2019 MLB Draft | Day 2 Thread

[Krylian]

One more round until THE Spencer Jones get's drafted!

 

It's the 11th round already?

[Deadpool]

It's f***ing ridiculous that rounds 3 through 9.5 have taken over 5 hours already today. Holy balls.

[jays4life19]

It's the 11th round already?

 

We're on round 10. I guess Jones will go somewhere from 11-20.

[Deadpool]

These guys have no idea who Glenn Santiago is. I mean, I don't either, but y'know...

 

I like signable 18 year olds in rounds 10+

[Deadpool]

Perfect Game USA

 

Glenn Santiago is a 2019 SS with a 6-0 160 lb. frame from Guanica, PR who attends International Baseball Academy. Slender athletic build with lots of room to get stronger. 6.75 runner has run down to 6.4 in the past, has quick twitchy actions in the infield with clean and soft hands at the ball, very good raw arm strength, light on his feet and stays low through the ball, has the tools to stay at shortstop for a long time. Right handed hitter, has loose hands and an easy swing, fluid path, hits with rhythm and barrels up the ball consistently, not strong yet but will improve as he matures physically. Good student, verbal commitment to Florida International.

 

Link.

[Jonn]

My guess is the Blue Jays have a plan to draft Braden Halladay in the 32nd round. And the Phillies will come in and ruin that by taking him in 30th or 31st round.

[BlueRocky]

These guys have no idea who Glenn Santiago is. I mean, I don't either, but y'know...

 

I like signable 18 year olds in rounds 10+

 

This almost feels like a J2 IFA signing

18 yrs shortstop lottery ticket currently has a glove and runs fast

[BlueRocky]

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2019-mlb-draft-analysis-one-pick-we-loved-from-each-round-on-day-2/

Draft Analysis: One Pick We Loved From Each Round On Day 2

 

By Carlos Collazo J.J. Cooper on June 4, 2019

 

J.J. Cooper and Carlos Collazo dished on the most intriguing pick from each round of Day 2.

 

3RD ROUND

 

Player: Matthew Allan, RHP, Seminole HS, Sanford, Fla. (BA RANK: 16)

Team: New York Mets

Pick: 89

 

Carlos Collazo: Matthew Allan is the story of Day 2. He was obviously the highest-rated high school pitcher that we had on our board. After he wasn't selected on Day 1, most expected he'd head to campus at Florida and be one of the victim of teams being skeptical, or a little more risk-averse, of high school righthanded pitchers. Or maybe just a guy who fell because of his signability.

 

The fact the Mets went out and took him in the third round was very aggressive and an interesting move for them. It'll be interesting to see how they handle their signability by taking, potentially, three first round talents in Brett Baty, Josh Wolf and Matthew Allan.

 

Were you expecting the Mets to be this aggressive?

 

I don't think the Mets were. Looking back and seeing who they took with their first pick, Brett Baty was frequently a name mentioned to teams in the Top 10 for an under-slot deal. Depending on how much he's going to cost, I think they'll put some savings from that pick toward Matthew Allan. Seeing what they did after taking Allan, it sounds like they're going to save a lot of money on seniors. They started going seniors earlier than anyone else in this class. But I wouldn't say they were an obvious pick prior to this.

 

4TH ROUND

 

Player: Graeme Stinson, LHP, Duke (BA RANK: 84)

Team: Tampa Bay Rays

Pick: 128

 

Carlos Collazo: Stinson was the highest pitcher we had rated, high school or college, in the preseason because of electric stuff. A potential 70-grade fastball and 70-grade curveball. His stuff backed up this spring in limited innings. He didn't pitch much at all after his third or fourth start of the season. There were a lot of questions of injury with him and what his stuff would look like when he got healthy. We wondered where he'd fall to, because the talent, at its best, is among the best in the class. But there's obviously a lot of risk with the injury and the fact he didn't pitch much this spring."

 

5TH ROUND

 

Player: Will Holland, SS, Auburn (BA RANK: 72)

Team: Minnesota Twins

Pick: 149

 

Carlos Collazo: This is an exciting one here. Entering the season, we thought he could be a first round talent with his speed, his defensive ability and some pop he had shown in the bat previously. He really struggled to hit the entire year. Scouts had some concerns about his feel to hit and if he would struggle against higher pitching in the next level. If he does figure it out, he has immense upside as a talented defensive shortstop with some speed.

