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Abomination Buffalo Bisons

Abomination

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https://www.fangraphs.com/projections.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&type=steamer&team=0&lg=all&players=0&sort=22,d

 

Vlad projects as the 10th best hitter in baseball, even though he's 19 years old and has never played an MLB game.

 

Haven't looked past 10 yet.

 

They're projecting him to have the highest batting average too. I mean, I think Vladdy is gonna be great, but that's a little absurd for a guy who hasn't played a game yet. I also have doubts about positive defensive value.

P2F Toronto Blue Jays

P2F

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Do you think you could do the honourable thing and slap an NSFW tag on this thread, BTS? Some of us are at work.
Orgfiller All-Star

Orgfiller

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They're projecting him to have the highest batting average too. I mean, I think Vladdy is gonna be great, but that's a little absurd for a guy who hasn't played a game yet. I also have doubts about positive defensive value.

 

The defensive value is probably set around the same for all rookies so you're likely only seeing positional adjustment plus some fixed mean UZR score.

 

Even if his defense was not good that's still a projected 4-win 20 year old rookie lmao.

BTS GOAT

BTS

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Wow, our pitching staff projects to be terrible. Stroman leads with 2.4 fWAR, and after him Merryweather, Gaviglio, Pannone, Reid-Foley, Borucki, and Sanchez all project as ~1-win guys over 30+ starts. We have one SP3 and a bunch of SP6s. This needs to be addressed in the offseason.

 

Our only relievers projected for a sub-4 FIP are Giles and Paulino.

Bobthe4th Toronto Blue Jays

Bobthe4th

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Wow, our pitching staff projects to be terrible. Stroman leads with 2.4 fWAR, and after him Merryweather, Gaviglio, Pannone, Reid-Foley, Borucki, and Sanchez all project as ~1-win guys over 30+ starts. We have one SP3 and a bunch of SP6s. This needs to be addressed in the offseason.

 

Our only relievers projected for a sub-4 FIP are Giles and Paulino.

 

Ho-hum, projections for non elite relievers are basically worthless, and I'll take the over on the projections for at least 3 of the starters.

King All-Star

King

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Ho-hum, projections for non elite relievers are basically worthless, and I'll take the over on the projections for at least 3 of the starters.

 

The projections may be conservative but I don't think BTS is wrong. The pitching staff should definitely be addressed.

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Bobthe4th

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The projections may be conservative but I don't think BTS is wrong. The pitching staff should definitely be addressed.

 

We should be signing at least one starter, but yeah those projections would be incredibly disappointing if they ended up being close to accurate.

King All-Star

King

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We should be signing at least one starter, but yeah those projections would be incredibly disappointing if they ended up being close to accurate.

 

I would be interested to hear your projections.

 

Stromans seems accurate to me, he's at about 3 wins over 200 innings.

 

Sanchez has shown nothing since 2016. There's a good chance that he's Actually Bad.

 

I think Borucki overperformed last year but I'd be comfortable penciling him as 2 win starter.

 

Pannone might actually be trash.

 

SRF is likely going to start in AAA and needs to improve his command.

 

I would be comfortable projecting Gaviglio as a 1-1.5 win pitcher over the course of the season.

 

I dunno.. seems reasonable.

Bobthe4th Toronto Blue Jays

Bobthe4th

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I would be interested to hear your projections.

 

Stromans seems accurate to me, he's at about 3 wins over 200 innings.

 

Sanchez has shown nothing since 2016. There's a good chance that he's Actually Bad.

 

I think Borucki overperformed last year but I'd be comfortable penciling him as 2 win starter.

 

Pannone might actually be trash.

 

SRF is likely going to start in AAA and needs to improve his command.

 

I would be comfortable projecting Gaviglio as a 1-1.5 win pitcher over the course of the season.

 

I dunno.. seems reasonable.

 

If Stroman and Sanchez pitch 194 and 164 innings (nearly double what they pitched this year) I'd expect both to beat their projections of 2.4 and 0.9 WAR. Obviously that's a big if! I don't agree with the narrative that Sanchez has shown nothing, and he's hardly had any injury free starts in 2 years. This year is obviously vital for him to first try to have a run of no injuries, and then prove whether he's still a legitimate starter when fully fit. If he gets injured again he won't get any where near the projected innings.

 

With the seemingly limited budget and therefore assuming we don't sign multiple starters, Borucki and/or SRF should get 20+ starts . If that happens it'd be disappointing if they both suck.

 

I doubt we see Merryweather in the rotation until late in the season. Gavligio fits as a 5th/6th starter type. Pannone has more chance of cracking the 25 man as a reliever IMO.

 

So overall, in a year where we aren't expected to be a serious contender, IMO our rotation isn't that bad with 1 or 2 sensible additions. Meanwhile the bullpen has Giles and the usual random chance pieces, that bar spending serious money is fine. There will be a few relievers that have good seasons out of nowhere, a few that are terrible and are DFA, and the usual turnover that we always see.

glory Vancouver Canadians

glory

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Vlad and Jansen are projected to be our best position players. The young position players coming up through the system is this team’s saving grace.
Boxcar All-Star

Boxcar

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So basically nothing BTS said was wrong aside from Sanchez showing nothing which is literally true.

 

Lol Jesus Christ. Hopefully this guy doesn't quit the board soon after putting 75% of the people here on ignore.

Bobthe4th Toronto Blue Jays

Bobthe4th

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Vlad and Jansen are projected to be our best position players. The young position players coming up through the system is this team’s saving grace.

