger but plays a worse position. I’d say around 250/10

 

Between 250-300M over 10 years IMO is very fair for both parties.

[Jimcanuck]

Why would Vlad do 10??? He'd want FTJ, J-Rod term.

 

if thats the case, no deal

 

i cant see the jays doing more than 10

[Spanky99]

if thats the case, no deal

 

i cant see the jays doing more than 10

 

Prepare for opt-outs then.

[Stangstag]

Between 250-300M over 10 years IMO is very fair for both parties.

 

I’d agree. Now… if they wait and he has another season like he did in 2021 then it’s definitely gotta be 300+

[Stangstag]

Prepare for opt-outs then.

 

Fine by me. If the price is gonna be astronomical anyways, why not just ride out his control until he’s a free agent

[Spanky99]

I’d agree. Now… if they wait and he has another season like he did in 2021 then it’s definitely gotta be 300+

 

Hah... 400M