 

That's just another guy who fell. He doesn't have much track record of hitting outside of his sophomore season. That's when he performed really well. He started as a freshman and struggled offensively there, and also struggled as a junior. There are a lot of questions about his hit tool. But he has an exciting pure tool set you wouldn't normally find in the fifth round.

 

6TH ROUND

 

Player: Cooper Johnson, C, Mississippi (BA RANK: 108)

Team: Detroit Tigers

Pick: 172

 

J.J. Cooper: We expected Johnson to go off the board significantly earlier than this, largely because college catchers usually move up boards.

 

Teams want college catchers. They need catchers and they feel really comfortable about college catchers who perform, who show their defensive chops to handle the position. Cooper Johnson is the third-best defensive catcher in this class behind two guys who went in the Top 10 (Adley Rutschman and Shea Langeliers). Because of that, we expected him to go pretty high. Instead, he did last until the sixth round.

 

I love that pick for the Tigers because of that. They now have, between him and Jake Rogers, a pair of potentially above-average defenders. In both cases, they face some questions about the bat. But I know Carlos and I both talked to multiple scouts this year who are confident that Cooper Johnson has a big league career ahead of him. There are not a lot of sixth round picks that you can say are likely big leaguers.

 

Because of his defensive ability, and if the bat continues to improve, there's a possibility he could even be more than just a backup. He could be a regular. The bar for a big league, regular catcher, if you can frame, if you can defend, is pretty low.

 

7TH ROUND

 

Player: Brock Bell, RHP, State College of Florida Manatee - Sarasota

Team: Boston Red Sox

Pick: 227

 

J.J. Cooper: He's a righthander out of the State College of Florida, which I always still call the State College Of Florida JC Manatee. Really good program that has produced a lot of draftees over the years.

 

Bell's interesting. Son of a big leaguer (Jay Bell). But he's even more interesting than that because he's a guy coming off injury. He blew out his arm a couple years ago. Made it back this year midseason. When he did, the stuff was better.

 

He was a two-way player before the injury. The stuff was better than it was pre-injury. He was touching 97 and showing, at times, a 12-6 breaking ball that shows the potential to be an above-average breaking ball. He even flashed a changeup. Struck out a ton of batters in not a lot of innings -- 23:3 strikeout-to-walk in, I believe, 13 innings.

 

There's a lot there. A lot of upside there. Now, there's very little track record. And that very little track record is at the junior college level. So there's some risk. But that's why he lasted until the last pick of the seventh round. That said, he has more ceiling than most of the guys taken in the seventh round, I would argue. He could be a very interesting arm for the Red Sox.

 

8TH ROUND

 

Player: David Hamilton, SS, Texas (BA RANK: 223)

Team: Milwaukee Brewers

Pick: 253

 

J.J. Cooper: He's yet another of these wild cards in the second day, much like Graeme Stinson. Unlike Stinson, David Hamilton never got to show what he could do this year.

 

He was expected to be the cornerstone of the Texas Longhorns. He was a guy who was a key part of the team that made it to Omaha in 2018 as a shortstop. He goes down with an Achilles injury before the season ever begins, and without him, they don't make the tournament this year. That's partly because they lost their middle of the infield leader. There are questions about the bat. There have been questions about the bat. But he is a solid defender at shortstop and should be able to stay at the position.

 

All of this assumes he is able to make a full recovery from a very significant injury. But that's why he's going in the eighth round. There's an upside play there not a lot of eighth round picks have.

 

9TH ROUND

 

Player: Will Bartlett, 1B/C, IMG Academy, Bradenton, Fla. (BA RANK: 319)

Team: Cleveland Indians

Pick: 280

 

Carlos Collazo: He's the fourth prospect selected from IMG Academy, which was a loaded high school team this spring. He entered the season less hyped than a number of IMG players, including the three who went in front of him (Brennan Malone, Rece Hinds, Kendall Williams). But he was arguably the most consistent hitter on the team, and that includes a player with the biggest raw power in the class (Rece Hinds). Bartlett also has big power.

 

He has plus power to all fields and a more advanced approach offensively, at this point, than Rece Hinds. The profile is the question for him. The Indians drafted him as a catcher, which is interesting, because he mostly played first base for his high school team. He's big for the position and will need to refine his actions behind the plate if he's going to stick there. But he's more than likely going to end up at first base, where while it will be tough, he has a chance to profile offensively.

