tercet Verified Member Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 Beer is the world's oldest and most widely consumed alcoholic drink; it is the third most popular drink overall, after water and tea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer Seth Beer http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?P=seth-beer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Beer Seth Beer will be the first college hitter in 20 years, since Pat Burrell to go first overall in the 1998 draft. #TANKFORBEER
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 San Diego is gonna laugh at your pitiful attempt.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ask-ba-seth-beer-go-no-1-2017/#rHL6ldlEyXduUK2P.97 What's the best website for mock draft + prospect information (I'm thinking something similar to nbadraft. net)
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ask-ba-seth-beer-go-no-1-2017/#rHL6ldlEyXduUK2P.97 What's the best website for mock draft + prospect information (I'm thinking something similar to nbadraft. net) I wouldn't bother with any of the pay sites. MLB pipeline is pretty good for both and stat scouting on FanGraphs is a good way to identify good prospects as well. Guys like Bird, Reed, Betts, etc. were stat scout darlings well before they ended up on top 100 lists. Pitching is the only thing where scouting is really worth a damn tbh.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I don't know why, but I find that hilarious...though I'm really sorry.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I wouldn't bother with any of the pay sites. MLB pipeline is pretty good for both and stat scouting on FanGraphs is a good way to identify good prospects as well. Guys like Bird, Reed, Betts, etc. were stat scout darlings well before they ended up on top 100 lists. Pitching is the only thing where scouting is really worth a damn tbh. I'm talking draft prospects. I can't get HS and college stats off fangraph can I?
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I'm talking draft prospects. I can't get HS and college stats off fangraph can I? You can get college stats from http://www.thebaseballcube.com. Great site.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/ask-ba-seth-beer-go-no-1-2017/#rHL6ldlEyXduUK2P.97 What's the best website for mock draft + prospect information (I'm thinking something similar to nbadraft. net) Mock drafts are virtually useless in baseball. They drastically change weekly (especially during the Summer Leagues). Seth Beer is dropping all the time now (I don't agree with it as he's not getting pitched to at all) and it's over a year away. He's playing 1B in college but he's really a corner OF. Batting just .265 against weak early season teams isn't going to endear him to teams in the spot for number 1 (18 of his 30 hits have been for extra bases) when it's supposed to be a very strong draft. I think he'll Anthony Rendon it and end up in the 5-10 range. I do believe he'll be the best fantasy prospect in that draft.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I'm talking draft prospects. I can't get HS and college stats off fangraph can I? Yeah I meant MLB pipeline for college/hs draftees and just stat scouting for everything else. Basically my whole point was that any site that charges money is a waste of money. Lol @ paying for Keith Law's prospect analysis.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I bought my gf a shirt with a pitcher of beer on it that said "relief pitcher." What a mistake, every friggin 50 year old beer belly going figured that was a green light to hit on her. One time...and I backed when I saw you were together. You just can't let it go though.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I'm talking draft prospects. I can't get HS and college stats off fangraph can I? You can usually get enough info off of baseball America, D1Baseball and Perfect Game's free stuff to get an informed opinion. My ranking by draft content I'd say Perfect Game, D1 and then Baseball America but BA is worth the subscription of the three because of what else you get.
tercet Verified Member Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/powerrankings/majors/
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 time to shut down sanchez and happ for the year. They need to be healthy for next season.
