Breaking: C. Correa recieves lifetime ban from baseball. Prison time.

[Gary]

Breaking: Correa recieves lifetime ban from baseball. Prison time.

"Breaking" = Arash Madani style!

[Maahfaace]

Yes it's true and seems fair to me. The Astros are the victims here.

 

I don't agree, the level of detrimental impact caused to the Astros is minimal at best. The fine and picks are justifiable as a penalty, as is the life-time ban for those involved, but I don't concur with them being awarded to the Astros at all. This would be similar to awarding the Colts the penalties levied against the Patriots for deflategate. Ridiculousness

[G-Snarls]

They should have made it their first pick in the 2017 draft and a 1st round in the 2018 draft...not actually giving up a top 50 pick is a bit of a joke.

 

Agree

 

Everyone thinks they signed Fowler knowing full well he would only cost their second round pick essentially

 

They should have lost their 1st round pick in 2018 though I don't think the Astros should have been handed it

 

Apparently 2M is the maximum allowable fine in MLB

 

The draft pick cost should have been more

[KingKat]

Agree

 

Everyone thinks they signed Fowler knowing full well he would only cost their second round pick essentially

 

They should have lost their 1st round pick in 2018 though I don't think the Astros should have been handed it

 

Apparently 2M is the maximum allowable fine in MLB

 

The draft pick cost should have been more

 

I'm really cloudy on what the compensation rules will be next year but IIRC it's still basically the same system with the only difference being that there are limits on how many times the same player can get a q.o. So assuming the rules are more or less the same, if you take away their first rounder next year, you're still giving them a free shot at a qualified free agent. Putting this off doesn't solve anything. The same loophole will be there every year. Might as well just get it over with.

[G-Snarls]

I'm really cloudy on what the compensation rules will be next year but IIRC it's still basically the same system with the only difference being that there are limits on how many times the same player can get a q.o. So assuming the rules are more or less the same, if you take away their first rounder next year, you're still giving them a free shot at a qualified free agent. Putting this off doesn't solve anything. The same loophole will be there every year. Might as well just get it over with.

 

You no longer ever lose first round picks, they're later round picks based on team payroll/revenue sharing status:

 

Clubs signing a Free Agent subject to compensation will no longer forfeit a first round selection, but will be subject to the following:

•A non-market disqualified Revenue Sharing Payee Club shall forfeit its third highest remaining selection in the next Rule 4 Draft.

•A Luxury Tax offender shall forfeit its second-highest and fifth-highest remaining selections in the next Rule 4 Draft and shall have its International Signing Bonus Pool (described below) reduced by $1,000,000 in the next full Signing Period.

•All other Clubs shall forfeit their second-highest remaining selection in the next Rule 4 Draft and shall have their International Signing Bonus Pool reduced by $500,000 in the next full Signing Bonus Period.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/11/30/breaking-down-mlbs-new-2017-21-collective-bargaining-agreement/2/#65c7e3e73d1f

[UWHabs]

Agree

 

Everyone thinks they signed Fowler knowing full well he would only cost their second round pick essentially

 

They should have lost their 1st round pick in 2018 though I don't think the Astros should have been handed it

 

Apparently 2M is the maximum allowable fine in MLB

 

The draft pick cost should have been more

 

I imagine part of the problem with removing a pick and not giving it to someone else is that they'd have the PA complain that there's 1-2M in slot bonus that's not going to players, so unless if they had some weird plan to re-allocate that space to all the other teams, they'd probably have the PA complain.

[KingKat]

You no longer ever lose first round picks, they're later round picks based on team payroll/revenue sharing status:

 

Clubs signing a Free Agent subject to compensation will no longer forfeit a first round selection, but will be subject to the following:

•A non-market disqualified Revenue Sharing Payee Club shall forfeit its third highest remaining selection in the next Rule 4 Draft.

•A Luxury Tax offender shall forfeit its second-highest and fifth-highest remaining selections in the next Rule 4 Draft and shall have its International Signing Bonus Pool (described below) reduced by $1,000,000 in the next full Signing Period.

•All other Clubs shall forfeit their second-highest remaining selection in the next Rule 4 Draft and shall have their International Signing Bonus Pool reduced by $500,000 in the next full Signing Bonus Period.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2016/11/30/breaking-down-mlbs-new-2017-21-collective-bargaining-agreement/2/#65c7e3e73d1f

 

Well in that case, yeah, they should have taken away their first rounder next year when it would have actually hurt if they were serious about punishing the team (perhaps they weren't).

[Brownie19]

I imagine part of the problem with removing a pick and not giving it to someone else is that they'd have the PA complain that there's 1-2M in slot bonus that's not going to players, so unless if they had some weird plan to re-allocate that space to all the other teams, they'd probably have the PA complain.

 

Or they could just tell the PA to f*** off.

[Spanky99]

I imagine part of the problem with removing a pick and not giving it to someone else is that they'd have the PA complain that there's 1-2M in slot bonus that's not going to players, so unless if they had some weird plan to re-allocate that space to all the other teams, they'd probably have the PA complain.

 

No man, all teams would just slide up a spot in the rounds effected. It's what they did with the Boston picks.