 

10TH ROUND

 

Player: C.J. Stubbs, C, Southern California (BA RANK: 430)

Team: Houston Astros

Pick: 316

 

J.J. Cooper: The Astros now have a pair of catching Stubbs brothers in the organization. Garrett just made his big league debut. C.J., who was a pitcher and then had Tommy John surgery, followed in his brother's footsteps and had a pretty solid season behind the plate this year. Like his brother, he has a really good arm. This year, he showed an ability to hit for average as well. The average dipped late in the season -- I think he wore down. He did post a .378 on-base and .466 slugging percentage this year. It's going to be unlikely he ends up as productive as his brother. His brother was a star in college. His brother was a really good catcher as well. At the same time, they now have two Stubbs brothers in the organization.

 

Edited June 5, 2019 by BlueRocky

[jays4life19]

Will Holland

[Key22]

Jays draft Tanner Morris, #124 on BA Top 500, #104 on MLB.com, and #100 on Fangraphs

 

Left handed bat that likes hitting the ball the other way and probably gets moved to third base - umm Wade Boggs profile. I'll take that!

[jmomcc]

So, Spencer Jones.. at this point, he's unsignable right? What about these other top 150 prep guys... same story?

[Jonn]

So, Spencer Jones.. at this point, he's unsignable right? What about these other top 150 prep guys... same story?

 

Anyone that signs for more than $125k counts against the teams pool money. So yea its very unlikely any of the top school players sign in rounds 11-40. They will probably get taken at the end of the draft for the sake of being drafted.

[jmomcc]

Anyone that signs for more than $125k counts against the teams pool money. So yea its very unlikely any of the top school players sign in rounds 11-40. They will probably get taken at the end of the draft for the sake of being drafted.

 

Wait, so when they give seniors 5k, that isn't to save pool money, that's just because MLB teams are cheap as f***?

[Spanky__99]

Wait, so when they give seniors 5k, that isn't to save pool money, that's just because MLB teams are cheap as f***?

 

Wat? They're giving these guys a shot to extend their baseball careers, unless they want to go overseas or play Indy-ball, it's clearly their choice. If they don't like it, play better.

[jmomcc]

Wat? They're giving these guys a shot to extend their baseball careers, unless they want to go overseas or play Indy-ball, it's clearly their choice. If they don't like it, play better.

 

They are giving them 5k. They are cheap as f***. Just give them 50k. MLB teams tons of money.

[Spanky__99]

They are giving them 5k. They are cheap as f***. Just give them 50k. MLB teams tons of money.

 

lol... yeah just toss money away on orgfiller, at least they're getting a shot to play pro ball. Most don't even make it through camp.

[jmomcc]

lol... yeah just toss money away on orgfiller, at least they're getting a shot to play pro ball. Most don't even make it through camp.

 

The whole point of the entire structure of MLB contracts and the draft and the coming international draft is to suppress how much money they have to spend on players. MLB front offices know they are saving millions off the true cost of players (the red sox spent 65m on moncada for gods sake and now the most international guys get is like 5m).

 

So, yes they are cheap f***s. It would be nice if at the very least that they gave a reasonable minimum to anyone who is drafted. 50k sounds like a good number to me.

[Spanky__99]

The whole point of the entire structure of MLB contracts and the draft and the coming international draft is to suppress how much money they have to spend on players. MLB front offices know they are saving millions off the true cost of players (the red sox spent 65m on moncada for gods sake and now the most international guys get is like 5m).

 

So, yes they are cheap f***s. It would be nice if at the very least that they gave a reasonable minimum to anyone who is drafted. 50k sounds like a good number to me.

 

Well, they just wouldn't sign them, teams punt their picks all the time.

[Jonn]

They are giving them 5k. They are cheap as f***. Just give them 50k. MLB teams tons of money.

 

A lot of these guys might even get less than $5k. Some sign for the price of a hot dog. The point of these cheaper signed players is that these guys are going to have the opportunity to get drafted much higher than they ever could have expected to. You can make the case that some of them don't get drafted at all under the old system of no budget. With the pool money in place teams need to find a way to maximize the players they get so this is the alternative. Its not about being cheap. Teams aren't obligated to give these players money just because they are rich.

[Krylian]

The whole point of the entire structure of MLB contracts and the draft and the coming international draft is to suppress how much money they have to spend on players. MLB front offices know they are saving millions off the true cost of players (the red sox spent 65m on moncada for gods sake and now the most international guys get is like 5m).