metafour Verified Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Beer won't even be in contention for a ~Top 2-3 pick by the time the draft actually happens. He's very good, but hardly as otherworldly as people are billing him. He'll be picked apart by draft day, and bat-only players who don't play a premium position don't tend to contend for the top pick. #TankForBeer? He's hitting .266 so far this season.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Beer won't even be in contention for a ~Top 2-3 pick by the time the draft actually happens. He's very good, but hardly as otherworldly as people are billing him. He'll be picked apart by draft day, and bat-only players who don't play a premium position don't tend to contend for the top pick. #TankForBeer? He's hitting .266 so far this season. This is so disingenuous. First off, no one should be judging anyone based on batting average. Secondly, that was an incredibly dishonest way to denigrate Beer. He has a 8:22 k:bb, an ISO around .330 and a 1.070 OPS. That is without taking into account the ridiculousness of judging a guy on less than 20 games in the first place. It's not his fault if no one wants to pitch to him.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Beer won't even be in contention for a ~Top 2-3 pick by the time the draft actually happens. He's very good, but hardly as otherworldly as people are billing him. He'll be picked apart by draft day, and bat-only players who don't play a premium position don't tend to contend for the top pick. #TankForBeer? He's hitting .266 so far this season.You just don't know that at this point. So much can and most certainly will happen between now and the 2018 draft, that it's almost useless to opine on currently. Word is that Beer can play the outfield fairly well, for what it's worth.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 This is so disingenuous. First off, no one should be judging anyone based on batting average. Secondly, that was an incredibly dishonest way to denigrate Beer. He has a 8:22 k:bb, an ISO around .330 and a 1.070 OPS. That is without taking into account the ridiculousness of judging a guy on less than 20 games in the first place. It's not his fault if no one wants to pitch to him. It's absolutely his fault. If he was s***** they'd be lining up to pitch to him.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Probably a better chance of us taking Brady Singer
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 http://i3.tigernet.com/players/baseball/2017/beer_seth_head.jpg Not hot. No thanks. I want a good looking ball player with some Latin flavour. Go find me the next Francisco Lindor.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 http://i3.tigernet.com/players/baseball/2017/beer_seth_head.jpg Not hot. No thanks. I want a good looking ball player with some Latin flavour. Go find me the next Francisco Lindor. That would've been Kevin Maitan
metafour Verified Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 This is so disingenuous. First off, no one should be judging anyone based on batting average. Secondly, that was an incredibly dishonest way to denigrate Beer. He has a 8:22 k:bb, an ISO around .330 and a 1.070 OPS. That is without taking into account the ridiculousness of judging a guy on less than 20 games in the first place. It's not his fault if no one wants to pitch to him. Its not disingenuous at all. His power is real; but Pro pitching isn't going to s*** their pants and pitch around him every at bat, so the over-inflated walk rate won't continue. How am I denigrating him? By not anointing him as the #1 overall pick LOL? The history of bat-only players going that high is virtually nonexistent, and I simply don't believe Beer to be a generational hitter or anything of that sort.
metafour Verified Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I brought up his batting average to simply point out that its beyond silly to pretend like he's already locked up #1 overall next season when he's only hitting .266 right now. I don't buy for a second that being pitched around is the full and only explanation to his batting average which is literally dead last among Clemson's starting lineup by over 10 points. Lots of guys have been pitched around and it didn't conclude in them hitting .266, and I'd like to assume that a #1 overall pick who plays no premium position is going to hit better than .266 in College. Obviously anything can happen by next year's draft, but I expect you'll find that Beer falls in the 3-5 range as opposed to being a lock for #1.
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I brought up his batting average to simply point out that its beyond silly to pretend like he's already locked up #1 overall next season when he's only hitting .266 right now. I don't buy for a second that being pitched around is the full and only explanation to his batting average which is literally dead last among Clemson's starting lineup by over 10 points. Lots of guys have been pitched around and it didn't conclude in them hitting .266, and I'd like to assume that a #1 overall pick who plays no premium position is going to hit better than .266 in College. Obviously anything can happen by next year's draft, but I expect you'll find that Beer falls in the 3-5 range as opposed to being a lock for #1. His BABIP is .209. Considering he hits the ball as hard as a rocket probably fair to assume his low batting average is due to unlucky batted ball data over 50 PA...
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I like how we are all putting huge stock into batting average of a guy who just rakes 50 AB into the season before his draft year.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I brought up his batting average to simply point out that its beyond silly to pretend like he's already locked up #1 overall next season when he's only hitting .266 right now. I don't buy for a second that being pitched around is the full and only explanation to his batting average which is literally dead last among Clemson's starting lineup by over 10 points. Lots of guys have been pitched around and it didn't conclude in them hitting .266, and I'd like to assume that a #1 overall pick who plays no premium position is going to hit better than .266 in College. Obviously anything can happen by next year's draft, but I expect you'll find that Beer falls in the 3-5 range as opposed to being a lock for #1. Lots of sites have him in that range. As of now he will not go 1...but could do to the time between now and the draft
metafour Verified Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I like how we are all putting huge stock into batting average of a guy who just rakes 50 AB into the season before his draft year. I'm not putting "huge stock" into anything. I like how we're anointing a guy #1 overall over a year before his draft date (#TankForBeer!) despite the fact that history has proven time and time again that these early-career superstars almost never maintain #1 status by the time they are actually draft eligible, and players of Beer's mold (all bat, spotty at best defensive outlook) have very little history of actually going #1 overall.
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I'm not putting "huge stock" into anything. I like how we're anointing a guy #1 overall over a year before his draft date (#TankForBeer!) despite the fact that history has proven time and time again that these early-career superstars almost never maintain #1 status by the time they are actually draft eligible, and players of Beer's mold (all bat, spotty at best defensive outlook) have very little history of actually going #1 overall. It's tercet lmao. I agree with you. No one is a lock to go #1 this early.
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 No one is arguing that. Boxy and friends are arguing your over analysis of his batting average.
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