 

Best case would be the Braves with an earlier than expected playoff challenge. That'd probably require players like Tellez working out (so Morales getting injured / traded) as well as Jansen & Gurriel, Stroman/Sanchez being injury free and a few pitchers having good years, on top of Vlad being elite straight away.

 

Even if that doesn't happen it should be an interesting season!

Jimcanuck Buffalo Bisons

Jimcanuck

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Vlad and Jansen are projected to be our best position players. The young position players coming up through the system is this team’s saving grace.

 

Grichuk and Smoak projected to have a better bat than Jansen. For some reason they have both as negative defenders. Smoak in particular. My eye test doesn't support that.

Boxcar All-Star

Boxcar

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Grichuk and Smoak projected to have a better bat than Jansen. For some reason they have both as negative defenders. Smoak in particular. My eye test doesn't support that.

 

No they don't. Both are projected as slightly above average.

Bobthe4th Toronto Blue Jays

Bobthe4th

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Grichuk and Smoak projected to have a better bat than Jansen. For some reason they have both as negative defenders. Smoak in particular. My eye test doesn't support that.

 

They might be projecting Smoak to spend time at DH with Morales, Tulo (and Vlad) on the roster.

Jimcanuck Buffalo Bisons

Jimcanuck

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They might be projecting Smoak to spend time at DH with Morales, Tulo (and Vlad) on the roster.

 

A -11.7 positional adjustment seems high. must be range, but there are a lot of s***** 1B out there

jaysblue Buffalo Bisons

jaysblue

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Best case would be the Braves with an earlier than expected playoff challenge. That'd probably require players like Tellez working out (so Morales getting injured / traded) as well as Jansen & Gurriel, Stroman/Sanchez being injury free and a few pitchers having good years, on top of Vlad being elite straight away.

 

Even if that doesn't happen it should be an interesting season!

 

Also, would require a team like the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays having bad luck either with injuries, player performances etc.

 

Atlanta was lucky that the Washington Nationals had a down year, Philly faded down the stretch and that the Mets and Marlins sucked.

Dick_Pole FCL Blue Jays

Dick_Pole

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The projections may be conservative but I don't think BTS is wrong. The pitching staff should definitely be addressed.

 

Vlad and Jansen are projected to be our best position players. The young position players coming up through the system is this team’s saving grace.

 

See this is why I keep coming back to this place, for top notch analysis like this. Without you guys setting me straight I'd be hoping for the team to sign some old vets to shore up 3B and the OF and give the young guys a shot at SP.

glory Vancouver Canadians

glory

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Best case would be the Braves with an earlier than expected playoff challenge. That'd probably require players like Tellez working out (so Morales getting injured / traded) as well as Jansen & Gurriel, Stroman/Sanchez being injury free and a few pitchers having good years, on top of Vlad being elite straight away.

 

Even if that doesn't happen it should be an interesting season!

 

If they go all in on the youth movement for the position player side and add pieces to the rotation, then it probably still won't be enough to seriously contend, but might make it entertaining all year.

 

Get whatever you can for Smoak/Pillar/Martin/Tulo/Morales, and roll with a position player roster of Vlad (after 3 weeks), Jansen, Grichuk, Drury, Gurriel, Tellez, Hernandez, McKinney, Diaz, Maile, Pompey (if they decide to keep him), and maybe sign/trade for another outfielder to replace Pillar's outfield spot (ex. trade for an arb eligible Grichuk type that another team has given up on, or sign a vet stop gap). Use DH to rotate the young players around.

 

Young players means high variance. They'll need a bunch of things to go right but 2019 is a transition year anyway. Try to be as good as possible so that the timetable is moved up.

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Bobthe4th Toronto Blue Jays

Bobthe4th

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If they go all in on the youth movement for the position player side and add pieces to the rotation, then it probably still won't be enough to seriously contend, but might make it entertaining all year.

 

Get whatever you can for Smoak/Pillar/Martin/Tulo/Morales, and roll with a position player roster of Vlad (after 3 weeks), Jansen, Grichuk, Drury, Gurriel, Tellez, Hernandez, McKinney, Diaz, Maile, Pompey (if they decide to keep him), and maybe sign/trade for another outfielder to replace Pillar's outfield spot (ex. trade for an arb eligible Grichuk type that another team has given up on, or sign a vet stop gap). Use DH to rotate the young players around.

 

Young players means high variance. They'll need a bunch of things to go right but 2019 is a transition year anyway. Try to be as good as possible so that the timetable is moved up.

 

Would be cool to see! I'd replace Drury with Bo or Travis, and Pompey with Smith Jr.

 

It's not going to happen though obv. Smoak could be a valuable trade piece at the deadline, no one is taking Tulo or Morales, Martin and/or Pillar might be traded now if there's interest.

Spanky99 GOAT

Spanky99

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A -11.7 positional adjustment seems high. must be range, but there are a lot of s***** 1B out there

 

I'm not a big believer in defensive metrics, he's a good 1st baseman, his digs aren't calculated. It's certainly range.

Spanky99 GOAT

Spanky99

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See this is why I keep coming back to this place, for top notch analysis like this. Without you guys setting me straight I'd be hoping for the team to sign some old vets to shore up 3B and the OF and give the young guys a shot at SP.

 

I don't follow? It's just projections.

Krylian MVP

Krylian

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Vlad and Jansen are projected to be our best position players. The young position players coming up through the system is this team’s saving grace.

 

Gonna be a lot of 10-8 losses if they don't get the pitching straightened out. And it's not like we have a slew of stud arms knocking on the door.

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