 

So, yes they are cheap f***s. It would be nice if at the very least that they gave a reasonable minimum to anyone who is drafted. 50k sounds like a good number to me.

 

You sounds like a unionized employee.

 

If they don't like the offer, they don't have to sign...but these agreements are made before the draft even takes place. If they don't like the $5K, teams just won't draft them...and they can take their chances at finding a deal as an undrafted FA. Of course it's cap/pool manipulation, but MLB did this to themselves by creating this slot system. Less talented players are just not going to get rewarded with any sort of substantial signing bonus.

[jmomcc]

A lot of these guys might even get less than $5k. Some sign for the price of a hot dog. The point of these cheaper signed players is that these guys are going to have the opportunity to get drafted much higher than they ever could have expected to. You can make the case that some of them don't get drafted at all under the old system of no budget. With the pool money in place teams need to find a way to maximize the players they get so this is the alternative. Its not about being cheap. Teams aren't obligated to give these players money just because they are rich.

 

Wait, you are the person who first replied to me.

 

What the hell did you mean in your original comment then? I assumed that the reason they paid so low was for pool money purposes but you said only amounts over 125k counted. Obviously, if that is not true I understand why they are so low.

[jmomcc]

You sounds like a unionized employee.

 

If they don't like the offer, they don't have to sign...but these agreements are made before the draft even takes place. If they don't like the $5K, teams just won't draft them...and they can take their chances at finding a deal as an undrafted FA. Of course it's cap/pool manipulation, but MLB did this to themselves by creating this slot system. Less talented players are just not going to get rewarded with any sort of substantial signing bonus.

 

I assumed originally it was cap/pool manipulation. I was told further up the thread that only amounts above 125k count against the pool. If that is the case, then they would have a lot of leeway to choose what to spend.

[Jonn]

Wait, you are the person who first replied to me.

 

What the hell did you mean in your original comment then? I assumed that the reason they paid so low was for pool money purposes but you said only amounts over 125k counted. Obviously, if that is not true I understand why they are so low.

 

I don't know what you're failing to understand. All the picks from rounds 1-10 have a money amount assigned to that pick. You can go over it or under that slot but your entire pool is the total amount of all those picks. When you get to the 11th round those players no longer have a set money slot amount assigned to those picks. However is you go over $125k through rounds 11-40 which all those high end prep players will cost than those players count against your pool as well. And thats why I said that.

[Spanky__99]

I assumed originally it was cap/pool manipulation. I was told further up the thread that only amounts above 125k count against the pool. If that is the case, then they would have a lot of leeway to choose what to spend.

 

It is true, teams are allocated money to spend on the players they draft anyway they seem fit. There's a reason teams take seniors through the draft early, to take a flier on prep players that dropped usually because of signability issues whether it's money or school commitment.

[AintNoThang]

Will Holland

 

There's no crying in baseball!

[jays4life19]

There's no crying in baseball!

 

Too late

[jmomcc]

I don't know what you're failing to understand. All the picks from rounds 1-10 have a money amount assigned to that pick. You can go over it or under that slot but your entire pool is the total amount of all those picks. When you get to the 11th round those players no longer have a set money slot amount assigned to those picks. However is you go over $125k through rounds 11-40 which all those high end prep players will cost than those players count against your pool as well. And thats why I said that.

 

I thought you meant anything under 125k period for the entire draft doesn’t count against your pool.

 

That’s only the case for rounds 11-40? Just to clarify. They could sign every guy from round 11-40 for 124k and that would count zero against their pool. Correct?

[Spanky__99]

I thought you meant anything under 125k period for the entire draft doesn’t count against your pool.

 

That’s only the case for rounds 11-40? Just to clarify. They could sign every guy from round 11-40 for 124k and that would count zero against their pool. Correct?

 

Correct, but they won't.

[jmomcc]

Correct, but they won't.

 

Oh, ok. Yea, they are cheap.

 

I don’t care if they don’t have to, either. If I know someone doesn’t tip, I think they are cheap as well.

[metafour]

Oh, ok. Yea, they are cheap.

 

I don’t care if they don’t have to, either. If I know someone doesn’t tip, I think they are cheap as well.

 

You must be a business virtuoso.

 

Why would you pay someone more than they are worth? Are you claiming that you are cheap if you don't give some scrub drafted in the 37th round the full $125K?

 

Players generally get paid what they are deemed to be worth, regardless of where they are drafted. A guy who only signs for $10K did so for a reason.